Man's Best Friend Isn't a Dog, It's Competition Anxiety

[DJDanny]

And I would add that she will most likely act like a 'high value woman' as long as you continue to act ( and live) like a high value man. That is assuming that you have chosen a traditional quality woman from a stable upbringing. Women from loonie familes make loonie wives.

Ain't that the truth, had to learn that one the hard way. Should've seen the shock on my face when she told me that the birth control must not have worked about a year into the relationship. But then again her mom was a controlling biatch with OCD who had 2 kids with 2 different fathers by the times she was 21 and the girls biological dad didn't acknowledge her, she never did get to meet him. Alot of warning signs I missed.

 

[guru1000]

I've even dated girls like this, one such girl got into my (male) friends bed (house share years ago) with just her underwear on to get a rise out of me

Yo JONWON, long time brother.

I hope this girl received the boot in 2.3 seconds out of your current rotation. Certainly non exclusive candidates need to show the proper amount of respect to retain their positions in the harem.

She doesn't merit a response, just the boot.

 

[DJDanny]

So you are saying that the more women i surround myself with...the more "other" women will want me.

Pure psychology...Its such a Con Game...lol!

So basically, surround yourself with female friends,...the hotter the better...throw parties, be seen with hot women where-ever you go...and within no time, you'll be banging lots of 10's.

So the trick is...how do you surround yourself with lots of Hot Females...

create a emotional connection and then LJBF them, it's been said in every male-female friendship, one of them has to be attracted to the other, you just need to make sure they are that one, not you. Your relationships with female friends will rarely last as long as the guys you've known since grade school.

 

[Mr. Me]

"In romantic relationships it can also be the fact that your value is through the roof, that your chick would be stupid to do anything to jeopardize her standing with you." makes logical sense, but it's not reality. Women do f@ck around on high value men. It's not one's value that keeps a woman true.

I don't think it's competition anxiety you're seeing at work. I thibk what you're seeing is a dysfunctional couple's dynamics in action.

He keeps his ex-GF around.
His current GF mouths off to him.
He acts smart assy to her.
She says something vulgar back.

You say it's just a joke, the way your group is, but I say, minimize it, discount it and call it whatever you want, it's still indicative of their dynamics. That kind of behavior isn't going to keep a guy around, not a reasonably emotionally sane guy, so that's not competition anxiety at work.

For all you know, this was her payback to him for some crap he may have pulled the night before behind closed doors, ya know?

 

[jonwon]

Yo JONWON, long time brother.

I hope this girl received the boot in 2.3 seconds out of your current rotation. Certainly non exclusive candidates need to show the proper amount of respect to retain their positions in the harem.

She doesn't merit a response, just the boot.

I hear you, and congrats on the marriage thing - Normally I don't congrats on marriage, but a clued up guy, no problem - she must be real catch - Lucky bitc*.

Anyway, yes she was just a plate - but even if she wasn't that act alone would have relegated her to plate statues - Stupid actions of women, I shake my head - I know she was trying to play me, it was nothing to do with the guy - it was all to get a response out of me, because rather frankly she did not know where she stood and was treated has fuc* material from day one - never changed, never gave her incentive to think otherwise - so she would do little things of this nature to 'test' my interest in her - Cute but what she did not know is, these little tests kept - re-enforcing that she is best kept has a plate. So yes cute and like I said boring and was actually counter-productive on her part - but communicating that to her, would have almost showed her that I was interested or effected, so I found it simply best to give them that look like you'd toss a kid who's just stuck it's hand in some cra*.

See competition Anxiety can work well with on women, but me personally - It would actually make me lose interest in a women, difference between men and women - women just come across has narcistic attention seekers, probably due to the fact that any semi-attractive women can get attention from simps rather easier - where has on the other hand a desirable male, is seen has a catch - a blip on the females radar since she has probably not many that have high value amongst other girls for them to actively peruse you, even if you communicate you have a GF.


In response to the thread.

