Man essentials (material stuff)???

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know that we as true men do not need material possessions etc but what would you consider yours?

What would you consider the standard goal for most (not talking a car for every day of the week etc just talking a reasonable good goal for a 30 yr old male or add your responses due to ages).

eg.

30

- Own place (renting or owning but your own space)
- Own car
- Computer
- mobile phone
- mp3 player
- decent wardrobe


What else???
 

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EDIT: Okay I thought of some stuff after I first posted this, but I still stand by what I said. Material possessions should SUPPORT a man's goals and passions, not BE his goals and passions. If a man is into kayaking, then having a kayak may be essential. If a man is a marathon runner, then having a good pair of running shoes may be essential. If a man is into sailing, having a sailboat may be essential. So it really depends on the man.

That said, here's some stuff you'll find around my house:

- Tools
- Camping gear
- Lawn care equipment
- Big outdoor grill
- A quality set of kitchen knives
- Stainless steel cookware, not teflon
- Ceramic Dishes/Cups, not plastic
- Plants
- Art, not posters
- Camera
- Furniture that doesn't look like it's from a college dorm
- A big comfortable bed
- A car, paid-off
- Gym membership or exercise equipment
- A bathroom that women won't be afraid to go in
 
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a grill
a camera
a fishing pole
a gun
tools
 

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For A MAN At 30:

- A House (preferrably buying)
- Car (paid off or low payments)
- Passport
- Cash in bank (enough to live 3+ months if job lost)
- Long Term Savings (ie 401K with a good start)
- Post High School diploma or clean DD-214
- Computer
- A few decent tools
- Some decent cookware, dishes, etc.
- Conceal Carry Permit (to go with Vulpine's gvns)
- Gym membership or exercise equipment
- Material things that compliment getting out of the house, hobbies, etc

Actually your question is interesting because I first thought I things to NOT HAVE at 30:

- Credit card debt
- College debt
- Excessive car debt
- All kinds of material stuff that you will never use again (ie clutter)
- TV, Video Games
- Large collections of Media which go obsolete (DVD's, games, etc)
 

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My own personal opinion:

1) A collection of good books including the Bible
2) A grill/smoker and a basic knowledge of cooking
3) An emergency fund
4) A start of long term savings (401K, IRAs, etc.)
5) Paid for vehicle
6) House
7) Set of common house tools
8) Basic internet access and computer, nothing elaborate
9) Sterio system, again nothing elaborate
10) Up to date cell phone
11) Up to date cloths
12) Digital camera
13) Passport
14) Bike
15) 4 wheeler
16) Old green boat
17) Shotgun/Rifle or both like me
18) English bulldog

And my pipedream is a cabin in the middle of nowhere with a 100 acres around it.

You do all that and you're in pretty good shape. You definitely don't NEED all that crap. It's just what I'd like to have at 30, which probably won't happen.
 

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House you own. (got it)
Cabin for getaways and the like (don't have it)
Paid off vehicle (got it)
Dirt Bike (got it)
House fixed up - clean, painted, furnished appropriately (getting there)
Hot tub (don't have it)
401K
IRA
3 months of savings
Great friends
Well stocked bar - plenty of mixers for the ladies
Humidor and cigars
Available Pvssy
Personal stock fund (got all of the above)
 

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i've been seeing alot of posts suggesting guys OWN their own homes, but honestly I have no interest in owning a house and doing the things it takes to maintain one (mowing the lawn, repairing plumbing etc..).

I get it its an investment that you will make a profit off of and I see why most of you always recommend it, but is owning your own home that big of a deal ?? what is so bad about renting ??
 

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I think most of these ideas are nice to have, but not necessarily own. What if you live in NYC or Chicago, do you really need a dirtbike?

I think it's kind of worthless to own a home by yourself unless it's a dainty little thing that you can take care of easily. Too much of a house means a lot of cleaning and maintenance, so instead of pulling chicks you'll be pushing a broom.
 

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This is a totally subjective question, but there are some good suggestions here.

There are some exceptions too. If you're 30 and still in medical/grad school you cant really have a lot of these things. Most of these lists assume you have a well-paying job and are long out of school.

But, regardless of your place in school/career, there are some things any independent Man should own:

-A personal firearm, or a rifle/shotgun.
-Basic tools. A good drill, hand tools, and the like.
-A versatile wardrobe.
-Reliable mode of transportation. You have to be mobile.
-Some form of fine alcohol in your home.
-Outdoor gear.
-A clean, respectable pad.
-at least a month's savings.

