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Solomon said:
So besides talking about it whats the solution to address this problem?
Good question. One possible solution doesn't require any serious activist commitment, but merely awareness of the quantifiable side of the problems, the willingness to speak out in a measured, thoughtful way when the excesses of feminized culture present in our personal lives, and resolving to vote with one's feet and mouth when confronted with freedom stealing cultural realities, especially when dealing with young people. TALK TO YOUNG PEOPLE about such, they have only heard one side of things for the most part. Mostly pass the word along and refuse to participate in social lies with discriminatory $$ costs attached.

1. We have a vast diploma mill in Western feminized cultures pouring out a disproportionate % of very loud and mouthy "undereducated and unskilled social scientists" bred for "govsocial work," mostly female, who have been thoroughly brainwashed into quasi socialism as the "enlightened" form of government and not surprisingly, the form of government that represents "their" issues. In their narrow, ignorant, inaccurate academic view, govt and the academy are responsible for all the good in society, whereas commerce and market transactions are responsible for all the evil. Well of course, commerce is a foreign beast to them, and the only competition they want is to compete to get the big gun of govt aimed your way while they pick your pockets. They are and have been conducting a massive agitprop campaign for nearly a century now in the name of progressivism to that effect that has gone largely unquestioned and unanswered. This is particularly true more recently, 50 years or so, of feminism and women's studies, illegitimate doctrines based on historical distortions and lies with no foundation in real history which rely on continued acceptance of foundational lies to forward discrimination in achieving expensive political goals in the now.

The reality is that commerce and commercial interests, the resulting choices and technology that result for all, are responsible for most of the freedom and good developments in the world historically, and govt and academics are at best symbiotic hangers on, and at worst very expensive parasites. Tell this truth at every opportunity. Speak out against govt slanted views of history. How much revisionist pandering and hagiography do we have about Abraham Lincoln or FDR, even George Washington? Mountains. How much do we know about the person who invented the refrigerator and the financiers who took risk in competing and mass marketing it? Nada. The commercial airlines? Computers and the VC that made that all possible? Med tech? Etc., etc.? Nada.

Neat trick that we allow the framing of those who have really done good things for the world by innovating and taking risks as "greedy robber barons" or "1%ers" by the diploma mill govt elite and parasitic press. They write all the textbooks and set the curriculum and programming, so is it any wonder they overemphasize their roles and grant-bestowing govt in such while demonizing the productive to warrant theft from them/us? Govt is the dream career path of many academics and the press, is it any wonder they lie to us all? Such a basic realization, but essentially hidden today.

So the first step is acknowledging the "real" world as opposed to the "textbook" world. Understand the commerce-robbing dollar costs involved when feminists circumvent intended social spending towards gender discriminatory goals and the massive, irretrievable sunk costs of govt growth generally. Understand that govt, academics and the press create little of benefit, especially in comparison to what they cost us. All they really do is retard commercial progress. Without them, we might be on Mars today and benefit from 30 more years of healthy life. Their parasitic sucking steals life from all and retards our commercial progress.

Understand the dollar costs and expensive graft of "War on" type thinking issuing from government and feminists. "War on drugs," "war on meth," "war on DUIs," "war on poverty," "war on illiteracy," "war on women," "war on breast cancer," "war on sexism in media," "war on bullying," "war on crime," even "war on terrorism," etc., all start with seemingly worthy social goals bolstered by bad, slanted stats and biased "studies" exaggerating the problem seeking to create new gender discriminatory funds diversion and spending and solidify the sheeple voting bloc as feeling "righteous" and "doing something." Note that all these faux wars and their social costs affect men and especially politically powerless, minority men disproportionately in the same measure that they benefit women and women's interests. Some have become sacred cows to the point that even questioning them brands one as "part of the problem," as anyone who has ever questioned any feminist tenet finds out when called a "misogynist" in response.