I have found though that actively trying to make your GF jealous can back-fire, it has to be done right - done in a manner where you’re not encouraging the other girl - i.e 'trying to get your GF jealous' - its best for the other girl to like you because of you simply being awesome in her presence - Then the fault is not yours, your simply being your awesome-self and a women simply wants a piece, this type of situation is probably the most ideal to generate that feeling of loss, competition, attention and anxiety from your women.

Hence why when I cheat I don’t advertise it, I don’t brag about it - just my actions round said girl can probably be orchestrated that 'he has options' and that is usually enough to generate what this thread is talking about.

Simply by having plates, you more or less will carry the 'I have options' persona around anyway without realizing - Your actions will be none AFC - judgemental - Granted you don't need plates to be like this, but sometimes it's an internal knowledge that she is replacable easily - i.e abundance that can imo generate in your women a sense of competetion anxiety, every time you step out of your door - or especcially when you go out with the lads.

I think if you have women who objects to you doing something social, that could have the potential to meet other women - even in a small manner is a good opportunity to get on with what this thread discusses - I.e let her imagination fill in the gaps and don't reassure her, instead bask in it, let her wind herself up - let her be thinking about you and never chump out in reassuring her - since after all you’re not doing anything wrong it's just her mind twisted by your desirability that is telling her, she has competition even if there is none and it's all in her head - let her think it - as long as she does not get weird -. More often than not, she is probably thinking of ways to 'keep' you from straying, rather than cutting up your pillows because you did not squash her insecurities.

 

[STR8UP]

Yo JONWON, long time brother.

I hope this girl received the boot in 2.3 seconds out of your current rotation. Certainly non exclusive candidates need to show the proper amount of respect to retain their positions in the harem.

She doesn't merit a response, just the boot.

This type of situation shows the difference between our attitudes about women. Unless you have the "marriage as a goal mentality", something like this in and of itself shouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker. Status changer? Yes. Capital offense? No. She has simply displayed her true colors and now she is relegated to fukk toy status.

I agree that it is disrespectful for a woman to do jump in another guy's bed in her underwear in front of you (or not in front of you for that matter).

But there is something to be said for the guy who can handle this sort of sh!t test AND still keep the chick in rotation. It just goes to show how he is able to keep proper perspective, he doesn't elevate women to the point where they have the power to pull his strings, and it throws the power dynamic FIRMLY into his court.

A lot of guys would look at this and think "OMG....you basically just GAVE her permission to cheat!". I disagree. You basically told her non-verbally that her pu$$y holds no power over you. If anything it will increase her respect for you and make her less likely to cheat.

 

[jonwon]

This type of situation shows the difference between our attitudes about women. Unless you have the "marriage as a goal mentality", something like this in and of itself shouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker. Status changer? Yes. Capital offense? No. She has simply displayed her true colors and now she is relegated to fukk toy status.

I agree that it is disrespectful for a woman to do jump in another guy's bed in her underwear in front of you (or not in front of you for that matter).

But there is something to be said for the guy who can handle this sort of sh!t test AND still keep the chick in rotation. It just goes to show how he is able to keep proper perspective, he doesn't elevate women to the point where they have the power to pull his strings, and it throws the power dynamic FIRMLY into his court.

A lot of guys would look at this and think "OMG....you basically just GAVE her permission to cheat!". I disagree. You basically told her non-verbally that her pu$$y holds no power over you. If anything it will increase her respect for you and make her less likely to cheat.

Exactly, its about viewing women has either property to control, or allowing them to hang themselves so there replacable -

I had suspected that she did this from a hot tip from a dating forum - not sure where or which one, but on occassion she would do things like this - That seemed to the product of 'bad dating advice book 101' -

I used to get bent out of shape about these things (back in the day and learned these lessons the hard way), now it simply lowers my interest in the girl and its more or less - Next, type attitude.

I find it the best way.

