Man, I really need to improve my game.

[Viper]

I really need to improve my game. I'm afraid of just approaching girls out of the open, for instance, there's this HB named Heather who is in my grade and lives just around the corner from me, but rarely rides the bus because she has volleyball, today she rode the bus, but I was scared to talk to her. Firstly, she was sitting next to this real b*tchy girl named Jordan that I don't really like, secondly I was afraid of messing up and thirdly, I just didn't think my game would be good enough to build enough interest in the conversation. This girl is no competition, the hottest girl on the bus and since she hardly rides the bus I wanted to take my chance, but I was too insecure. I use to approach girls alot, but I never really built enough interest and I always tell myself, "Even if I do approach her, I'll never be able to build enough interest or really accomplish anything.". I keep trying to convince myself that I'm "Prince Charming" or the "Great Catch" and can't be turned down, but in the end, I'm just lying to myself. I'm especially afraid to approach girls who pay alot of attention to the jocks, I think "I'll never be able to make her laugh or entertain her as much as those guys, even if I did approach her, she still wouldn't think of me as anything special.". This is why I don't approach a lot of chicks, firstly, I don't think I'll be able to build enough rapport and secondly, I just don't really think I would be accomplishing anything by cold approaching girls, especially since I'm not a good conversationalist.

 

[Alphathree]

Cold approaches are easy.

Step 1. Walk up.

Step 2. Say "Hi, my name is UberConfident."

Step 3. Listen to her introduction.

Step 4. Say "Well, nice to meet you SuperHot. I've gotta get going."

Step 5. Walk away.

If you see her every day, the next approach will be dead easy. Rome wasn't built in a day.

There was an HB who literally followed me into a room where she wasn't supposed to be the other day, in retrospect obviously trying to get my attention. My friends were like, "dude, a hot girl followed you in here!" Frick! I should've been paying more attention, because all I would've had to do is the above.

Don't make it difficult.

 

[Viper]

Originally posted by Alphathree
Cold approaches are easy.

Step 1. Walk up.

Step 2. Say "Hi, my name is UberConfident."

Step 3. Listen to her introduction.

Step 4. Say "Well, nice to meet you SuperHot. I've gotta get going."

Step 5. Walk away.

If you see her every day, the next approach will be dead easy. Rome wasn't built in a day.

There was an HB who literally followed me into a room where she wasn't supposed to be the other day, in retrospect obviously trying to get my attention. My friends were like, "dude, a hot girl followed you in here!" Frick! I should've been paying more attention, because all I would've had to do is the above.

Don't make it difficult.

This is what I've been doing to cold approach. But should I really be mad if I don't accomplish rapport with her on the first approach?
So, you don't actually have to start conversation, just approach, the first time? That's what it seems like you're telling me.

 

[Alphathree]

Originally posted by Viper
This is what I've been doing to cold approach. But should I really be mad if I don't accomplish rapport with her on the first approach?
So, you don't actually have to start conversation, just approach, the first time? That's what it seems like you're telling me.

I'm telling you that you're not going to get true rapport on a cold approach and if you're going to see her because your schedules cross anyway, there's no reason to try do it all at once.

If you're really a DJ, the other women in that location will be interested in you, and for that reason, so too will she.

 

[Smooth Player 056]

The mini intro that was posted was NOT a cold approach. Yeah, you could say technically you did approach, but you basically would be lying to yourself. You CAN and SHOULD get rapport on a cold approach.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Viper you seriously need to stop asking the SAME questions after everyone gave you answers. For you all that dont go to the hs forum, vipers posted NUMEROUS post in there regarding the same topics. Each post he made would have at least 3 pages of comments, yet he did NOTHING but post more and more. He took no ones information, criticized those who tried to help, and kept making excuses. Its outrageous that youve decided to post here since everyone got sick you your lame post. Ive even helped you on aim and you obviously ignored what i said. Please, for the sake of everyone, do something about your problems, stop asking the same old questions and take resposibility for your life.

 

[Viper]

Originally posted by oakraiderz2
Viper you seriously need to stop asking the SAME questions after everyone gave you answers. For you all that dont go to the hs forum, vipers posted NUMEROUS post in there regarding the same topics. Each post he made would have at least 3 pages of comments, yet he did NOTHING but post more and more. He took no ones information, criticized those who tried to help, and kept making excuses. Its outrageous that youve decided to post here since everyone got sick you your lame post. Ive even helped you on aim and you obviously ignored what i said. Please, for the sake of everyone, do something about your problems, stop asking the same old questions and take resposibility for your life.