This is all part of a gigantic lie orchestrated and repeated ad nausea to steal rights from citizens and fund jobs for all those diploma mill social workers. Most of this "war on" type thinking preys on the same type of female voting bloc that sends "feelgood" checks to all those abused animal ASPCA ads on television. Without that callow female voting bloc, none of it could exist because sadly, male voters, with all our foibles, aren't as easily fooled by such. Women should vote in a moral society, but fact is, in comparison to most men, they generally vote like self-interested children, not citizens seeking the greater good in their communities. Part of the solution depends on more women growing up and coming to the adult citizenship table as opposed to the single issue voter "mememe" table. That's out of our control as men, but whatever we do, don't waste votes on the enemy's pet projects and politicians, left, right GOP or Democrat. When they start making "I do all these things for women" noises, that's the moment we should vote elsewhere. We need to cast out politicians who kowtow to gender specific vote mongering.

2. Become at least a little politically aware locally. When your local congressman of any party has a public event, go. If they start up with all the pork projects and govjobs they are bringing to the area, SPEAK OUT. Tell them you for one don't want that kind of government, and will remember such at election time. They already have a roomful of sycophantic women drooling over all the fempork and good jobs for women in the room. Is it any wonder they do as they do with no opposition spoken or present? We let it happen to us by silence.

3. Turn off branded media outlets like ABC that give the Sarkeesians of the world an instant podium to spout any old lies she chooses to spout, even if that entails your favorite shows or sports. She is a NOBODY with no life accomplishments, credentials, meaningful publications, yet because she is spouting a govmedia feminized compliant message, she gets a national voice? This should enrage you enough to send a measured response to ABC telling them exactly why you won't be watching any of their programming going forward. At the very least, if you see such a slanted article, turn off the source and tell others about it identifying ABC as the source of it.

4. When you hear a stat like "there are 700,000 hungry children in this state" or other bogus PSAs and billboards, call BS. Tell everyone you see that day what you heard/saw and how absurd it is. Tell everyone you see the real purpose of it and not to be fooled. If it sinks in with even one other person, you have accomplished something. Making a post on the net, not as long as this one of course, spreads the word too.

5. Learn a little about the law. Know what the "Lilly Ledbetter Act" is, why it is discriminatory and costly. Know why DUI laws are so strict in an environment where 85% of women either don't drink at all or little, lots are driven around by men most of their lives, and have been waging a puritanical prohibition movement in this country for 100 years. Understand how those laws fuel a whole dependent social work industry of mostly female employees. Know about legal moves afoot to redefine criminal burdens of proof in favor of crimes affecting women, yet no attention at all is given to prison rape. Know the truth behind feminists' bogus claims of continued workplace disparities and harrassment. Just knowing and telling helps a little.

It doesn't require a jihad for individual men, just a bit of extra attention and a minor time investment. They spend huge amounts of time stealing rights and $$ from us all, isn't even a meager response worth our time?
 
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dasein said:
Good question. One possible solution doesn't require any serious activist commitment, but merely awareness of the quantifiable side of the problems, the willingness to speak out in a measured, thoughtful way when the excesses of feminized culture present in our personal lives, and resolving to vote with one's feet and mouth when confronted with freedom stealing cultural realities, especially when dealing with young people. TALK TO YOUNG PEOPLE about such, they have only heard one side of things for the most part. Mostly pass the word along and refuse to participate in social lies with discriminatory $$ costs attached.

1. We have a vast diploma mill in Western feminized cultures pouring out a disproportionate % of very loud and mouthy "undereducated and unskilled social scientists" bred for "govsocial work," mostly female, who have been thoroughly brainwashed into quasi socialism as the "enlightened" form of government and not surprisingly, the form of government that represents "their" issues. In their narrow, ignorant, inaccurate academic view, govt and the academy are responsible for all the good in society, whereas commerce and market transactions are responsible for all the evil. Well of course, commerce is a foreign beast to them, and the only competition they want is to compete to get the big gun of govt aimed your way while they pick your pockets. They are and have been conducting a massive agitprop campaign for nearly a century now in the name of progressivism to that effect that has gone largely unquestioned and unanswered. This is particularly true more recently, 50 years or so, of feminism and women's studies, illegitimate doctrines based on historical distortions and lies with no foundation in real history which rely on continued acceptance of foundational lies to forward discrimination in achieving expensive political goals in the now.