And yes she was on the scene for quite a while, added the guy to face-book told me about it, I encouraged it and said 'he'd make a good BF for you, actually' - then did not mention it again. She actually after that statement said "I don't see him that way" - I was being honest with her when I said it, I could not have given a shi( if they got it on at all, at the time I had 3 other plates on the go and each one better then her - that sort of cra* just lower's there value in my eyes and puts the other plates on a higher level, even so, if no plates where on the scene I'd rather be single then get sucked into that drama past simply fuc*ing her, but she gave a good BJ at the end of the day.

Yes she was eager to please me that night, go figure - Other so-called dating sites or dating advice from mainsteam would have reccommended the total opposite, told me to go buy her some flowers or some nonesense - playing right into her hands and lowering my value in the process, instead she lowered her's by doing something rather juvenile - which incidently many a western women seem to do and many a man fall for - A lesser man would have been pis*ed, controlling, jealous and arguing with the friend - Exactly what she was after to prove I 'liked' her - did I mention Narcissistic attention seekers?

 

[jonwon]

It sounds like, as usual, the key is to speak softly (or not at all) but carry a big stick.

Not giving a damn is key in attracting women; it's just as important in retaining them and keeping them in line.

Indeed, but I also have another opinion about this too 'yeh I know here he goes again'

The girl I'm currently dating would never dream of doing such a thing, it would actually go against everything she believes in.

So it's not a question of having to watch what they do and correct them for me, it's more or less finding the girl with the qualities to start off with, but that is easier said than done.

I was seeing the girl I am seeing now, whilst the other plate was on the scene - for every bad thing one of the other plates do - it just makes the others seem that much better, since when you are confronted with this stuff - and you spend an evening with one of the others you just know they would never ever do something similar by their actions and attitude.

For example I was also seeing a young very attractive girl, she was what most men would desire - but she never cooked, was rather how can I say self focused, nice girl, but not very 'giving' - She was alot better looking then the girl I am seeing now, but i could not help to think of the girl I am seeing now, when I met up with the more attractive girl, simply because the girl I am seeing would really make that much more of an effort on pritty much everything.

Plate spinning, there really can be nothing more powerful when looking for a women to date exclusively (not that I am exclusive, but I’m only seeing the one girl currently and she does pretty much anything and everything for me).

 

[Mr. Me]

>> I agree that it is disrespectful for a woman to do jump in another guy's bed in her underwear in front of you (or not in front of you for that matter)...

A lot of guys would look at this and think "OMG....you basically just GAVE her permission to cheat!". I disagree. You basically told her non-verbally that her pu$$y holds no power over you.>>

... AND that you'll stick around for even more bad behavior from her, but what that signals to the female mind is that the reason it doesn't bother you to be disrespected is not because you're so in charge of yourself so as not to throw a tantrum, but because you don't know better then to have some self-respect and walk. Expect even more cat & mouse type antics trying to pull your strings from those women when you send that kind of signal out.

>> now it simply lowers my interest in the girl and its more or less - Next, type attitude.>>

In continuing my thought: we surround ourselves with people that either are positive or negative for us, and where one man accepts or tolerrates bad behavior, another doesn't. Ask yourselves: why do I accept or tolerate bad behavior? To have her to f@ck? Then you're willing to sell yourself for a ride. Is it, deep down, about wanting to maintain popularity or wishing to appear cool? Or a fear of rejection, or becoming persona non-grata or a fear of loneliness or something? It's always something, but it's not about the bravado.

>> it just makes the others seem that much better, since when you are confronted with this stuff >>

I suspect that it's not that she seems better, but what it really is, is that you're more attracted to better behaved females; it's way more appealing to you and therefore, given that you're also physically attracted to her, so is she. Or put another way, you're attracted to gold, not turds, plain and simple; it's not that turds make gold seem better.

 

[guru1000]

This type of situation shows the difference between our attitudes about women. Unless you have the "marriage as a goal mentality", something like this in and of itself shouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker. Status changer? Yes. Capital offense? No. She has simply displayed her true colors and now she is relegated to fukk toy status.

I agree that it is disrespectful for a woman to do jump in another guy's bed in her underwear in front of you (or not in front of you for that matter).

