Marijuana.....

[Giovanni Casanova]

In a general allergy consultation practice in Arizona and western New Mexico, 129 patients were tested for immediate hypersensitivity skin test reactivity to marijuana pollen and tobacco leaf, as well as to a battery of other antigens. In all, 90 patients were diagnosed as allergic (atopic) and, of these, 63 (70 percent) were found to be skin test reactive to marijuana pollen and 18 (20 percent) to tobacco leaf. The incidence of skin test reactivity to marijuana was not significantly different for persons living at low, middle or high elevations throughout the Southwest. Marijuana sensitivity occurred in patients who were, in general, also sensitive to a variety of other airborne plant pollens. There was no close correlation, however, between sensitivity to marijuana pollen and sensitivity to pollens from elm, mulberry, hop and stinging nettle, which are botanically related to marijuana.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1010828

 

[Freddy1]

For some people pot is okay but for others who are prone to certain mental illneses I would stay away from it. I know someone who got pretty messed up in the head.

 

[penkitten]

her dad gets high and she comes home sick and needing to either go to the er or have a breathing treatment.

I bet he smokes cigarettes, too, right? Pot smokers typically shut the windows and doors to not leak out their illegal smells, but then they usually light up a cigarette, too. Your daughter might be suffering from second-hand tobacco smoke much more than the pot smoke. If pot were bad for people, it would have killed someone by now, but afaik that has never happened.

yes but they are suppose to be going outside to smoke cigerettes

 

[Randomer]

actually marijuana hasn't ever been specifically able to be traced to doing anything negative to your body, it's all psychological for real... the thing is though, most people smoke with joints or blunts/burning the **** in general and the carcinogenic smoke that gets into your lungs from that *is* actually bad for you but not the marijuana itself. There are various techniques to get high off marijuana like using vaporizers though that heat the weed to specific temperatures to release the active ingredients without actually burning up all the weed to release them and thus not harming your body with the smoke inhaled

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

actually marijuana hasn't ever been specifically able to be traced to doing anything negative to your body, it's all psychological for real...

Hmmm... should I listen to the National Institute of Health, or a random guy on the Internet?

This is a tough one, let me get back to you on that one.

:kick:

 

[Bvbidd]

lol you belive the government

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

lol you belive the government

I believe in science.

Show me one scientific study that indicates that marijuana, unlike almost every plant known to man, cannot prompt an allergic reaction. Try to find this on a website that isn't named:

• www.stoner-university.com
• www.wheremyweedat.net
• www.holycrapfingersisafunnyword.org
• www.bongs-r-us.us

Trees, weeds, grass, nuts, flowers, grains, fruits, vegetables, roots, etc. from pretty much every plant out there can cause an allergic reaction -- but NOT WEED, because weed is somehow f*cking magical.

"Duuuuude... (sharp inhale)... duuude, you just can't trust the government... (blows pot smoke everywhere)... they are like, out to... you know... get you. (tokes) It's all lies, man... everywhere you... (exhales)... like, everywhere you go, man... the government... sheeeeit, man. The government. You know what I'm... (inhale)... you know what I'm sayin, man? It's like... (blows pot smoke)... it's like, some kinda conspiracy or sumthin. (inhale) Hey, dude, are you all out of Doritos already?"

 

[TheNewGuy]

I believe in science.

Show me one scientific study that indicates that marijuana, unlike almost every plant known to man, cannot prompt an allergic reaction. Try to find this on a website that isn't named:

• www.stoner-university.com
• www.wheremyweedat.net
• www.holycrapfingersisafunnyword.org
• www.bongs-r-us.us

Trees, weeds, grass, nuts, flowers, grains, fruits, vegetables, roots, etc. from pretty much every plant out there can cause an allergic reaction -- but NOT WEED, because weed is somehow f*cking magical.

"Duuuuude... (sharp inhale)... duuude, you just can't trust the government... (blows pot smoke everywhere)... they are like, out to... you know... get you. (tokes) It's all lies, man... everywhere you... (exhales)... like, everywhere you go, man... the government... sheeeeit, man. The government. You know what I'm... (inhale)... you know what I'm sayin, man? It's like... (blows pot smoke)... it's like, some kinda conspiracy or sumthin. (inhale) Hey, dude, are you all out of Doritos already?"

I think marijuana could cause an allergic reaction in a small percent of the population. However there is no way to approve/disprove this, as the US Govt. has made it extremely extremely difficult to perform experiments involving marijuana.

However I think the poster you quote wasn't too clear on what he was talking about. The thing is, that marijuana really is nowhere near as bad as the government would like you to think. Thus, when Johnny D. Goode has his first toke, and lacks his research, he thinks that because the government lied about marijuana (which they actively do) they must lie about everything else (which isn't 100% true).