The reality is that commerce and commercial interests, the resulting choices and technology that result for all, are responsible for most of the freedom and good developments in the world historically, and govt and academics are at best symbiotic hangers on, and at worst very expensive parasites. Tell this truth at every opportunity. Speak out against govt slanted views of history. How much revisionist pandering and hagiography do we have about Abraham Lincoln or FDR, even George Washington? Mountains. How much do we know about the person who invented the refrigerator and the financiers who took risk in competing and mass marketing it? Nada. The commercial airlines? Computers and the VC that made that all possible? Med tech? Etc., etc.? Nada.

Neat trick that we allow the framing of those who have really done good things for the world by innovating and taking risks as "greedy robber barons" or "1%ers" by the diploma mill govt elite and parasitic press. They write all the textbooks and set the curriculum and programming, so is it any wonder they overemphasize their roles and grant-bestowing govt in such while demonizing the productive to warrant theft from them/us? Govt is the dream career path of many academics and the press, is it any wonder they lie to us all? Such a basic realization, but essentially hidden today.

So the first step is acknowledging the "real" world as opposed to the "textbook" world. Understand the commerce-robbing dollar costs involved when feminists circumvent intended social spending towards gender discriminatory goals and the massive, irretrievable sunk costs of govt growth generally. Understand that govt, academics and the press create little of benefit, especially in comparison to what they cost us. All they really do is retard commercial progress. Without them, we might be on Mars today and benefit from 30 more years of healthy life. Their parasitic sucking steals life from all and retards our commercial progress.

Understand the dollar costs and expensive graft of "War on" type thinking issuing from government and feminists. "War on drugs," "war on meth," "war on DUIs," "war on poverty," "war on illiteracy," "war on women," "war on breast cancer," "war on sexism in media," "war on bullying," "war on crime," even "war on terrorism," etc., all start with seemingly worthy social goals bolstered by bad, slanted stats and biased "studies" exaggerating the problem seeking to create new gender discriminatory funds diversion and spending and solidify the sheeple voting bloc as feeling "righteous" and "doing something." Note that all these faux wars and their social costs affect men and especially politically powerless, minority men disproportionately in the same measure that they benefit women and women's interests. Some have become sacred cows to the point that even questioning them brands one as "part of the problem," as anyone who has ever questioned any feminist tenet finds out when called a "misogynist" in response.

This is all part of a gigantic lie orchestrated and repeated ad nausea to steal rights from citizens and fund jobs for all those diploma mill social workers. Most of this "war on" type thinking preys on the same type of female voting bloc that sends "feelgood" checks to all those abused animal ASPCA ads on television. Without that callow female voting bloc, none of it could exist because sadly, male voters, with all our foibles, aren't as easily fooled by such. Women should vote in a moral society, but fact is, in comparison to most men, they generally vote like self-interested children, not citizens seeking the greater good in their communities. Part of the solution depends on more women growing up and coming to the adult citizenship table as opposed to the single issue voter "mememe" table. That's out of our control as men, but whatever we do, don't waste votes on the enemy's pet projects and politicians, left, right GOP or Democrat. When they start making "I do all these things for women" noises, that's the moment we should vote elsewhere. We need to cast out politicians who kowtow to gender specific vote mongering.

2. Become at least a little politically aware locally. When your local congressman of any party has a public event, go. If they start up with all the pork projects and govjobs they are bringing to the area, SPEAK OUT. Tell them you for one don't want that kind of government, and will remember such at election time. They already have a roomful of sycophantic women drooling over all the fempork and good jobs for women in the room. Is it any wonder they do as they do with no opposition spoken or present? We let it happen to us by silence.

