MAJOR Field Report: Don't You Dare Not Look At This!

Tryin to Grow a Chin

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BACKGROUND

Another ****ty day of back-breaking labor was compounded by the failure of the bus driver to drop me off at my road when instructed to do so. I wound up getting stranded at the mall, still wearing my cement-stained work clothes and a lovely and tantalizing layer of filth. I was tired, hungry, and in a terrible mood. I walked through the mall to the other end to call for a ride.

HBHyper

This is a girl I have known for years. A solid nine, constantly attracting an ever-growing entourage of supplicating AFC's. Cynical, sarcastic, playful, funny, adventurous, sociopathic. The female equivalent of me. Chin Man is delighted to see her outside the vestibule and is excited about trying new techniques on an old acquaintance.

I had 'asked' HBHyper 'out' in typical AFC fashion about a year ago and was summarily rejected. About two weeks later she asked me out and for some reason I thought rejecting her back would heighten her IL.

I was wrong. She took it literally.

Rough Start

From the outset I knew I was in trouble. My appearance was less than ideal and I hadn't had an opportunity to prepare myself for a sarge. I was caught with my pants down.

Nevertheless, I did my damnedest to cope with these unfortunate circumstances. From the outset I negged, negged, negged, working in some minor kino by holding her arm and telling her she was a wimp. An endless legion of resident mall AFC's attached themselves to her like jellyfish. I quickly befriended them and asserted my dominance by making them hold my lunchbox, etc., or by flatly telling them, "You are going to do such-and-such."

I also realized at that moment that being perceived as dominant or alpha has as much to do with posture and voice tone as with what you do and say.

Takeaways and Qualifying

I had never achieved this level of rapport with so smokingly hot an HB so I decided to pull out all the stops.

I would ignore her for minutes at a time and while we walked through the mall I made a point of engaging in conversation with everybody in sight except for her. All the while the chump gang made overt and obnoxious attempts to gain her attention, which she largely ignored. I would display deep interest in what she was saying for brief moments and make incredibly witty remarks. Then ignore her again. I exploited all opportunities for kino.

I also experimented with push-pull qualifying. I told her, "Wow, you're really cool . . . although you are also annoyingly juvenile." I was unable to gauge her reaction.

Public Isolation

I lured her away from the mall with just me. At every step of the way I resisted her **** tests such as asking me favors. I refused to give her anything without getting something in return and even made a point of announcing that verbally. I playfully called her a wimp, a wuss, and a dork when she failed to match my bold acts of public audacity. Kino began to intensify, and was reciprocated by her.

Somehow or Other . . .

. . . we wind up back at my house. It was a tiring walk, about a mile, and we were hungry when we got there. I brought up some food and we ate on my bed while listening to a Peter Frampton record which I wound up breaking over my knee in disgust. She told my how much fun I was to watch.

Chin, The Coward: From Mack to Chump In Zero Flat!

After smashing the record I rejoined her in bed and proclaimed it to be nap time. I turn of the light and we settle into a spoon position. My confidence was somewhat shaken at this point because I hadn't expected to lure an HB9 into my bed.

She senses my reluctance and initiates kino. I reciprocate, including one notable instance where, after HBHyper had squeezed my nipple, I put my hand up her shirt and played with hers. Irrational nervousness caused me to back down instead of escalating.

We keep play-fighting and stroking each other and we were about to kiss when I noticed her labrette (sp?) piercing. Instead of just kissing her my inner AFC rose forth from limbo and made me ask her about it. The moment was ruined.

I continued to fondle her boobies and even put my hand between her legs ever-so-briefly. We also sucked on each other's necks and there was a lot of playful biting and sniffing. I know now, and even knew then, that she was begging for more, but basically I chickened out. Eventually she went home. It was established that we would chill again.

CONCLUSION

I am kicking myself in the nuts for *****ing out like that. Never in my life have I had so golden an opportunity with so fine a sex object.

Pros: Displayed confidence, C+F, negging, qualifying, takewaways, massive kino, humor, further developed rapport, established my sexuality beyond question with fondling and innuendos. Possible sense of mystery for holding back.

Cons: One or two awkward pauses. Some remarks of mine were unfunny and obviously forced. Failure to seal the deal when given the chance. Potential loss of interest due to last item.

I'd like to think that this wasn't a complete bust, that there is still a chance with this girl. If it is a lost cause then please tell me so.

Thanks in advance to everybody who can give me a detailed reply.
 
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I also realized at that moment that being perceived as dominant or alpha has as much to do with posture and voice tone as with what you do and say.