Other small necessities:

-Some girl-friendly dvds and tunes. VERY handy.
-Lube, condoms, and a towel handy by the bed. (but not in plain view)
-Low 'mood lighting' in your room.
-Gum or mouthwash
-A good trimmer for grooming
-A good knife.
-Internet access
 

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DarkShade said:
I think it's kind of worthless to own a home by yourself unless it's a dainty little thing that you can take care of easily. Too much of a house means a lot of cleaning and maintenance, so instead of pulling chicks you'll be pushing a broom.
One of the best times to own a house is by yourself. You can do whatever you want. The wife isn't moving stuff around or asking to paint or asking you to hang a picture 4" lower so she can see it better :)

Being more serious for a bit - I rented for many years before buying a home. All I can say was that all that rent was a waste of money and time. I never had any freedom to do projects that required more space. It was always a pain to store larger stuff (yep, even had dirtbikes for years).

And bringing the topic back towards being DJ and busting the socio-matrix programming we've all be fed. A few common themes I see again and again are basically rationalizations / justifications along the lines of "I don't want to buy a place until I get married" or "Having a house will take all my time" (or some BS like that). Huge mistake. How many guys and women out there are waiting just for this reason. Then when they turn 35 and get married they are buying that first house and if they're lucky they've got 5% down because they were blowing the rest on credit cards and crap.

I said screw that and finally bought my first place and then about 5yrs later another home. I will just say this - the number of women I met after owning a home didn't decline and I can't name one that thought me living in a house was a reason for them so go bang some other guy. Usually the opposite.

And fortunately my wife was thinking like me as she owned a home ever since she graduated college. Neither one of us got a penny from out families and we paid for all of our education out of our own pockets. When we got married we had the opposite problem - selling an extra house - excellent problem to have - we're now living in my place and her nice equity check is sitting safe and sound until the market recovers and which point we should be able to bump up to something closer to 5000sf.

And one more thing - having too much space and being worried about cleaning it is another farce (rationalization / justification). Close up the unused rooms. They'll be ready to go when company comes over. And if you have the space and can tolerate it, rent to a roommate. The only problem with too much space is that so many people out there (guys and women) are such disgusting pack rats and consumers and buy so much crap and keep it.

Buy a home sooner than later. Go for as much space and garage size as possible. Big yards seem nice at first but they are just a hassle later on. I'd easily trade my 1/2acre for 1/4acre if I could add another 1000sf of space and another garage stall.
 

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Sinistar said:
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Being more serious for a bit - I rented for many years before buying a home. All I can say was that all that rent was a waste of money and time. I never had any freedom to do projects that required more space. It was always a pain to store larger stuff (yep, even had dirtbikes for years).

And bringing the topic back towards being DJ and busting the socio-matrix programming we've all be fed. A few common themes I see again and again are basically rationalizations / justifications along the lines of "I don't want to buy a place until I get married" or "Having a house will take all my time" (or some BS like that). Huge mistake. How many guys and women out there are waiting just for this reason. Then when they turn 35 and get married they are buying that first house and if they're lucky they've got 5% down because they were blowing the rest on credit cards and crap.

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And one more thing - having too much space and being worried about cleaning it is another farce (rationalization / justification). Close up the unused rooms. They'll be ready to go when company comes over. And if you have the space and can tolerate it, rent to a roommate. The only problem with too much space is that so many people out there (guys and women) are such disgusting pack rats and consumers and buy so much crap and keep it.

Buy a home sooner than later. ....
So much gold here, Sinistar, props.:yes:

Paying money for something you'll never own is a bad investment. Period. There are VERY few exceptions.

So, every time you sign a rent check... WASTE OF MONEY.

It's called "Renter's prison". You can't afford a home because you throw money away on something you'll never own. That money could be going to YOU, not the guy who owns the building you rent. When was the last time you heard someone's rent WENT DOWN? Right, probably never. But, you HAVE heard of people making the last payment on their homes, haven't you?

Sure, there is a certain amount of upkeep, but, the pros of owning a home far and away out number the cons. No people fighting next door, no fat ƒuckers upstairs making the ceiling squeak, no door slamming, no cops coming if your girlfriend is a screamer, no little storage area, none of that "shared area" bullsh¡t.

The way to do it is to stay at home as long as possible while you save for your down payment, then move out and directly into your own home - skipping renting altogether. Do people do that?

And, speaking of "shared area" bullsh¡t, owning a home by yourself means that (and I speak for myself) you don't have someone trashing your place and not picking up after themselves. My place stays spic-and-span because I clean up after myself. And, once I clean up after myself, THE PLACE STAYS CLEAN.

Oh, and Sinistar is right on the money: people, if they have space, will fill it with crap they don't need or use. Think he's making it up? I know everyone here has driven by a place where the garage door is up. How many of those places had no cars in the garage, just boxes of crap? How many had one car in a two car garage, but the other half is full of crap?