I'm not even going to start. First of all, you've got to stop acting like you're some big know it all Don Juan and- forget it, I'm not even getting into it. If I knew the answer to these questions, I OBVIOUSLY wouldn't be posting. Besides, what numerous topics? Oh, you mean the topics about this that didn't get many replies or where locked because of your arguing? If I got the advice I needed, I wouldn't keep asking. You see, in the HS forum I use to actually get good advice, then *******s start coming and posting totally irrelavent things in my topics. The reason I don't post in the HS forum is because if everyone wants to act like they know everything, get off-topic, argue and not give good advice/give irrelavent advice, I'm just done with it. Sure, there's the occassional person who gives on-topic good advice, but most of it is just you *******s trying to bicker.

 

[coder]

The problem is you are judging yourself. You have decided that you are not good enough before you even tried. You are also totally concerned with the outcome, i.e. getting the girl, not getting to know her. Have you considered that maybe she is not good enough for you? Perhaps you need to think of getting to know if she meets the criteria you have for a gf. What is your criteria? Have you thought about that? Figure out what you want in a girl besides looks and then talk to her to see if she meets the criteria. Only if she meets the criteria should you think about "getting" her. What if you realize that she is a *****? Would you still want her? And stop judging yourself.

 

[Smooth Player 056]

Viper I dont think you understand....your posts werent locked because of oakraiderz2, they were locked because of your stupid repetative topics.....do everyone here a favor and BAN yourself....or at the very least APPLY the advice people give you.

 

[Viper]

Originally posted by Smooth Player 056
Viper I dont think you understand....your posts werent locked because of oakraiderz2, they were locked because of your stupid repetative topics.....do everyone here a favor and BAN yourself....or at the very least APPLY the advice people give you.

If you say so.

The problem is you are judging yourself. You have decided that you are not good enough before you even tried. You are also totally concerned with the outcome, i.e. getting the girl, not getting to know her. Have you considered that maybe she is not good enough for you? Perhaps you need to think of getting to know if she meets the criteria you have for a gf. What is your criteria? Have you thought about that? Figure out what you want in a girl besides looks and then talk to her to see if she meets the criteria. Only if she meets the criteria should you think about "getting" her. What if you realize that she is a *****? Would you still want her? And stop judging yourself.

You know, I never really thought about it that way. To tell you the truth, I don't know what my criteria for girls really are, I mean of course she has to be hot, but I've never really thought about what I want in a personality. You're right, I have been judging myself and I've got to put an end to it.

 

[Android]

Yeah, I'm currently working up the courage to speak to this super hot chick. It's not easy, but I'll do it. (And I think she wants me anyways.) That's all it takes. You just have to do it.

I can update when I finally do it. (2 weeks tops, lol, hopefully 2 days)

 

[oakraiderz2]

same sh*t...different day...someone cant accept responsibility

 

[Derek Flint]

Get the Shark Attract & Date CD's from Fidentia.

They specifically address your problems and how to overcome them.

http://www.attractanddate.com/testimonials/attract_and_date_reviews.htm

 

[LongDrinkofWater]

Don't be too distraught if you don't wind up building rapport. I've done enough approaches to know that I'm not going to click with every girl I talk to. Instead of going into the approach thinking of yourself as the "great catch" or whatever, reframe the situation into one of "I'll bet that girl is a really cool chick". You may say that's a lame mindset, but it will help you to focus on what she says rather than how she looks, and possiby prevent you from stammering. Just the fact that you approached her has told her all she needs to know - you've let your actions do the talking. So, since thats out of the way, you can concentrate on getting to know her better. Good luck....

 

[boulepiquante]

magic tricks

why not try a couple of magic tricks on her?
you walk up to her and say ' i am an amateur magician can i try out this magic trick on you !! it ll just take a few secs!!!
don t worry '
honestly it works
cuz if you have practised the tricks about 20 times ( a couple of simple tricks will do ) you ll perform well and she ll be impressed and see as the ALPHAmale
i know loads of tricks !!! if you are interested

 

[Fender]

Baby steps Viper.

Don't even THINK about attraction at first. Pretend you lost your ball sack in Afghanistan. You are now a WOMAN.

Now go and have normal convo with this girl. Treat her like your male-buddies/sister/mom.

Once you can have smooth flowing convo, THEN we'll worry about attracting her.

-fender-

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Fender - that approach works with me. I usually just start talking as if I were talking to another guy. After a couple of encounters, I've had women offer up their phone number to me.

It's perfect - you come across as not desperate, and a little mysterious, and you get them wondering if you are attracted to them at all.

The worst thing to do is to go in with expectations - forget about expectations and just talk to them.