M-F --Do Friendship really exists?

[Maximummax]

Folks,
I watch TV a littlebit but not too much, Last night when i was free i stumbled upon this netflix tv show called Hoarders. Click on the first episode to see what they are all about.

The First episode was about two people, lets talk about this particular guy, he is single and not married and he has an issue of storing things badly. He collects things and stores in the house like forever, things like tables, chairs, lamps sofa's etc etc..

Along with him there were two female characters which are friends of him. All three people are friends for a long time, particularly two(M-F) are friends for more than 30 years.... :wave: 30 years :wave:

Have you guys ever seen any two people who are friends for a long time?
Do you guys think friendship exists in the current generation for that long time?

 

[Malcontent]

Are you asking if platonic friendship exists between men and women? I think a lot of time it looks that way on the outside, but there's usually some underlying physical/romantic attraction lingering. Most of the female friends I have had have either wanted to f-k me or vice versa. It seems to me these friendships usually exist with one-sided attraction/lust and the other person finds redeeming qualities in their admirer, but not enough to do the dirty deed. This is why I don't consider a chick with male friends (orbiters-- let's be honest-- all her guy friends are orbiters) to be a quality woman.

 

[Maximummax]

Are you asking if platonic friendship exists between men and women? I think a lot of time it looks that way on the outside, but there's usually some underlying physical/romantic attraction lingering. Most of the female friends I have had have either wanted to f-k me or vice versa. It seems to me these friendships usually exist with one-sided attraction/lust and the other person finds redeeming qualities in their admirer, but not enough to do the dirty deed. This is why I don't consider a chick with male friends (orbiters-- let's be honest-- all her guy friends are orbiters) to be a quality woman.

You are correct, i was talking about Platonic friendship. the bold part above seems more accurate. on the other side , If you wanna to f-k a chic and she doesn't have the same feeling she would have already moved away from you, as for her there is no point in associating with you.

 

[mrRuckus]

Why would I want to be a woman's friend? She has no idea what the categories mean or what the obligations are. She considers her dogs her children. Friends come after children. You can finish this thought.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Have you guys ever seen any two people who are friends for a long time?
Do you guys think friendship exists in the current generation for that long time?

One of my best friends is a female. The kind of friend you can not talk to for a few years, and then pick up right where you left off.

In fact, once, long ago, I got kicked out of a happy hour because I was too drunk and obnoxious, and she was in the bouncers face on my behalf.

However, one of the reasons it works is because she's been married to the same guy for as long as I've known her, and he's a pretty good friend as well...

and I know her parents pretty well, etc..

...AND...(most importantly)

She is not exactly easy on the eyes.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Max,
Male-Female non sexual friendships do exist...but rarely...the same as Friendships between people from widely different Cultures exist,but are not common...The reasons are similar in both cases there is a real communication problem...given a set of circumstances,that to you lead to a logical conclusion,the other party will often come up with a very different answer...The problems that life gives us are often emotional,These are unlike Mathematical Equations with objective answers...No in these cases you need help,someone who can bridge the communication chasm between the sexes...In such situations I have an Old friend,she is absolutely unerring in her judgement on the Female mind...Une Femme Plus Sage...but there is a Caveat,we both know,if I put a hand on her nasty all that trust would go out the Window.

 

[In2theGame]

IMO, No they do not. I have one female friend that i know for a long time and we talk as friends but she has had a thing for me for years. Majority of the time, the guy either likes the girl deep down or she likes him or... sometimes they like each other but are bonded by a relationship they are already in.

 

[Zunder]

...AND...(most importantly)

She is not exactly easy on the eyes.

End of story.

 

[FairShake]

I've known quite a few male-female friends. I have a handful of good female friends all of whom I'm closer to than any of my male friends. Guy friends I do things with but don't talk with much. Female friends I do things AND talk with.

One caveat. All of them have known me for a long time and have had sex with me in the past. I suspect that is why it works.

 

[Malcontent]

I've known quite a few male-female friends. I have a handful of good female friends all of whom I'm closer to than any of my male friends. Guy friends I do things with but don't talk with much. Female friends I do things AND talk with.

One caveat. All of them have known me for a long time and have had sex with me in the past. I suspect that is why it works.

And do you revisit sex with them on occasion? Or does it appear that sexual attraction has faded? How do their boyfriends/husbands feel about them hanging with you?

 

[backbreaker]

I have a female friend, outside of my wife she's my best friend really.

I'll say this, it's not a relationship I was capable of having 10 years ago. Because she is in fact attractive. She's not drop dead gorgeous or anything but she's really cute. But more than that, she'd make a great girlfriend, which is why we are such good friends. She doesn't do drama, she's a hard worker, we have the same sense of humor, we are both gym nuts, we are both entrepreneurs and she's really down to earth.


First of all, 10 years ago I took it as a hit to my ego if every girl that I thought was attractive did not want to **** me. I was not capable of having a cute female friend because I would take offense to the fact that she was not attracted to me.