Good realization!
 

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Good stuff. Now that you went through this, don't make the same mistake next time! hehe. Don't kick yourself for it. You should reward yourself for doing what you previously had been unable to accomplish. You're making progress and THAT'S what is important.

I agree with the Supreme Player above me, heheh, that you are correct in your realization. If you haven't already, talk to a hot woman with your legs about shoulder width apart, and your hands on your hips with a somewhat relaxed posture. As if you're just slightly leaning away and keep your chest out a bit. Don't look down, just look her straight in the eye until she looks away. Don't start mean mugging her though, hehe.

You can say almost ANYTHING and she will still be like a little kitty. But to keep this posture up while still being ****y/funny and talking to her takes practice and confidence. Once you start talking to hot women like this just sit back and be amazed at the reactions you get.
 

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You may have unwittingly done the right thing

There have been a few occasions when I got a gal in bed on the first date, things went too far for her, and we didn't get it on again after that -- even though she was well pleased, and got off.

If things go too far, a gal who's not ready will freak, and see no way of turning back. People are used to escalation, and if a gal's gone further on the first date than she wants to on the second date, she might not want to see you again.

So you may have done the right thing without realizing it. Better to have her wanting more than to regret having lost control and gone farther than she was ready to go.
 

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Chin, I have a few questions. Who was this girl and how did the AFCs in the mall come into the picture? You knew her from before, but the guys all approached her without knowing her? Your story is very unclear.

"My confidence was somewhat shaken at this point because I hadn't expected to lure an HB9 into my bed." --Chin

I hope everybody on this board reads this and memorizes it. This is probably the #1 biggest problem with most guys on this board. They don't even EXPECT success. So when they get a chance of success, they royally fvck up. I've said it many times that most young guys only hope to talk to a girl and get her number. A real chance to get the puzzy is met with fear and failure.

Do not even try to approach a woman unless you are mentally prepared to carry through with it. Otherwise you will fail.

Jake
 

Tryin to Grow a Chin

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One or two of the pre-existing mallrats already knew her so their friends, who appeared on the scene more recently, took that as license to talk to her as well.

There is a whole subculture of loser kids who spend every waking moment hanging out at that mall.

Still, I can't believe I fvcked up like that. If it had been a 6 or less, as it typically has been in the past, I would have gotten the lay. Subconsciously, I perhaps don't believe a girl that hot could want me to fvck her. But now I realize I had some pretty tight game, and that was the whole reason I was able to get her into that situation in the first place.

I'm trying to figure out what was going through my mind, though. That was reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal stupid.
 

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Good work man, this is straight pimp style. You should have gotten her shirt off thats ALWAYS a must. Gotta expose those breastases.
 

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So you were layered with filth and managed to get her home.

Did you get to have a shower anywhere in this story? Maybe revealing your dirty, sweaty, stinky, ball sack would've been a bad idea anyway.
 

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I showered when we got there. I thought that would go without saying. I even wore a small towel so she could catch a glimpse of my ass.
 

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hey chinman,

you did all right in my book..stop kicking yourself in the nutz

there are 2 scenario's that could happen

1) you have built up more sexual tension for next time

2) you offended her by not going for the kitty when it was right in your face..possibly taking "masculinity points" away from you

Ive passed out on a few women before ..sometimes it built attraction..other times..I came off as a wussy chump

but no point in over analyzing it..learn from it..I dont think its a lost cause by the way
 

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what the fukk is that?

as for your question. Good Job!!!

I think you are kickin yourself too hard for this.

I think you overemphasize techniques too much (displaying the alpha male image, being ****y and Funny ect.) versus just BEING it.

You see things as I'm being ****y and Funny, I was doing this and this in order to be the alpha male ect.

instead of seeing things as,

She laughed at my jokes, she had a great time but I made sure she wasn't having too much fun or I made sure she doesn't look at the world on the pedestal of hers ect.

It has to be natural, you shouldn't be thinking, I have to use C+F, I have to Neg, I have to be the Alpha male, ect.

sides that

2 thumbs up.
 

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For the most part everything I did came naturally, with a few exceptions, and I wasn't even conscious of the techniques I used until I sat down to post the field report.

Update: I have been blown off. That was my only chance. God damn it.

Live and learn, I guess. I will never make that mistake again.
 

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The GREAT thing about this post is that you're learning. You're not beating yourself up sobbing how much of a screw up you thought you were, or anything like that. You had fun, played it...and played it VERY well i might add :)...apart from a couple of "minor details". Consider it a learning experience.

keep in mind that when a chick is at YOUR PLACE, YOU are in control...it;s YOUR territory...and SHE wants to be there. If you keep that in mind next time, it might be easier to get her off...the pedastal you put her on i mean :).