As far as sites go
http://www.norml.org/
http://drugpolicy.org/
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/
http://www.erowid.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands

Some interesting facts from the wikipedia page:
Some critics say that the legalization of soft drugs often leads to quicker consuming of hard drugs. Yet, the percentage of the population which ever consumed cocaine in the Netherlands is still lower than that of the United Kingdom, Spain and Italy.
Despite the legalization of soft drugs, use of cannabis in the Netherlands is not higher than most other countries in Western Europe

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

I think marijuana could cause an allergic reaction in a small percent of the population. However there is no way to approve/disprove this, as the US Govt. has made it extremely extremely difficult to perform experiments involving marijuana.

The NIH link above is a study which DID involve allergy experimentation with marijuana, and it DID find that marijuana caused an allergic reaction, and the percentage of the population in which the allergy was found was fairly significant. Plants cause allergic reactions in a lot of people, frankly. That's why in the spring when everything starts to bloom, tons of people have allergy problems and hayfever, etc.

However I think the poster you quote wasn't too clear on what he was talking about. The thing is, that marijuana really is nowhere near as bad as the government would like you to think.

I don't dispute what you're saying -- I dispute the idea that marijuana NEVER does anything harmful to the body, EVER. Some people are so zealous in their defense of marijuana that they will make that claim. I've heard plenty of people claim that marijuana is ALWAYS harmless and NEVER causes any health problems. Usually, they will claim this is because marijuana, unlike some other drugs, is often taken in its all-natural form. And I will be the first to say that means that marijuana is better for you than, say, mixing allergy medicine, tractor starter fluid, and drain de-clogger.

The fact is, however, that just about everything in nature has adverse effects on SOME people. No sense denying that regarding marijuana. It's like saying "Peanuts are found in nature -- they have never done anything negative to the human body" or "Milk never has adverse effects, it's all psychological" or "It's never been shown that dust mites have any negative effects on the body". Even if the only adverse effects are allergic reactions, it happens -- just because weed is "all natural" doesn't mean it has NO ADVERSE EFFECTS.

That in itself is not a reason to ban or outlaw marijuana. Many people are lactose intolerant; milk is still sold in stores. I'm allergic to walnuts/pecans/cashews/etc., but Planters is still making a killing. And even some very helpful drugs, such as pennicilin, can cause deadly side effects for some people.

But while allergies might not be a good reason to ban marijuana, it IS a good reason for people not to smoke weed around people who ARE allergic, especially their own kids. And those who claim that marijuana NEVER has harmful physical effects undermine their own credibility and the credibility of those who would like to see policy shifted regarding marijuana for medicinal and/or recreational use.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Duuuuude... (sharp inhale)... duuude, you just can't trust the government... (blows pot smoke everywhere).

lol

 

[TheNewGuy]

But while allergies might not be a good reason to ban marijuana, it IS a good reason for people not to smoke weed around people who ARE allergic, especially their own kids. And those who claim that marijuana NEVER has harmful physical effects undermine their own credibility and the credibility of those who would like to see policy shifted regarding marijuana for medicinal and/or recreational use.

I agree with you 100%.

 

[Adone]

Unfortunately, it gets a bit balanced out by slower reactions, inevitable hallucinations and all that.

It's pretty unusual for marijuana to cause hallucinations. And it's right, it makes you a safer driver, meaning that you usually are aware of your slower reactions, so you don't go as fast as usual. Obviously, if someone else makes a mistake or doesn't stop his car under the "stop" signal, you are much less likely to notice him and to stop your car. Thus, you are safer, although you are more prone to accidents.

 

[penkitten]

It's pretty unusual for marijuana to cause hallucinations. And it's right, it makes you a safer driver, meaning that you usually are aware of your slower reactions, so you don't go as fast as usual. Obviously, if someone else makes a mistake or doesn't stop his car under the "stop" signal, you are much less likely to notice him and to stop your car. Thus, you are safer, although you are more prone to accidents.

so its safer to drive 25 in a 45 rather than 65 in a 45?
how is that safer?

 

[KillaCam]

Thus, you are safer, although you are more prone to accidents.

I don't mean to nitpick, but read that sentence again. Safer, but more prone to accidents..technically isn't that less safe?

I see your points of slower speeds, but I would definately prefer no crashing at all.

Either way, don't smoke dope and drive. You're just asking to get fvcked up. Anyone who does it probably deserves it too.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The safer theory comes from a study commissioned by the UK government, which found that recent tokers were less likely to die in an accident due to tendencies to drive more slowly and be more concerned about making driving mistakes (paranoia). By comparison, there has also been research that identifies the effects of alcohol, which tend to make a driver more confident and correct mistakes more slowly.