But there is something to be said for the guy who can handle this sort of sh!t test AND still keep the chick in rotation. It just goes to show how he is able to keep proper perspective, he doesn't elevate women to the point where they have the power to pull his strings, and it throws the power dynamic FIRMLY into his court.

Or it basically means this non exclusive plate can sh** on you, and you will justify it. Where does the disrespect end and when do you draw the line?

You basically told her non-verbally that her pu$$y holds no power over you. If anything it will increase her respect for you and make her less likely to cheat.

After showing her cards, do you care what she thinks of you. At this point do you want her respect?

Less likely to cheat

No comment on this one.

Wouldn't it be easier to walk away without a word.

 

[STR8UP]

>> I agree that it is disrespectful for a woman to do jump in another guy's bed in her underwear in front of you (or not in front of you for that matter)...

A lot of guys would look at this and think "OMG....you basically just GAVE her permission to cheat!". I disagree. You basically told her non-verbally that her pu$$y holds no power over you.>>

... AND that you'll stick around for even more bad behavior from her, but what that signals to the female mind is that the reason it doesn't bother you to be disrespected is not because you're so in charge of yourself so as not to throw a tantrum, but because you don't know better then to have some self-respect and walk. Expect even more cat & mouse type antics trying to pull your strings from those women when you send that kind of signal out.

That's like saying "If you ignore the kid when he's crying to get attention he will think it is ok to cry and continue to do so".

A chick doesn't do this sort of thing because she WANTS to do it, she is trying to rile you up.

Two choices- do as guru said and DTB, or ignore her pitiful plea for attention/sh!t test and demote her. Calling a chick out for this type of behavior is not an option.

Or it basically means this non exclusive plate can sh** on you, and you will justify it. Where does the disrespect end and when do you draw the line?

You draw the line when she becomes more trouble than she is worth.

Like I said, if marriage was my goal (which it is not) then I would dump her and not look back.

 

[Luthor Rex]

That's like saying "If you ignore the kid when he's crying to get attention he will think it is ok to cry and continue to do so".

My father took an interesting approach for me. When I was young and tried throwing a temper tantrum, I was spanked. I never tried that again.

Too bad we can't spank women...

 

[jophil28]

That is exactly what happens when you keep a disrespectful woman around for a " FB ".
Keeping a woman around who is acting out does not portray you are cool and "unfazed" to her. It portrays you as weak, and willing to tolerate all manner of bad behavior in a tradeoff for her puzzy. She is still in charge and YOU are not in spite of what you want to believe. YOu might see yourself as "in control" and undaunted by her cr*p but she thinks differently.

The other less experienced posters who are willing to "demote" her fail to realise that a woman believes that her pvssy is GOLD, and that if you stay around then you are still under her golden spell.

SO, as Mr ME said, expect MORE mind fvcking and more cat and mouse games from her.

 

[Jeffst1980]

But there is something to be said for the guy who can handle this sort of sh!t test AND still keep the chick in rotation. It just goes to show how he is able to keep proper perspective, he doesn't elevate women to the point where they have the power to pull his strings, and it throws the power dynamic FIRMLY into his court.

A lot of guys would look at this and think "OMG....you basically just GAVE her permission to cheat!". I disagree. You basically told her non-verbally that her pu$$y holds no power over you. If anything it will increase her respect for you and make her less likely to cheat.

I think this contradicts a key point you made earlier, though--that a woman tends to use sex as a leveraging point. And for good reason--the majority of a woman's social value comes from her ability to create sexual desire.

When you ignore/ tolerate s#itty behavior and then sleep with her, even as an F-buddy, it's still giving her validation. If you REALLY want to show her that she has no worth to you, you shouldn't even touch her.

If you've ever rejected a woman's sexual advances, you will KNOW what an ego-wrecker that is for women. It is essentially the biggest insult she can receive, essentially saying that she "failed" as a woman.

The idea that "demoting" a girl to an F-buddy, or F-toy, or whatever is punishment makes sense to us, but it's not much of a punishment for them. Really, it just gives them their required dose of drama for the day.

