@Ranger since you decided to take the low road fine let's get into it. it will be instructional for some of the younger guys who don't know how to deal with basic rhetorical attacks.
Firstly you said more accurately. Implying my statement was wrong and that you are correct. If you look at my post history you will see I have never corrected any of the senior guys. It's a matter of respect. true leaders build up and look for commonalities they don't tear down.
'More accurately..' also encapsulates a couple of basic rhetorical tricks. it's trying to impose a position of authority i.e. capture the frame. You are sitting in judgement therefore you must be the voice of authority.
it also implies that the discussion as a matter of fact and that you have the facts.
Since the topic of discussion was experiential and therefore subjective this is patently false
Then in your next reply you selectively respond to my comment. I didn't say alpha I said 'internet alpha'. Now I doubt many people here would unfer that I thought that is a term of praise. Then you say Alpha is a ridiculous word. Implying I believe in ridiculous words. So you just used selective quoting Straw Man argument and value labelling. Which amounts to an ad hominem attack that is playing the man not the ball.
I won't debate anymore since you just leachedto 15 minutes of value out of my life. What I was trying to say is that you could be a really great contributor here if you dropped the Elder Statesman persona your attempting to cultivate.
I come here to help the younger guys as I was helped and to have open discussion in a safe environment which means being open to the possibility that my views are wrong or incomplete. But I don't respond well to cheap shots and intellectual laziness. What are your motivations?
I implied nothing. In no way was I attacking you or anything or anyone. I do not like how the word alpha is used in the community is all. I prefer masculine/feminine, dominant/passive.
The entire premise of this thread is about the “red flags” of women. It is based on the wrong model.
In a passive man’s model, he finds himself subject to the whims of women in some instances. Thus he feels compelled to warn “other men” of the dangers.
This is fundamentally flawed in that his passiveness in the face of a woman’s antics does him harm.
In the dominant man’s model, the man is already positioned, by default, in a more solid position in authority. He is less influenced by a woman’s antics. In most, if not all situations, he is relatively uneffected and none or very few of her antics have force.
The problem arises because a passive man has no real subjective understanding of the other side of men, dominance. As well, the dominant man has no real subjective understanding of how or why passive men get crushed so easily by 110 lb girls.
We all talk about investing and this and that but it does not change a man. None. Dominant men will eventually start yawning and eventually leave but the passive continually rehashes and rehashes but the change doesn’t happen inside of him. It’s a spinning wheel.
Passive men will never be “alpha”. But let me define that so we don’t get into trouble here. Criminals in prison aren’t alpha. They tried but failed. Alpha is a bad ass but not the way most think. Alpha is a self awareness. Validation mostly comes from winning and battling. Not some stupid debate. That couldn’t be more beta/passive.
A dominant would’nt give warnings and pitfalls in an effort to “help”. He would tell a man to stay his course no matter what. That all his success and failure is in his hands. Any blaming of others will not be tolerated or accepted as excuse.
Leadership.
Alpha is not the ability to have a high lay count. That’s really stupid. Dominants do not care about lay counts. In fact, I have no idea how many women I’ve slept with. I can make a good guess.
I have my own findings on a lot of this. Reading thousands of posts. Nothing changes. There is no such thing as “unplugging” until a man admits that his whole life has been a lie. Admit to himself that his choices burned up years of the life or wrecked part of it.
Let them that’s gonna make it, make it and let those that won’t make it, die out.
I will keep the really hard core truths to myself as it’s inappropriate to talk about.
You are not required to believe a damn thing I’ve said. In fact, don’t. I kinda like it that way. AND, it won’t change a thing.