 

[Scrumtulescence]

Marijuana isn't nearly as bad as the government would love (and has for the past century) for you to believe; and the general populace's perception of marijuana has been largely shaped by that. It all started with the criminalization as an excuse to lock up all the dirty mexicans who brought the stuff into the country and used it a lot. And the government has been flat-out lying about the effects of weed ever since, with propoganda films and tv commercials for about as long as weed as been illegal......it'll make you kill; it'll make you go insane; it'll destroy your life; etc etc. They're still trying to pull it off, although more subtlely with their little "this is what happens to your life when you smoke weed" bullshyt tv ads, some of them almost as ridiculous as the original Reefer Madness. They portray the stuff as if it's freakin heroin, when in reality alcohol is just as bad, if not worse than weed. Just don't get too hooked on the stuff.

The government just can't let go of this futile, wasteful, asinine "war on drugs", and it's getting pretty pathetic.

And by the way, anyone who lists hallucinations as one of the effects of marijuana obviously doesn't have experience with the drug.

 

[penkitten]

Marijuana isn't nearly as bad as the government would love (and has for the past century) for you to believe; and the general populace's perception of marijuana has been largely shaped by that. It all started with the criminalization as an excuse to lock up all the dirty mexicans who brought the stuff into the country and used it a lot. And the government has been flat-out lying about the effects of weed ever since, with propoganda films and tv commercials for about as long as weed as been illegal......it'll make you kill; it'll make you go insane; it'll destroy your life; etc etc. They're still trying to pull it off, although more subtlely with their little "this is what happens to your life when you smoke weed" bullshyt tv ads, some of them almost as ridiculous as the original Reefer Madness. They portray the stuff as if it's freakin heroin, when in reality alcohol is just as bad, if not worse than weed. Just don't get too hooked on the stuff.

The government just can't let go of this futile, wasteful, asinine "war on drugs", and it's getting pretty pathetic.

And by the way, anyone who lists hallucinations as one of the effects of marijuana obviously doesn't have experience with the drug.

i understand what you are trying to say. sure our government doesnt want pot on the streets because they arent making any money off of it and they want to stop it, but dont care what pain pills peoples doctors give them. the war on drugs in that sense is war on illegal drugs.
i can understand where you are going with this .
not everyone that does it once in a while is addicted and there are some smart people who would never risk their lives by getting behind a wheel of a car when they are high.

however, people do it in their homes everyday. it costs alot of money when they are addicted to it, and some people stop paying their bills.( like my ex not paying his child support yet he still affords to get high) they are submitting their children to the second hand pot smoke ( i dont want my kids around it or smelling or seeing it. they are sent to their rooms but they still smell it and there they sit while the adults are all high. my daughter goes into asthma attacks and i believe her to be allergic to it just as she is to pine and cedar trees. i do believe this is a big health risk.)
what do you think?

 

[Adone]

Marijuana isn't nearly as bad as the government would love (and has for the past century) for you to believe; and the general populace's perception of marijuana has been largely shaped by that. It all started with the criminalization as an excuse to lock up all the dirty mexicans who brought the stuff into the country and used it a lot. And the government has been flat-out lying about the effects of weed ever since, with propoganda films and tv commercials for about as long as weed as been illegal......it'll make you kill; it'll make you go insane; it'll destroy your life; etc etc. They're still trying to pull it off, although more subtlely with their little "this is what happens to your life when you smoke weed" bullshyt tv ads, some of them almost as ridiculous as the original Reefer Madness. They portray the stuff as if it's freakin heroin, when in reality alcohol is just as bad, if not worse than weed. Just don't get too hooked on the stuff.

The government just can't let go of this futile, wasteful, asinine "war on drugs", and it's getting pretty pathetic.

And by the way, anyone who lists hallucinations as one of the effects of marijuana obviously doesn't have experience with the drug.

I agree with your post, but I want to clarify the last point. When I said that it's pretty unusual for marijuana to cause hallucinations, I didn't mean it's impossible, as you seem to think. I personally experience hallucinations, but I had to smoke tons WITHOUT drinking. Most people mix alcohol and marijuana and that prevents them from smoking so much to have hallucinations, because they usually end up throwing up earlier. The first and only time I smoked pot without drinking anything else but beer, I managed to smoke so much that I had hallucinations, but I can guarantee that it's not something you want to experience. It was like a bad trip on acid: it started out as paranoia and I ended up seeing things changing form and color; the whole world was trembling and I saw bursts of light. The only different thing than acid is that you recognize that you are just tripping: when you have a bad trip with acid, you think it's real. When you trip with marijuana, you understand what's happening to you, yet you are scared of everything (the paranoia started as I was watching a horror movie with my buddies, which didn't happen at all). This happened 2 months ago and I'm still scared about that experience (tonight I dreamt I was tripping again like that time), so much that I haven't been smoking pot ever since (I used to smoke that anytime I had the possibility to do it for free).

Beside that, I don't think there are any other serious consequences. A friend of mine used to smoke pot 4-5 times a day EVERYDAY and ALWAYS before doing his homework, when he was 15-16. Guess what? He had one of the highest GPAs of his class (although he basically never opened a school book) and was one of the best football players in town and lifted too.