Packrat, impulse-buying consumers make me laugh. Sheep.

Buying crap to stuff in your apartment is just more stuff to move. Not only that, but more stuff to get beat up and/or destroyed during the move. But nobody wants to see that all their nice "stuff" only makes their lives harder. :rolleyes:
 

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1) White single breasted Gucci suit.
2) St DuPont Rollagas lighter.
3) Prada aviator sunglasses.
4) Ferarri 430 (Spyder for posers, Berlinetta for real racers).
6) Lifetime gym membership.
5) A pyschotherapist.
6) Tag Heuer re edition monza watch.
7) Own your own business or be a spy.
 

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Some really great points here about owning. Not much else to say, but let me add this:

I live in LA. To currently rent a 1 bedroom appartment your looking at $1200 a month. Now, if you want to live in a crap hole, you can get a cheaper place, but it's there or there about's for a decent clean living area.

I own my own place. My mortgage is less than $2000 a month. Now, add to that, the interest you pay is tax deductable (to some degree) - this gives you a slight tax break. Also add to that, in 5 yrs time, my monthly housing "nut" will still be less than $2000, whilst rent will be ever increasing year over year. So my monthly cost of housing will continually decrease as a percentage of my income, whilst for renters it will remain approximately the same % of overall income (assuming for Wage increases and inflation).

Buying my own place was the best thing I've done - pride of ownership, my own castle and a place I can retreat to.
 

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daring wraith said:
1) White single breasted Gucci suit.
2) St DuPont Rollagas lighter.
3) Prada aviator sunglasses.
4) Ferarri 430 (Spyder for posers, Berlinetta for real racers).
6) Lifetime gym membership.
5) A pyschotherapist.
6) Tag Heuer re edition monza watch.
7) Own your own business or be a spy.
this list makes perfect sense as a whole, doesn't it.
 

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Art. Not Target prints, I'm talking about REAL original oil paintings. If they come from different parts of the world and even different centuries...bonus points.

I also like cool old stuff that can be displayed. I have antique furniture and framed shipwreck coins. I also have quite a few artifacts (ancient Roman, medieval, native American) such as knives, arrowheads, jewelry, etc.

All of this stuff has TONS of character, reflects your personality, and goes up, up, UP in value.
 

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daring wraith said:
1) White single breasted Gucci suit.
2) St DuPont Rollagas lighter.
3) Prada aviator sunglasses.
4) Ferarri 430 (Spyder for posers, Berlinetta for real racers).
6) Lifetime gym membership.
5) A pyschotherapist.
6) Tag Heuer re edition monza watch.
7) Own your own business or be a spy.

Who needs a psychotherapist when you have sosuave.com?

And the only watch a man would ever need is a 16610 :D

However i agree on the lifetime gym membership :up:
 

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Fallen said:
Who needs a psychotherapist when you have sosuave.com?

And the only watch a man would ever need is a 16610 :D

However i agree on the lifetime gym membership :up:

Well, my list was inspired by the films, "American Psycho" and "The Gigolo", so it kinda made sense.

Well Mr. Bond, the Rolex 16610 Submariner is a nice watch..... but not the only one a man should possess, there is the Tag Heuer Monaco, Rolex Daytona, Chanel J12 (not sure about this one, but women love it), IWC chronograghs, Breitlings chronograghs, Porsche design titanium, Patek Phillipes.... i could go on forever.
 

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daring wraith said:
Well, my list was inspired by the films, "American Psycho" and "The Gigolo", so it kinda made sense. I figured that after i read it. Sounded pretty familiar. :up:

Well Mr. Bond, the Rolex 16610 Submariner is a nice watch..... but not the only one a man should possess, there is the Tag Heuer Monaco, Rolex Daytona, Chanel J12 (not sure about this one, but women love it), IWC chronograghs, Breitlings chronograghs, Porsche design titanium, Patek Phillipes.... i could go on forever.
I agree ( except for the crappy Breitlings ) and these are all awesome watches to have. Especially the Pateks. But that would not be "the only one" anymore, wouldn't it?:cool:

Of course the list would go on forever if you're into watches ( like both of us obviously are ):
I'd like to add the Heuer Monaco, an Officine Panerai Power Reserve, a Chronoswiss Opus, an AP Royal Oak Offshore, one of those nice Bulgari Chronos and if money is not an issue, then of course an Ulyssee Nardin Freak Diamonsil :crazy:

But still, the only one is a steel Sub Date :trouble: ( or maybe a steel Daytona ) But these two are the "essence" of everything a man should have :rockon:

The "other only ones" are optional and something to look forward to :up:
 
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