Male overpopulation and lost a lay on purpose

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Yes, joverby the problem is that half of these threads seem similar, because you guys don´t read it totally.

"Just re-stating the whole, girls just have to be hot while guys need to actually have character and be good-looking. We know this stuff."

That´s not even similar to what I said sorry. And I also don´t believe that.
 

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sstype said:
If you're tired of dealing with hoes and want someone real....then stop giving these b*tches your attention, find a girlfriend and get on with your life.
Do you not read others' field reports or game girls yourself enough to know that trying to find a girl that is GF material and wants to be your GF is like trying to find a hen's tooth?

Get real guys....this isn't Entourage.....we're not surrounded by tons of hot, fit, fun, sexually available, flirty women who will happily leave our place the next morning. You guys want that, quit wasting your time here and go become a celebrity.
There is some of that mentality here, but most of these guys are complaining about UG fatties acting like they are too good for most any guy, average girls flaking, playing games and cheating. And so it's not a matter of guys having expectations too high, but the other way around.

Otherwise understand that you're dealing with other human beings, not objects to be won or conquered. This isn't learning how to hit a baseball or repair a car or beat Call of Duty. People are not a "game." There are no rules or laws that govern their behavior. People have emotions, feelings, desires, good/bad habits, insecurities, hopes, dreams, all which can change unpredictably. They aren't put on this earth in anyway to satisfy you, massage your ego, or make you happy. their default M.O. is to look after themselves first, regardless of whether that includes you or not. And likewise, you don't owe anyone anything either.

"Don't wish the game was easier, realize there is no game and stop giving a f*ck"
If that were the case that women were just random then all guys would get about the same results. Fact is a few guys get most of the women and most guys get very few. There must be some universals of attraction. Again, you are just repeating the claim that guys are complaining about not having a harem of hot women as their sexual servants when that couldn't be further from the truth.

And IMO, what's worse than the guys that complain about women is the guys that complain about others complaining about women without offering any useful or actionable advice. Suggesting to buy hookers or to wish you were "better" does not constitute advice.
 

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sstype said:
At the end of the day.....this issue has little importance in the grand scheme of things. Lamenting about the plight of the casual-sex seeking male is not going to win you any sympathy or advocacy to your cause outside of this forum.

Women will continue to be out-of-shape, entitled, b*tches and there's nothing we can really do about it. Obsessing over something out-of-your control is pointless.

You have many options as an average guy..... quit dating b*tches, go gay, pay for it, become rich/famous/buff, move somewhere with better women, or stop chasing a*s and get a girlfriend which meets your expectations.

My point being, if you really want fresh pvssy that badly then figure out the easiest, least hassle way to get it and then get on with your life.
Yep, nothing will be changed, specially if guys, keep treating them as if they were the sh*t, or if guys keep approaching ugs.
If we made their lives a little more difficult, they would have to try harder. But no, because most of us can´t control our urges, "we" end up lowering our criteria, so the average guy pulls a fat, a guy who is an 8 pulls a 6, a 10 guy goes for a 7 etc.... do you know why they go for higher (than hers) quality guys because we let them. Tell me you can´t do something about that.

Threads about tips, and ways to get hotter girls, I´ve wrote a bunch.

I also don´t like field reports, or cold approach, so I don´t read those threads. In my view cold approaching is stupid, that´s just what it is... And I´m not gonna go there and tell the guys to go out more and have some friends.

Anyway, I don´t have to justify anything I write here, as long as I´m not offending any user, and the topic is sosuave related. Call desdinova or rollo if you don´t like these threads :)
 

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You guys are complaining about sh1t that's completely out of your control, which is why it's sutpid to complain about it. You're b1tching about how other dudes should'nt be pedestaling these UGs etc. But the fact remains that they do, and they will. You can't stop it.

So you need to learn to adapt. I'm not really sure how I do it. I just see a girl I'm attracted to and I'll talk to her and let it roll from there. Just put yourself out there and continue to do the basic things, hobbies / working out etc. But remember to keep trying and don't stress over things you can't control.
 

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joverby said:
You guys are complaining about sh1t that's completely out of your control, which is why it's sutpid to complain about it. You're b1tching about how other dudes should'nt be pedestaling these UGs etc. But the fact remains that they do, and they will. You can't stop it.

So you need to learn to adapt. I'm not really sure how I do it. I just see a girl I'm attracted to and I'll talk to her and let it roll from there. Just put yourself out there and continue to do the basic things, hobbies / working out etc. But remember to keep trying and don't stress over things you can't control.
I agree, all good points and basically true. But what is the harm and why should it bother anyone if a few guys want to vent or point out why the game is as difficults as it is? Maybe it helps some to realize that it's not all their fault and that they're never going to be "good" enough in a system that is stacked against them. And hey, it's not totally useless spreading the word that the system is stacked against men. The mainstream media tells it the other way around. A lot of guys actually believe the things that are working against them are the way it should be. If more DJs were in places of power and influence the world would probably be a better place for men :). OK I wasted enough posts on this topic.
 

