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speed dawg said:
Name one racist thing I have ever said that was not a fact. I don't care if you label it racist, as long as it's fact. I deal in the truth, not what I WISHED was the truth. I'd love to sit here say all people are equal, but we aren't. We are not even born equal. Genetics is real. No clue why you can't comprehend it. Well, yes I do have a clue.....you don't WANT to comprehend it.

There is literally NO objective data that backs up your viewpoint. It's not a matter of if you are wrong, it's a matter of how stupid do you want to look defending it.
So instead of actually responding to the points Ive made in my previous post, you back off with your tail between your legs. All I see is you whining:

"waaah, Im not a racist. What I say is right...what you say is wrong. But I will not directly address anything you've said. Ill simply call you stupid and go back to making racial flame bait, calling other people anti-white, but ignoring outright racism against non-whites"

My last post responded to every point you made. If you cannot do the same, its clear its a waste of time speaking to such a fool any longer. Its pathetic that you and the other race trolls on this forum spend most of your time on this race sh!t. Seriously, youre doing this crap constantly on a pick up forum.

It makes little sense. You'd be better served going to the echo chambers of a right wing or white nationalist forum...because not everyone here is gonna shake your hand and agree. You can whine, b!tch and kvetch about "liboorawls" all you want...but your bullsh!t wont go unchallenged.

Like Ive said before, and Ill say it again. People like you have no place in future American society. And its clear that the ever changing American landscape bothers you. Hence your consistent petulance on SoSuave.

Poor guy:(
 

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Tenacity said:
When did I "admit" I post for the sole purpose to get people angry?
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White liberals and Pro Blacks HATE my guts and I'm proud of it!
That's your sole purpose for wanting people to "hate" you. What's funny is, people don't even care what you're posting except for like one person. I see you didn't answer my question.






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As I said, you are more outraged at me stating that I can't STAND being around certain types of Black People
I'm not outraged at anything. I'm laughing at your stupidity pretending to be black. :crackup:

If you were actually black, you would know that you can easily be racially profiled for the color of your face. Nobody is going to care whether you can't stand being around certain types of black people. The whites doing the profiling are going to assume you are one and the same. If you were actually black, you would know that. Since you are not, you just outed yourself again. :crackup:
 

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:crackup: @ the resident gibsmedat anti-whites freaking out over Tenacity. I've noticed Tenacity always brings them out of their hate caves. Even swallowmans alternate account made an appearance.

"Imposter!! You don't hate whitey enough to be a TRUE black man :mad: :cry: :cuss: "

Deserves a rep point even if he is trolling them. Probably more so.
 

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:crackup: @ the resident gibsmedat anti-whites freaking out over Tenacity. I've noticed Tenacity always brings them out of their hate caves.

"Imposter!! You don't hate whitey enough to be a TRUE black man :mad:"
The only thing liberals hate worse than a white guy is a black or a female who rejects liberalism.
 

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Give me a break. You've obviously never been around packs of guys looking for trouble. I don't care how bad ass you are (I know you do some MMA), you can't beat off 3 guys.
Those weren't guys. Those were children. They looked about 15 or 16 years old. And they fought like it, too.

A guy I trained with got in a fight with three giant black guys once. They were all twice the size of those kids. My friend fought at 155. It's not like the movies, where the good guy never takes a punch - he got a little fvcked up, too, but he did so much damage to them that they ran away.

Ghetto people, of any color, can't fight worth a sh!t. They can be intimidating, and they certainly will stomp on you when you're down, but they're always too big of pvssies to tolerate any pain.

One of the rules of being a pack leader, whether we are dogs or people, is that the leader of the pack fights the stray dog. If the leader is scared of the stray, the pack is never going to attack. He got to be leader by kicking all their asses; their own self-preservation instinct will make them fear anything he fears.
 

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Embers84 said:
If you were actually black, you would know that you can easily be racially profiled for the color of your face. Nobody is going to care whether you can't stand being around certain types of black people.
So you're black?


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The whites doing the profiling are going to assume you are one and the same.
Why are the whites going to assume that? And how does that have anything to do with what he said?
 

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Those weren't guys. Those were children. They looked about 15 or 16 years old. And they fought like it, too.

A guy I trained with got in a fight with three giant black guys once. They were all twice the size of those kids. My friend fought at 155. It's not like the movies, where the good guy never takes a punch - he got a little fvcked up, too, but he did so much damage to them that they ran away.

