Manners matter..sometimes a lot...

[BackInTheGame78]

Was on a second date with an HB8, and as we were getting ready to leave I did the simple thing of picking up her coat and holding it so she could put it on. The look on her face was priceless. She was stunned. She said "Thank you so much! Nobody has ever done that before for me. That was so nice!"

I laughed and said something about I'm not sure if having basic manners is more of a positive for me or a negative for all those other people and she laughed and said definitely a positive for you and kissed me on the lips.

This happened Friday...this weekend she has been texting me quite a bit and we have another date planned for this week. This morning she texted me to say that she just can't stop thinking about me and how nobody has ever helped her with her coat before and how much she liked that.

Guys...show some manners. There is a lot of talk about how not to act, and don't be an AFC, etc, but I'm telling you that having basic manners and displaying them regularly will get you a lot farther than you think. You don't do it "to get laid" or because you are "nice", you do it because that's how you were raised(hopefully).

In today's day and age having basic manners can really separate you from a lot of other guys, in a very positive way. Never thought simply helping a woman put on her coat would have such a profound effect, I just did it because that's how a man acts. Based on her reaction and follow up texts it obviously must not be something she is used to and I'd bet that goes for a lot of other women too.

 

[El Payaso]

Do it because you just feel like it not because you feel obligated to or because that's how a "man acts".

Most especially, don't do it to win female approval.

 

[Roober]

Showing manners has nothing to do with being AFC. This is where the line between a "nice guy" and a nice guy gets blurred a bit. Unfortunately, most people today are just not raised with good manners. I think if it is noticeable that you are running way ahead to open a door, or do things like that, you are a "nice guy"

For me, I do the little things like...
-open doors for just about anyone. I won't run out of my way, but will make an effort to do it
-Help with coat as you said
-rarely check my phone while with someone
-not farting or belching while eating, etc.
-not putting elbows on table
-general dining etiquette (napkin on chair/lap, silverware on plate, keeping clean, etc.)
-Use "please" , "excuse me", or others
-never take the last bite if sharing something
-"ladies first" often - works especially well when sharing stories as we never make it to my story.

I could be an a$$ and not have manners and go for a bad boy persona, but that would be fake. And frankly, women that don't have good manners themselves are not really worth my time or effort...

 

[KingofPuss]

Ya. I have been slacking on this lately, but I like to do one good thing a day that will give me "good karma". Just help someone else out in a little way, male or female. It benefits both of us, and if I were in their shoes, I'd appreciate the help a lot. Usually this applies when I'm at work.

I like this thread. It needs to be spoken of more often

 

[icantgetlaid]

being masculine/strong willed/having boundaries/etc. combined with good old fashioned manners & chivalry will take you far.

 

[Glassguy]

Manners are important. Simple things like opening doors, etc will separate you from the other 15 dudes trying to get in her pants.

I have a process that I follow: when I am on a date with someone I try to give my attention and focus to her. I practice these easy things like said above.

You can be a decent guy and still have game. You just have to be a standout while your with them so they miss and crave seeing you in between dates. In between is when you are busy, scarce and don't initiate nearly as much as her. Hook them and make them chase a bit in between.

 

[Billtx49]

It's fairly amusing that we now live in a time when a mans good manners can be considered as being unique by a female. They are a great way to differentiate yourself from other men by utilizing them…

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Yes, manners are what makes the world go round. Every woman has a gentleman fantasy. A true gentleman knows what he wants, and knows how to go about it in a charming manner.

Sadly this has been lost in our ideological world, where qualities have been dichotomized, and you have the 'nice guys' on the one hand and the 'bad boys' on the other. The 'nice guy' is overly socialized with a mind conforming to the mass [blue pill]. The 'bad boy' reacts against the mass [still mass-minded in so far as reactive and not self-determined... red pill]. The gentleman is educated [educatio - led out/ led from] beyond the mass and lives a self-determined life.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I could be an a$$ and not have manners and go for a bad boy persona, but that would be fake. And frankly, women that don't have good manners themselves are not really worth my time or effort...

Yes, best to be yourself. Funny how the first advice you ever received turns out to be the best.

 

[Serenity]

Some women will like old fashion manners, other will be offended because they like helping themselves. So yeah, not a waterproof tip you got there.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Right because helping her put her coat on is the key to success.

 

[Roober]

Yes, manners are what makes the world go round. Every woman has a gentleman fantasy. A true gentleman knows what he wants, and knows how to go about it in a charming manner.

Sadly this has been lost in our ideological world, where qualities have been dichotomized, and you have the 'nice guys' on the one hand and the 'bad boys' on the other. The 'nice guy' is overly socialized with a mind conforming to the mass [blue pill]. The 'bad boy' reacts against the mass [still mass-minded in so far as reactive and not self-determined... red pill]. The gentleman is educated [educatio - led out/ led from] beyond the mass and lives a self-determined life.

Kind of reminds me of the Book of Pook, which is really pretty striaght forwrad...

The jerk/bad boy - they are essentially the extreme, lack manners, etc
The nice guy - supplicates and panders and tries wayyyyy too hard to have good manners
The DJ - has manners and presents himself accordingly. It is understanding that he is first, but still respecting women (or anyone for that matter)

 

[AlphaNate]

The jerk/bad boy - they are essentially the extreme, lack manners, etc
The nice guy - supplicates and panders and tries wayyyyy too hard to have good manners
The DJ - has manners and presents himself accordingly. It is understanding that he is first, but still respecting women (or anyone for that matter)

Or, you could ditch the labels and just do what comes naturally for you, regardless of how chicks perceive it.

My parents raised me to be respectful, so as long as you don't **** with me, I'll show respect.