I've heard it in my biology classes. And technically there is nothing wrong with calling the moths "evolved." Evolution means the change in allele frequencies within a population. Evolution is an observed phenomenon. But saying that the entire theory has been proven (that mutations create new genetic info, and the newly superior organisms win out) is manipulative.Deep Dish said:For instance, factually demonstrate by quoting credible sources where evolutionary biologists have used typica and melanic peppered moth populations as argument for mutations rather than just an example of natural selection.
And you already tried to equate observed evolution with unobserved macroevolution.Nighthawk said:There were some moths who lived in a forest somewhere. Then man-made pollution made the trees blacker and the light-coloured ones didn't blend in so well and were eaten by birds. The ones with darker-wing genes survived and thrived. Evolution.
You were implying that the existence of observable evolution proves the entire theory. Microevolution is common sense, and it is observable. Macroevolution is quite speculative.Deep Dish said:One method deniers employ when creating a controversy (where none actually exists) is to take the central tenant of a premise--a singular premise and thus a singular tenant, bifercate the issue into two separate issues, and accept one, deny the other.
The closest thing to an observed example of macroevolution is when fruit flies speciate into two distinct populations. But while that's technically the creation of a new species, it certainly has nothing to do with mutations or new genetic info.
and there's no need for you to write an essay; I don't really have time to debate all the specific facts anyway. I just get annoyed at the corrupted logic and manipulation being used to prop up the theory.