Ghetto people, of any color, can't fight worth a sh!t. They can be intimidating, and they certainly will stomp on you when you're down, but they're always too big of pvssies to tolerate any pain.
I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm almost more alarmed when the rare young, fit non-ghetto white guy tries to start sh!t with me. I'm thinking MMA fighter. I will say though that all else equal blacks tend to be harder to knock out. The thing is someone like you or your friend willing to fight in MMA doesn't mind getting a "little fvcked up" maybe suffering a concussion or slight facial disfigurement. I'll still caution that if one good punch lands right, it might end up being the last thing you ever know, as they may keep pummeling you after you are out and down.

The real big issue here is even if you're winning a fight outnumbered against dieversity it's likely one of them will pick up a brick or pull a knife or gun. In the other thread I posted you saw how quick the young guy was fatally stabbed by 18-year old dieversity mt-clemens-stabbing.

One of the rules of being a pack leader, whether we are dogs or people, is that the leader of the pack fights the stray dog. If the leader is scared of the stray, the pack is never going to attack. He got to be leader by kicking all their asses; their own self-preservation instinct will make them fear anything he fears.
This might be mostly true, but I have noticed several times with dieversity especially with hispanic dieversity, they set a trap and the trap is to pit the chihuahua sized one against you initially as a lure. Also blacks all fancy themselves as championship boxers and even though they're only a middle weight they believe they can beat a heavyweight white.

This is why I say for most people, it's probably best to swallow your pride and hold your anger a bit and try to create distance.
 

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That guy was one of my best friends. He moved to California, but I still talk to him occasionally.

He was wearing shorts and flip-flops, and the fight took place on an asphalt parking lot, so he rubbed off a lot of skin off his knees and feet. He was also fond of a particular move called a fish hook, which when I called him on it he admitted getting it from the movie The Gangs of New York. If you stick your finger in a guys mouth and stretch it out before you punch him in it, the lip will split will amazingly easy and in spectacular fashion. He was doing that to one of those guys, and the guy bit the hell out of his finger. I told him that's probably the reason our trainer never taught us that move.

And yeah, weapons are a reality. You have to see it coming. Take it away and use it against him. I know I sound like mister tough guy by saying that, but honestly that is why I would never brandish a weapon at anyone. I would be scared to death that they would take it away from me and use it on me. It's not that hard to do. That's why prison guards who work around inmates don't carry guns.
 

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If I pull my gun on someone it's only because I believe I need to use it. It's concealed and they're not going to see it coming. Before they can make a move to take it away, I'm confident they'll be incapacitated. Like you said ghetto people are not likely to be experts in things like taking a gun away. Big Mike Brown couldn't take the gun away, and it didn't work out for Treyvon Martin. All cops carry guns which is more analogous with the street than prison. And usually the only time they lose their gun is when the attacker gets a jump and unholsters it being that it's not concealed.

If someone pulls a gun or knife on me, my plan is to run like the wind. And I suspect most attackers would too if you pulled a gun on them. That happened years ago with my sister and her then husband when walking one time near a downtown. A bunch of black guys attacked from behind and had her husband in a choke hold and he was about to lose consciousness. She was about panicked but reached into her purse and pulled out a pistol and they scattered.

These are some of my favorite stories to read armed-citizen
 
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Move backwards after you pull the gun. That does two things. From a legal perspective regarding self defense law, that makes you attempt to retreat from the situation. Several states have a 'duty of retreat,' where unless you are in your own home, you are supposed to try to run away before you can legally employ self-defense. Even if your state doesn't, it still makes you look better in court later, like you tried to avoid conflict.

The other thing is that moving backward puts you closer to a more safe distance for holding an attacker at bay with a firearm. The FBI has put that distance at as much as I think 19 feet. And that's for only one attacker. Even if you shoot someone, it takes a while for them to bleed out. They can still stab you before they die.
 

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Jaylan said:
And its clear that the ever changing American landscape bothers you.
What could have possibly given you this idea? :rolleyes:

Stagger Lee said:
I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm almost more alarmed when the rare young, fit non-ghetto white guy tries to start sh!t with me. I'm thinking MMA fighter. I will say though that all else equal blacks tend to be harder to knock out. The thing is someone like you or your friend willing to fight in MMA doesn't mind getting a "little fvcked up" maybe suffering a concussion or slight facial disfigurement. I'll still caution that if one good punch lands right, it might end up being the last thing you ever know, as they may keep pummeling you after you are out and down.

