make eye contact, make her the center of attention lol

[Mrpua]

most people believe "make eye contact, make her feel important"
lol
in my experience, that doesn't work. what does work is doing the opposite.

I know someone who when talking to a girl, takes out his cell phone and just makes it look like the phone is more important than her. not intentionally, that's just his personality, he truly thinks running his business on his phone is more important than being polite to this girl.

occasionally, his phone rings in the middle of the conversation so he takes out the phone and starts talking. like "you're not that important"

about eye contact: no intense eye contact. the girl is talking, the guy is checking out other girls who are passing by. again, "you're not that important"

he wins.

 

[HankHill]

In what setting? this works if you're at a bar and you strike up a conversation with someone sure...but if you're on a date where you invited her this will backfire.

 

[zekko]

This is actually a very old, very fundamental PUA tactic. Although I've never heard of using a phone before, that's a new wrinkle. But putting your attention elsewhere than on the target, that not only makes the target seem less important and want to earn validation, it allows you to be indirect and she will not suspect she is being hit on (if done correctly).

There are different ways to skin a cat. I'm not that fond of this approach because it seems fake to me. You're pretending not to be interested in her. Of course, most PUA tactics are fake to some extent, so pick your poison.

 

[sosousage]

theres some truth in it but it also will be very boring date

 

[mrgoodstuff]

This is actually a very old, very fundamental PUA tactic. Although I've never heard of using a phone before, that's a new wrinkle. But putting your attention elsewhere than on the target, that not only makes the target seem less important and want to earn validation, it allows you to be indirect and she will not suspect she is being hit on (if done correctly).

There are different ways to skin a cat. I'm not that fond of this approach because it seems fake to me. You're pretending not to be interested in her. Of course, most PUA tactics are fake to some extent, so pick your poison.

It may be "fake" but with the Advent of social media a man needs to be more strategic with his attention.

Making her the center of the universe doesn't work like it used to because most are bigger narcissists than ever and AFC already does this.

 

[Mrpua]

In what setting? this works if you're at a bar and you strike up a conversation with someone sure...but if you're on a date where you invited her this will backfire.

I meant like approaching a stranger at a bar.

It may be "fake" but with the Advent of social media a man needs to be more strategic with his attention.

Making her the center of the universe doesn't work like it used to because most are bigger narcissists than ever and AFC already does this.

agree with this, more narcissists than ever before. especially the girls that do duck face and take selfies to show their 1000 "friends" that they have never met.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I meant like approaching a stranger at a bar.



agree with this, more narcissists than ever before. especially the girls that do duck face and take selfies to show their 1000 "friends" that they have never met.

Plenty of other suckers to give them an excess of attention. Hoez these days use one guy for attention, another for help and favors, and another to come over and fvck.

 

[Alvafe]

It may be "fake" but with the Advent of social media a man needs to be more strategic with his attention.

Making her the center of the universe doesn't work like it used to because most are bigger narcissists than ever and AFC already does this.

I don't think being respectable to someone you invited is making her the center of universe, what you really should be doing is if you invited her she came and then start to spend all her time on her cellphone, you should get up and leave, don't complain about the social media, use it to gauge interest from her, taking her cellphone when she is with you in the middle of something is not what you want

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't think being respectable to someone you invited is making her the center of universe, what you really should be doing is if you invited her she came and then start to spend all her time on her cellphone, you should get up and leave, don't complain about the social media, use it to gaunge interest from her, taking her cellphone when she is with you in the middle of something is not what you want

You can agree to leave cell phones in the car. The only exception is if she has kids that may call .

If she's Facebooking on you get up and leave.

 

[zekko]

Making her the center of the universe doesn't work like it used to

Whoah, only a fool is going to make some chick the center of his universe. Keep the proper frame and you can still come from a place of authenticity.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Whoah, only a fool is going to make some chick the center of his universe. Keep the proper frame and you can still come from a place of authenticity.

I was saying to let her "feel" like that. Not to make her your center. We shouldn't even make them feel like it. We need highly interested babes that will do much of the pursuing.

 

[ohrein]

Eye contact should be more about confidence and power. It depends how you use it. If you're listening to everything she's saying, leaning in on the table and smiling like a doofus, then your eye contact will portray adoration. If you are leaning back and listening, making "normal" eye contact, then hold intense eye contact when you're speaking to make a point, it will portray confidence and power.

I think any games in which you're not making eye contact to appear disinterested require a woman who's already very interested in you and will probably just hurt the game of guys just starting out. Plus as @zekko said, being fake isn't a good way to run game. You should be aiming for congruent game that matches who you are and what you want to be.

 

[zekko]

I was saying to let her "feel" like that. Not to make her your center. We shouldn't even make them feel like it. We need highly interested babes that will do much of the pursuing.

I think the idea is to show some interest initially, put our best foot forward, and get the number. I don't care what PUAs say, if you are wanting her number, you are showing that you are interested. That's okay, most girls will tell you that a guy making the first move is attractive. Then maybe you can drop back a bit, and see if she pursues.

I don't see that as being fake, because you are genuinely wanting to see if she responds with an acceptable interest level. If she doesn't return the interest, chances are she's a waste of your time.

I think any games in which you're not making eye contact to appear disinterested require a woman who's already very interested in you and will probably just hurt the game of guys just starting out.

That's what I was thinking, she has to be attracted to you for that to work. If she isn't, she probably won't even notice your casual disinterest.
Another problem with this "distracted" approach is that you aren't really being present in the moment with her. But like I said, there are different ways to skin a cat. It's just a question of what works for you, and with your personality.

 

[wifehunter]

Stop giving a fukk, is all you need.

Maybe try needle point, or golf?

I know, I know ...basket weaving!

 

[greatsnake]

more troubles arise when you overthink it. Just put yourself (not give a flying fuxk) first and everything follows.

 

[Building_and_Loan]

most people believe "make eye contact, make her feel important"
lol
in my experience, that doesn't work. what does work is doing the opposite.

I know someone who when talking to a girl, takes out his cell phone and just makes it look like the phone is more important than her. not intentionally, that's just his personality, he truly thinks running his business on his phone is more important than being polite to this girl.

occasionally, his phone rings in the middle of the conversation so he takes out the phone and starts talking. like "you're not that important"

about eye contact: no intense eye contact. the girl is talking, the guy is checking out other girls who are passing by. again, "you're not that important"

he wins.

This tactic, like most other tactics, will pretty much only work if you're incredibly attractive.