3. Turn off branded media outlets like ABC that give the Sarkeesians of the world an instant podium to spout any old lies she chooses to spout, even if that entails your favorite shows or sports. She is a NOBODY with no life accomplishments, credentials, meaningful publications, yet because she is spouting a govmedia feminized compliant message, she gets a national voice? This should enrage you enough to send a measured response to ABC telling them exactly why you won't be watching any of their programming going forward. At the very least, if you see such a slanted article, turn off the source and tell others about it identifying ABC as the source of it.

4. When you hear a stat like "there are 700,000 hungry children in this state" or other bogus PSAs and billboards, call BS. Tell everyone you see that day what you heard/saw and how absurd it is. Tell everyone you see the real purpose of it and not to be fooled. If it sinks in with even one other person, you have accomplished something. Making a post on the net, not as long as this one of course, spreads the word too.

5. Learn a little about the law. Know what the "Lilly Ledbetter Act" is, why it is discriminatory and costly. Know why DUI laws are so strict in an environment where 85% of women either don't drink at all or little, lots are driven around by men most of their lives, and have been waging a puritanical prohibition movement in this country for 100 years. Understand how those laws fuel a whole dependent social work industry of mostly female employees. Know about legal moves afoot to redefine criminal burdens of proof in favor of crimes affecting women, yet no attention at all is given to prison rape. Know the truth behind feminists' bogus claims of continued workplace disparities and harrassment. Just knowing and telling helps a little.

It doesn't require a jihad for individual men, just a bit of extra attention and a minor time investment. They spend huge amounts of time stealing rights and $$ from us all, isn't even a meager response worth our time?

Great stuff can't argue with this.....

Maybe we can start a thread going here to lead guys in directions to get things going
 

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Agreed... and the best way to educate people about this?

Funny, interesting and true Internet MEME's and Infographics.. Break it down into simple easy bits for the laymen to understand then launch it off into the net where it can be posted and re-posted a thousand times.

If enough men act...if the marriage rate drops to 30%, if the birth rate falls to 1, if more men marry/date women without college degrees, or from better cultures where they respect men, etc. THEN you will start to see some change. That's why sites like ours and philosophies like ours are so much better than these MRM clowns.
I did my part already and I encourage more men to meet and only marry FEMININE women... also men need to 'man up' in the sense of attitude, stop taking sh1t from women. Don't participate in sh1t tests, stop them before they start and USE their power to walk away and find other women... Some would argue spinning plates but I would instead say just have an abundance mentality about women and travel outside the country at least once to solidify the truth in your head. There are tons of women out there, not just American wind bags.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
Agreed... and the best way to educate people about this?

Funny, interesting and true Internet MEME's and Infographics.. Break it down into simple easy bits for the laymen to understand then launch it off into the net where it can be posted and re-posted a thousand times.
This is an excellent idea, but so tough to implement, have given it much thought in the past. Reasonable people aren't swayed by memes, consider them as more of the same flummery and propagandistic manipulation. But they do shape and frame public opinion over time among the unreasoned, granted.

Some of the primary feminist memes, for example, are "the patriarchy," "sexism," "1 in 4 (women have been sexually abused or raped)," "wage discrimination," "glass ceiling," and "misogyny." They have achieved meme status, even though patently and historically dishonest, due to repetition for 50 years and a complacent audience. Do we have that kind of propaganda machine at our disposal? Maybe best to vote with feet and wallets, stick to negation as opposed to trying to mount a positive response.

If we attempt to counter with our own memes, are we becoming just as bad as feminists? Are we playing into their hands by allowing a "polar view" to emerge that they can then mobilize further against? Would we give them renewed relevance in an environment where their own memes are beginning to shoot themselves in the foot?

It's impossible now to express any anti feminist opinions without being branded an "MRA" or "part of the underbelly manosphere of the internet." I don't know the answers here, just wondering, but am afraid the status quo will win this battle because they have an established infrastructure in every jr college in the country and elsewhere, not to mention a compliant media, and any counter memes would be massaged into convenient polar positions for infinite femculture and media straw-manning.

It may be that negation is the best response without attempting to affirm any positive things, else we are playing in their propaganda wheelhouse. It is a thorny question.
 

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