The real big issue here is even if you're winning a fight outnumbered against dieversity it's likely one of them will pick up a brick or pull a knife or gun. .............This is why I say for most people, it's probably best to swallow your pride and hold your anger a bit and try to create distance.
Yeah, bottom line is these guys just don't have much to lose. If you're going where there's a reasonable chance to experience dieversity, just carry a gun and be prepared. That's about all I have.
 

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backbeat said:
tenacity is vikingking/noobology. no brother says this sh1t.
Perhaps he isn't a "brother" but just a civilized person who happens to be black? One has to hope that such people do exist...
 

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Perhaps he isn't a "brother" but just a civilized person who happens to be black? One has to hope that such people do exist...
I didnt know people like you considered Tenacity's slur filled rant civilized. So its civilized people who lose their sh!t and start going on racist rants and shouting slurs. Or is it only civilized because of who his rant was attacking? If I started ranting about bad white people, while throwing around racialized insults, would I be civilized?

I guess Mel Gibson's anti Jew ranting was very civilized too huh?
 

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Jaylan said:
The United States was founded upon an us-vs-them mentality and system of laws. Only in recent times has the United States tried to mend its history of us-vs-them with a more assimilated but unique multicultural approach.
Are you including the last seven years?
 

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I carry a gun, because, when unarmed and facing three brutish thugs, I am inadequate!
 

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MMA is STILL absolute bull**** in my opinion and I don't think it would have been much use here. The moves I've been taught are for self defense purposes. I know for a fact how to break a leg with a very short range hard kick from a sitting position to the knee cap, its very easy to bust a knee or break an arm (only 2lbs of pressure reqd). These are the martial arts people should be learning, not this punch, kick, uppercut crap. You want to **** someone up in a couple seconds, lunge at them quickly, grab ahold of their head and neck and twist really hard, it does not take much once you know the technique. Hammerfist to the nose causes blindness for over 30 seconds due to blood and tears, a regular person will be completely incapacitated and incapable of continuing anything. Very VERY few people can withstand a broken jaw/arm/leg/hand or eye gauge and continue to fight... almost no one. Punching at someone's gut or forehead is idiotic, better to hit him where it counts, neck, eyes, balls are great... there are many places on the human body the break easily and quickly.

Real martial arts teaches you how to defend against people in life or death situations, one hit kills and fight stoppers, not useless wrestling and grappling. MMA is fine for 1 on 1 in a sports arena but how often does that happen, in a MMA fight, you know the other guy is going to stop before you die, on the street you have no way of knowing that. A typical fight between an attacker and his target should last between 3 to 5 seconds MAX, that's plenty of time to cause catastrophic damage to a person. You need to be aware of your surroundings and anything around that you can use as leverage, a wall, pole is a fantastic way to cause damage to a face. Nobody is going to pull a knife on you if they only have one arm left to do it with.

Hollywood fights are just that, make believe. Anyone who has ever been knocked out will tell you, it happens in a split second. You go from being on your feet to blacking out in the blink of an eye. I've been hit on the head full swing with a goddamn blunt sword, it broke my c1 and c2 vertebrae and it was very quick. I will not allow this to happen again from anyone. I also teach martial arts if anyone is interested. :)

I'd much rather be in court/jail then in a hospital or worse.

If I lived in the states, you better believe I'd have a noisy cricket. Anyone not carrying in the USA has got their head in the sand. I wonder if this dude was a liberal... 42 year old man, can't fight and is the sole white man on a train full of ghetto looking black people in a bad area... where is the common sense? If I were an American, I certainly wouldn't be living near the inner city. Much rather sell Ice Cream off a battle mountain than ride trains with these monkeys. I can't believe not ONE person stood up in his defense...not one. Sickening.

I know a guy, a white liberal academic, short and thin that told me he would rather let someone beat him up then cause harm to another human being. He describes himself as a 'live and let live' kind of guy. This is the majority of the white AMERICAN men I run into.
 

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Jaylan said:
I didnt know people like you considered Tenacity's slur filled rant civilized. So its civilized people who lose their sh!t and start going on racist rants and shouting slurs. Or is it only civilized because of who his rant was attacking? If I started ranting about bad white people, while throwing around racialized insults, would I be civilized?

I guess Mel Gibson's anti Jew ranting was very civilized too huh?

Damn the irony, a guy who is promoting someone to be civilized on a discussion forum, says jack shyt about a group of thugs not being civilized in their actual DAY TO DAY activities.