The only reason to keep hooking up with a disrespectful woman is because it's EASY. Nothing wrong with that if you're not looking for commitment, but let's not try to spin it as a DHV.

 

[iqqi]

It took me a really long time to understand the title of this thread.

Now that I get the point of the title... dude, that is just sad.

I don't even see how the two can compare. You just compared an unconditional friendship type relationship, with your desire to be in control or dominate a woman's desires. Do you even see this? It's like it takes the desperation to control and be in control of relationships to a whole other level.

I have to give romangod reps in this thread, for saying the only thing that makes sense in it.

EDIT: And damn, Str8up, how the hell do you have time to be making all these threads!? I come on here and right at the top a whole new slew of hypothetical ponderings. Even the "legends" in the earlier days took breaks to fully think out what they were going to present. It's like any negative thought process you have gets a whole new philosiphy book of a thread. I know it seems like I am just ****ing with you, but really think about.

 

[STR8UP]

You guys feel the need to "punish" women for their actions. WHY??????

My god do you have nothing better to do? Does a chick have that much control over your emotions?

That's whats separates me and jonwon and some of the others from the "revenge" crew. I don't give a flying FUKK whether or not she thinks her pu$$y is made of gold. I'm not "under her spell". I'm doing as I damn well please and if that means busting a nut in her mouth after she wants to try and fail at a power play then it doesn't make me "weak".

You guys are being reactive to a chick who is demonstrating low value. jonwon laughing off her blatant sh!t test is being NON-reactive and going about his day AS IT SUITS HIM.

If my g/f of three years whom I have introduced to my family pulls something like that she's oout the door. A "plate", (which is what we are talking about here) gets put in the "cvmdumster" category and relegated to second or third string.

You guys show 'em who is boss. I'm sure it will teach them a very valuable lesson and make you feel better about yourself to boot.

EDIT: And damn, Str8up, how the hell do you have time to be making all these threads!?

If I don't post, how will you continue to eStalk me?

Stop complaining.

 

[Luthor Rex]

It took me a really long time to understand the title of this thread.

Now that I get the point of the title... dude, that is just sad.

Ah... the forum would not be complete without STR8UP's rejected FB showing up.

Let the flame war commence!

Edit:

Originally Posted by iqqi
EDIT: And damn, Str8up, how the hell do you have time to be making all these threads!?

If I don't post, how will you continue to eStalk me?

Stop complaining.

Oh STR8UP beat me to it!

 

[iqqi]

Ah... the forum would not be complete without STR8UP's rejected FB showing up.

um... so now I am a rejected FB of STR8UP's? :crackup: :crazy:

That is actually kind of gross. He really isn't my type.

You guys need to get off the internet and go live some life. Or at least address what I said and stick to the point. It's like the minute I make one, you guys go off on personal insults... that are delusional! Come on, have some maturity, this is the mature man's forum.

 

[Luthor Rex]

um... so now I am a rejected FB of STR8UP's? :crackup: :crazy:

That is actually kind of gross. He really isn't my type.

You guys need to get off the internet and go live some life. Or at least address what I said and stick to the point. It's like the minute I make one, you guys go off on personal insults... that are delusional! Come on, have some maturity, this is the mature man's forum.

Yeah, he made a thread all about it.

You're a woman, you're not even supposed to be here.

 

[jophil28]

That's whats separates me and jonwon and some of the others from the "revenge" crew. I don't give a flying FUKK whether or not she thinks her pu$$y is made of gold. I'm not "under her spell". I'm doing as I damn well please and if that means busting a nut in her mouth after she wants to try and fail at a power play then it doesn't make me "weak".

YOu still don't get it do you. IF you continue to return to have a sexual relationship with a woman who disrespects you like that, then she has not failed ,YOU have . She and her pvssy have won and they still control your choice to continue to associate with her in spite of her mindfvcking you. In other worsd, pvssy trumps self respect.

This is not DJ behavior, it is just desperation masquerading as being "cool".

However, go ahead and do whatever 'feels' right . You are indeed entitled to believe whatever distortion suits your personal needs..