I also think that my plate spinning days play a lot of part of my ability to restrain my physical attraction she's not the first female friend i've had since i've met my wife and i've never once hit on any of them. I think i would have a much different personality towards female friends i've i didn't seriously, seriously spin plates when i was single. There's no mystery to women anymore for me. While attractive, she brings nothing to the table i haven't had or don't' get from my wife, and my wife is pretty ****ing hot too lol. Plus while she's cute she's not the type of woman physically i generally go for. I like leggy petite ish woman and she's more ripped than i am lol


But the thing is, she IS attracted to me, she's said as much. And yes I'm attracted to her, she's an attractive woman, but there's just a line i'm not gonna cross 1. becuase i'm married, very very happily married and 2. she means too much to me as a friend even if i were single i would not date her.


It's odd but it works. she's engaged and i had to take Gino (her fiance) aside and say look bro, let's address the 800 pound gorilla in the room lol, i don't want your girl, we're really good friends and that's the extent of it. And she's had to do the same thing to my wife say look yes he's cute and **** but i'm in love with my fiancee, we just really get along. We went from fighting about her to now inviting them over our house and on vacations and **** lol


It can be done but the topic of attraction has to be ADDRESSED one way or the toher. Either by stating yeah i'm not attracted to you, or saying yes but nothing is gonna happen and you have to be cool with that. We're cool with that.

 

[FairShake]

And do you revisit sex with them on occasion? Or does it appear that sexual attraction has faded? How do their boyfriends/husbands feel about them hanging with you?

No I don't have sex with them anymore. I'm currently in a relationship as are many of them. Plus I get the idea they see me like a brother nowadays anyway as I do them. Enough time spent hanging out with any girl NOT fvcking and this will happen.

And yeah, their husbands/boyfriends are sometimes insanely jealous. Points given to my friends that they tell their significant others to fvck themselves when it comes to me. They knew me before and mostly likely will now me after.

 

[bmp2cpm]

I think the real question is what value is a female friend? I think an often overlooked strategy is to have lot's of female friends not for how they look, but for who they are as a person. Then use your new friendships to connect you to their hot friends and hot sisters.

Everyone here talks alpha, but have a lot going for you and be pre-vetted by your female friend and you can easily be in a situation where the friend's friend or sister is throwing herself at you. Never underestimate the power of pre-vetting.

 

[Julian]

I have a female friend, outside of my wife she's my best friend really.

I'll say this, it's not a relationship I was capable of having 10 years ago. Because she is in fact attractive. She's not drop dead gorgeous or anything but she's really cute. But more than that, she'd make a great girlfriend, which is why we are such good friends. She doesn't do drama, she's a hard worker, we have the same sense of humor, we are both gym nuts, we are both entrepreneurs and she's really down to earth.


First of all, 10 years ago I took it as a hit to my ego if every girl that I thought was attractive did not want to **** me. I was not capable of having a cute female friend because I would take offense to the fact that she was not attracted to me.

I also think that my plate spinning days play a lot of part of my ability to restrain my physical attraction she's not the first female friend i've had since i've met my wife and i've never once hit on any of them. I think i would have a much different personality towards female friends i've i didn't seriously, seriously spin plates when i was single. There's no mystery to women anymore for me. While attractive, she brings nothing to the table i haven't had or don't' get from my wife, and my wife is pretty ****ing hot too lol. Plus while she's cute she's not the type of woman physically i generally go for. I like leggy petite ish woman and she's more ripped than i am lol


But the thing is, she IS attracted to me, she's said as much. And yes I'm attracted to her, she's an attractive woman, but there's just a line i'm not gonna cross 1. becuase i'm married, very very happily married and 2. she means too much to me as a friend even if i were single i would not date her.


It's odd but it works. she's engaged and i had to take Gino (her fiance) aside and say look bro, let's address the 800 pound gorilla in the room lol, i don't want your girl, we're really good friends and that's the extent of it. And she's had to do the same thing to my wife say look yes he's cute and **** but i'm in love with my fiancee, we just really get along. We went from fighting about her to now inviting them over our house and on vacations and **** lol


It can be done but the topic of attraction has to be ADDRESSED one way or the toher. Either by stating yeah i'm not attracted to you, or saying yes but nothing is gonna happen and you have to be cool with that. We're cool with that.

Lets be real here eventually you two will smash..



edit- I cannot be friends with a female. If she wants to be my friend that ***** better come as a perk. Then again, im single.

 

[Malcontent]

I think it's a bad idea and I wouldn't date a chick with guy friends.

This topic comes up from time to time in various forms and usually turns into a war. It's beta to let your girl have guy friends/it's beta to try to control your girl/an alpha male wouldn't put up with orbiters/a real alpha's (quality) girl would ditch orbiters without him asking/an alpha would just laugh about orbiters because he knows his value exceeds theirs.

I know what I've experienced and I've learned to listen to my gut: Opposite sex friendships are sexually charged. With the right context, genitalia will meet.