You are actually the opposite of me...if a girl is at my place, i can lay her SOOOOO easy...but my pick up skills need major improvement to GET the girl there...

Keep us updated!
 

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It happens to the best of us

Originally posted by Tryin to Grow a Chin
Chin, The Coward: From Mack to Chump In Zero Flat!

After smashing the record I rejoined her in bed and proclaimed it to be nap time. I turn of the light and we settle into a spoon position. My confidence was somewhat shaken at this point because I hadn't expected to lure an HB9 into my bed.
If youi're familiar with baseball at all, picture a pitcher just about to win the game of his lifetime. He is in the 9-th innin, ha gotten two outs already, his team is ahead by one run and he is one out from saving the game and giving his team the worldseries title.

His heart is racing at 100 miles an hour, his adrenaline is pumping and he is freaking out inside!! Yet outside he seems calm and chilled. He is this close to winning it all.....

...and he gives up a game tying run to the other team. Damn!!!

(I'm pissed at the Red Sox right now which is why I chose this example)

It happens to pitchers every year. Some will pull through like grand masters, and many will freak out. You know they can do it, they've done hundreds of times before, yet they fail to do it at the exact moment when they absolutely MUST do it.

So what does it take?

Do you have to have done it all before, ie. do you have to have experience? Of course, but it's not all.

Do you have to have confidence? Well, yeah sort of.

Does confidence come from experience? many times, yes but still....

What I think is the single most important factor in pulling off this kind of feat, is to
NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF YOUR MOTIVE!

This is an important concept that I have just begun to toy around with. If you were to ask yourself whenever self doubt begins to rise, "Why am I doing this?" what would the answer be? To get laid? To show off? To make a porn video?

What is the purpose of you doing the things that you're doing?

Anything goes, so if you expect me to give you a lecture on why it is wrong to think "I'm doing this to get laid" then keep waiting...
I think every purpose, no matter how selfish, still works. If it weren't so selfish it will work better, like for example "Im doing this to get laid and give her mind-blowing orgasms," but hey whatever works.

Now here's the most important lesson you'll ever learn.

Are you ready?

Here it goes:

Always have a default motive.

Did you get it?

What do I mean by default motive? Well it happens to so many of us, that we are time and time again faced with a completely new situation, and we don't know how to deal with it. In these cases many of us freak out, and we retreat to old ways of dealing with stuff, until we learn how to deal with it later, but that way many GOOD chances get blown.

Your default motive, is a motive you should have at all times to use, in these cases when you are faced with the dilemma of what to do next. Since in many situations that you're familiar with, you already know how to handle them to your advantage, there's a motive in there already.

But in new situations, the motive is not there. This is when you should default to your "default motive" Your default motive can be anything that normally drives you to do things. In many cases it is curiosity, as it is for me. So my default answer to "Why am I doing this?" is "To experiment and see what happens"

For you it may be something completely different. If you find that "having fun" drives you to get out of your house on a cold winter night when everything else tells you to stay in, then by all means answer the question "Why am I doing this" with "To have some fun!!!"

But remember that this has to be something that normally would drive to do crazy things, not just regular stuff. Curiosity WILL get me out in a cold winter night, but fun won't.

I hope my babblings make sense to you.
 

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Great Post Chin.


Wow - some great reading here - this is what we need more of on this site.

I think that this should be recomended reading for all young DJ's - hell this should be in the bible - why?

It brings up some really great points.

1) There's no substitute for experience.

No matter how good a DJ you are, Sh#t happens - when it boils down to it, Chin did everything right, but failed to close the puss. Why? Lack of exeprience. I'd say he's maybe been in a situation like this once or twice - maybe even never. He's probably not closed the deal very often, so lost it when it came down to getting to business. Lesson learnt. We've all been there at some point, but this chick was wanting it.

2) When opportunity knocks, open the door wide.

Always grab the opportunity. Chin had the chance but blew it. Sounds like he's not going to get another chance with this chick. She was probably hot and horny - or just wanting to get with someone at the time. Now it's over she's thought about it and is not interested. She wanted a quick lay, and didn'r get what she wanted. Lesson - hit it while you can.

3) Women want it just as bad as us.

Yeah - chicks want C#ck just as much as we want Puss.

I think you did a good job Chin. Good post. Good luck next time - and there will be a next time.
 
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