My words on a Discussion Forum are worse than what the Thugs did in real life, that's the logic of the Pro Black person, just speak to any one of them. Their logic is as follows:

- It's not the thug's fault when he robs or kills somebody, he only did it because of White Supremacy and if there were no White Supremacy and Slavery, then he wouldn't do it. So let's not blame the thug, let's not talk shyt about the thug, let's all come together and hold hands and coddle the thug...he doesn't know any better, the THUG is the victim!

- It's not the welfare chick's fault when she deliberately makes 5 kids from 5 deadbeat thugs that she knows she can't take care of, just to get Government monthly residual checks in the form of EBT, Medicaid, TANF, and whatever bullshyt program available. Let's not blame her, you know why? She only did it because of White Supremacy and if there were no White Supremacy and Slavery, then she wouldn't do it. So let's not blame the welfare queen, let's not talk shyt about her, let's all come together and hold hands and coddle her...she doesn't know any better, she is the victim!

- If you see a group of black men or black women, acting ghetto, loud, ratchet and violent, let's not blame them...because they are only doing that because of White Supremacy and Slavery. So instead of asking them to act CIVILIZED, instead let's just coddle them because they are victims.

This is the LOGIC of the Pro Black person like Jay, trust me, I have ran into people like this many times over the years. Their Logic continues with the following:

- Non ghetto, educated, and well-off blacks are sell outs because they refuse to come BACK to the ghettos where the thugs and welfare queens are to GIVE THEM money and create businesses in the ghetto. Never mind you that those same thugs and welfare queens were beating the fvck out of the educated black when they were there, now that they made it out, they are supposed to come back and save the people who were beating the fvck out of them.

- Non ghetto, educated and well-off blacks that criticize thugs and welfare queens are "cooning" for the white man because they are (and I quote) "talking bad about THEIR OWN PEOPLE". So the educated black person and the thug are the SAME PEOPLE based solely on their skin color, fvck their difference of character, values, ambitions, motivations, etc, just because they are both black (which they had no control over) they are THE SAME PEOPLE. Plus what also makes this more insane, is that let's say they are the SAME PEOPLE, isn't stupid behavior....stupid behavior? If they were YOUR PEOPLE wouldn't you be tougher on them getting their act together than you would anybody else? As a result, if you seen them doing dumb shyt, wouldn't you speak out about it and yell at them about it??

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the logic of Pro Black people. Look up my favorite Pro Black guy, Dr. Umar Johnson lmao! Look up this guy, this guy is the biggest disingenuous piece of shyt I have ever seen lmaooo.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
I wonder if this dude was a liberal... 42 year old man, can't fight and is the sole white man on a train full of ghetto looking black people in a bad area... where is the common sense?
He reminded me of the type of person who would have gotten mad if I had tried to sell him a ticket to an mma fight, because that type of thing was barbaric. Martial arts is just foolish, uneducated violence, and no one who studies it would ever be able to use those skills in real life.

I taught my favorite martial arts move to my grandma, and she has pulled it off successfully in real life. It's called a "break fall," which is how to fall down without getting hurt. I've used that one a lot, too.

As an MMA promoter, I would love to go to China to put on a show, and let all the wacky kung-fu styles fight American meatheads. Maybe the Chinese government would pay for it all if I set up the American fighters to lose, so it would make good propaganda for state TV.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
If I lived in the states, you better believe I'd have a noisy cricket. Anyone not carrying in the USA has got their head in the sand. I wonder if this dude was a liberal... 42 year old man, can't fight and is the sole white man on a train full of ghetto looking black people in a bad area... where is the common sense? If I were an American, I certainly wouldn't be living near the inner city. Much rather sell Ice Cream off a battle mountain than ride trains with these monkeys. I can't believe not ONE person stood up in his defense...not one. Sickening.

I know a guy, a white liberal academic, short and thin that told me he would rather let someone beat him up then cause harm to another human being. He describes himself as a 'live and let live' kind of guy. This is the majority of the white AMERICAN men I run into.
I think a lot of liberals believe, consciously or unconsciously, that as long as they are "tolerant" or "not racist," then NO harm can ever come to them. As long as you are "open-minded" and never think anything derogatory about someone that is different than you, then you will NEVER be harmed.

You can also visit ANY country in this world, and as long as you are a peaceful pot smoking hippie, you are absolutely safe lol.
 

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