lying tricep extensions / powerlifting

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While powerlifting, should I use a curl bar for skullcrushers or a/some dumbbells when doing lying tricep extensions?

I'm going to ask an older bodybuilder that supervises the school gym, but I'd like a second opinion.

I know about dips and pressdowns, I have my routine, and I don't want any newbie advice on what they think.

Thanks. -T
 

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You should really stick to the big compound lifts when powerlifting, rather than isolation movements. Regardless of that, use a curl bar.
 

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If your powerlifting you shouldn't be doing isolation exercises. They're a waste of your time. A curl bar will do fine for both skull crushers and tricep extensions. Barbells (one in each hand) also work well for lying tricep extensions.
 

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If you choose to use isolation movements because you've maxed out on compound movements and can't make progress until your complementary muscles catch up, then you would go barbell first, then dumbbells. The barbell allows for greater maximal weight. I prefer the curl bar, because of the angle, WHEN I did them. The dumbbells always seemed like a chick exercise because they (women) are too fearful of "getting big", "looking like a man," or doing big exercises.

If you do dips, bench, and the other major powerlifting exercises, you SHOULD be fine. My old coach had me on a power-bodybuilding routine, because that was the only way to keep newbies interested AND have them build a core body mass sufficient to lift heavy poundages. However, our primer exercises in the morning (5am) were abs, reverse hamstring lifts, good mornings, and then lifts with the bar. After about 20 minutes of that, we jumped into the main lifts, being squats, deads, benches, pullups, etc. If we were sluggish in one area, THEN we jumped to supplementary work to improve the area that was lagging. To the powerlifter, as you know but some don't, abs, hams, back are the "core", they provide power to all else. The arms, calves, shoulders, lats, etc, get bigger as a result of the OTHER, more "massive" parts grow. The bigger parts, for the neophytes MUST grow BEFORE biceps grow. It would be impossible to have big arms without a big back, and impossible to have big arms without a big chest AND big back. The arms and calves ASSIST the major muscles, they don't CONTROL.

But back on topic, I stick with lifting heavy and burning out on those, IF i needed to, I might go to burning the tri's, but there's no need. Focus on increasing weekly, WITHOUT going so bad that you can't get back into the gym and reach new levels.



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Eh... well that totally conflicts with the advice from the experienced lifter.

I myself am pretty experianced; I'm 6'1", 205 lbs, and I just put up on bench 265 for 6 times with a max around 315-325. I've been bodybuilding for 2 years and was advised to switch up back to powerlifting for 13 weeks, which I'm doing now.

It's funny because the guy's name is Salvatore as well, but he suggested heavy single dumbbell lying tricep extension. He told me that all lifters that have been doing the barbell for extented amounts of time have trouble with their elbows, and I already have wrist and lower back problems, so that's the last thing I want.

That advice alone will keep me with the dumbbell... for now.

Like I said, I didn't need advice on anything else but an opinion on dumbbell or barbell just to see another POV. Everyone thinks they know what's right, so I pretty much ignored all that bull****. You guys wasted your time.

Thanks to everyone who gave their opinion on what I asked about. Peace.
 

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Sexual said:
He told me that all lifters that have been doing the barbell for extented amounts of time have trouble with their elbows, and I already have wrist and lower back problems, so that's the last thing I want
The reason why they have trouble with elbows/wrists is because they're weak (The joints, not the actual people). And it tends to be through the use of barbells, not EZ-Curl bars.
 
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