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And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Stagger Lee said:
And IMO, what's worse than the guys that complain about women is the guys that complain about others complaining about women without offering any useful or actionable advice. Suggesting to buy hookers or to wish you were "better" does not constitute advice.
I'm not responsible for the state of affairs in the dating arena. All I said was that it was useless to complain and offered simple alternatives. If it's not good enough advice then I don't what else to tell you. I can't change how women behave anymore than you can. No Need to chastise me for pointing that out.

If you're really passionate about this, feel free to demonstrate or protest in public. Write an article to your local newspaper. Start an organization with like-minded men demanding equal dating rights. Take action if it really means that much to you to rely on other people for your happiness.

Peace out.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
And IMO, what's worse than the guys that complain about women is the guys that complain about others complaining about women without offering any useful or actionable advice. Suggesting to buy hookers or to wish you were "better" does not constitute advice.
What solution are you offering? cause I really don't see you offering an alternative. Getting a girlfriend isn't hard nor is getting laid. Now Getting a certain type of girl or laying a certain type of girl maybe a bit tougher depending on various variables i.e.(quality type, how tall, body shape, personality etc).

The truth is only on this forum are guys complaning so adamantly about lack of success. Yet You go to forums like RSD or StyleLife Academy and guys have FR's meeting/laying tons of chicks and guys even meeting their G/f's s on the field why is that?

I tell you why, cause their taking Action it's really that simple. Wanna get laid? hit the field, put yourself in position to meet women, do nightgame/daygame approaches, expand your social circle, online gaming etc. Still not getting laid? take a honest look at yourself, are you the type of man that women wanna be with or not?. Right now personally I know I have to work on getting back in shape, my game is fine. Even with being overweight I still pull chicks, sure they aren't as hot as a couple years ago but I'm still getting tail!

The truth is you guys need to step your game up, a lot of guys on here claim to have it together but the truth is, some guys still have psychological trauma, self-esteem issues, confidence, resentment issues, lack of confidence, bitterness etc whatever it maybe regarding women and/or their life. How do I know? cause I was one of those guys, and I have hit the field with guys on this site(and others) as well. Who are good looking, great job, going to school but aren't successful with women and blame their lack of success on the same crap you guys are when in reality they are screwed up.We live in a society were no one wants to take responsibility for their failures, it's easy to blame someone else.

So yeah go ahead cry and moan about women being entitled, make more threads and jerk each other off in mental masturbation of group theory none of you guys besides a few (Joverby, SS) are offering anything positive in this thread if you wish that you'd rather be gay. There other websites that can help you with that. Sosuave ain't it
 

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I'm not the one complaining about other people threads in the first place and claiming it is easy to get lays and GFs.

And just because someone doesn't complain and goes out and does approaches that doesn't mean they are getting anything. I've seen a lot of approach monkey PUAs who never complain and never get anything. And just because someone complains about women that doesn't mean they are not going out and not picking up.

My whole point is why do some guys have to complain about threads they don't like? Why does it bother them so much? Worst of all why do they have to assume that only imperfect guys complain and that you have to be perfect to get girls? A lot of community guys sure like to attack other guys and justify and pedalize women. Anyway how many ways is this going to be argued?
 

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Stagger Lee said:
I'm not the one complaining about other people threads in the first place and claiming it is easy to get lays and GFs.
bUT YOUR NOT OFFERING ANY SOLUTIONS I HAVE SINCE POST #1, in essence your just prepuating the drama then
And just because someone doesn't complain and goes out and does approaches that doesn't mean they are getting anything. I've seen a lot of approach monkey PUAs who never complain and never get anything. And just because someone complains about women that doesn't mean they are not going out and not picking up.
Excuses, excuses, excuses, funny how you only talking about approaching. As I mentioned if you put yourself in positions to get laid. It's more then just approaching, Expand your social circle, Online Gaming(TO supplement your game), get a hobby etc. And even if you just approach if you dedicate yourself to getting better you will improve, you may not improve right way but eventually you will. I went out with a guy on this forum. The first 7 months he was too scared to approach. Eventually he got a number close a couple months later he got laid. Last I heard he was banging his FB whose got a smoking bod. It took time and dedication but he is better now then he began. Got a haircut, changed his style hit the gym(he's got a 6pack now) and guess what he wasn't online mopping about his lack of success he was out on the field and he improved!
My whole point is why do some guys have to complain about threads they don't like? Why does it bother them so much? Worst of all why do they have to assume that only imperfect guys complain and that you have to be perfect to get girls? A lot of community guys sure like to attack other guys and justify and pedalize women. Anyway how many ways is this going to be argued?
Once every two weeks or so there is a thread like this. It gets old because

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1820362

and if your perfect then why would you complain? I mean if your a "perfect guy" then you wouldn't need this site now would you?

I'm not gonna go back and forth with you guys the mantra of self-improvement on this site works their 1000's of stories told and untold which prove it!
 
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