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Tenacity, I'm with you. I don't want a girl anywhere near my finances either, that's why I won't get married. It also helps me that I don't want children (certainly not at my age), because then the state would make me pay her money. What I'm doing is pretty much the only thing I can be doing while protecting my assets.

Tenacity said:
The writing is on the wall for me, I guess it's just not meant for me to have these fulfilling relationships that you guys speak of.
You probably don't want to hear this, but you have to have patience, you're only 31. I probably would have said the same thing at your age. I think I was 33 before I met a girl I deemed worth marrying.
 

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I agree with the point made about not willing to play games with her.

I haven't got time to meet other women friends. With some help on here this week...I told my girlfriend that she either stops seeing her Male friend or we're over.
 

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Tenacity said:
zekko and Colossus,

I'm waiting for you guys to tell me what you are getting from the chick that you didn't get when dating? Also, I'm waiting for you guys to tell me that she supports you, is loyal, cooks, cleans, or does something for you in terms of wanting to HELP YOU rather than just enjoying the ride of being with a dude with his shyt together. I understand you guys have your shyt together and you have a chick "riding" with you that is somewhat positive most of the time and doesn't have an attitude problem....I get that....I'm saying what does she do FOR YOU that she wasn't doing outside of the relationship?
You forgot to "re-ask" the question about loyality.

What happens when you no longer "have your sh!t together"? Then what? Is the woman with you because you're the best deal in town or is she "ride or die" for life no matter what happens. I can assure you "ride or die" is not the case.

If there is no loyalty at the end of the day.. then the LTR doesn't mean sh!t. It is simply a translation between two people.. similar to job at a company. Mutually beneficial.. but shallow. On top of that.. it has diminishing returns as your woman loses value over time (aging). So you are paying MORE for LESS the longer you commit. Similar to getting more responsibilities at your job each year with a decrease in pay over time.

Another question I need to ask zekko and Colossus is: CAN you be happy, whole and fulfilled in life without a LTR? If not.. what is the cause of your co-dependence on these inferior creatures (women)?

As long as you're both "living in the moment" and enjoying these women for what they are today... you're in a good place. However, if you really believe these women give a sh!t about you.. (ride or die) then you might still be a blue piller deep down.

Ride or die is the only situation where I would enter a LTR. She has to be so loyal that I could become broke, homeless, and brain damaged and she would still stick around. My time is wasted on being "monogamous" otherwise because a woman who isn't "ride or die" is basically just a glorified plate whom you have put on a pedestal for some stupid reason.


An old post from Burroughs:


Burroughs said:
Yes indeed this is where we lose 99% of men

Even the *take action* so called alpha men

Women are not stupid they seek men who pedestalize them in all forms athletes, lawyers, tiger woods:crackup:

Smart women let the foolish man think he is *alpha* but steadily drain his bank account and nutsack so he is on the hook for child support for 20 years...meanwhile the man stupidly thinks he is *alpha* because he *got the girl*:rock:
 

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Dear All,
I think you guys are losing the fundamental problem here...Why must Svex and companionship lead to marriage,unless you want a secure environment to raise Children in....THERE IS NOTHING ELSE...Nothing...Svex is an appetite like food...I like eating out,can my appetite never be satisfied until I buy a restaurant?...I enjoy the mental stimulation of reading must I buy a Book shop?...In Svex you try different varieties as you try the Bread from every oven and books by different Authors...What you enjoy in a Long Term relationship is as good as it gets! there is no need to move them in and marry them!
 

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Poon King said:
An old post from Burroughs:
u mean an old post from urself lol.


Poon King said:
You forgot to "re-ask" the question about loyality.

What happens when you no longer "have your sh!t together"? Then what? Is the woman with you because you're the best deal in town or is she "ride or die" for life no matter what happens. I can assure you "ride or die" is not the case.

If there is no loyalty at the end of the day.. then the LTR doesn't mean sh!t. It is simply a translation between two people.. similar to job at a company. Mutually beneficial.. but shallow. On top of that.. it has diminishing returns as your woman loses value over time (aging). So you are paying MORE for LESS the longer you commit. Similar to getting more responsibilities at your job each year with a decrease in pay over time.

Another question I need to ask zekko and Colossus is: CAN you be happy, whole and fulfilled in life without a LTR? If not.. what is the cause of your co-dependence on these inferior creatures (women)?

As long as you're both "living in the moment" and enjoying these women for what they are today... you're in a good place. However, if you really believe these women give a sh!t about you.. (ride or die) then you might still be a blue piller deep down.

Ride or die is the only situation where I would enter a LTR. She has to be so loyal that I could become broke, homeless, and brain damaged and she would still stick around. My time is wasted on being "monogamous" otherwise because a woman who isn't "ride or die" is basically just a glorified plate whom you have put on a pedestal for some stupid reason.

look at u playher man still spittin out this pansy ass fear sh@t afraid of bein n an ltr cuz ur afraid ur gonna lose a woman. u fear woman man thats wut it is. u afraid man thats clear as day. real ass men get in relationship cuz they aint afraid of no woman leavin his ass. u do a good job of projection n sh@t but i wanna set the record straight to the rest of the folks bout this sh@t u been tryin to promote again on here.
you's always talkin bout women not bein loyal n
sh@t droppin ur ass when the goin get tough.. let me tell u somethin playher man i been n sum of the poorest neighborhoods knowin ppl who dont have sh@t or lost their sh@t with a fu@ked up economy. i no dudes who lost their jobs n the woman stays with em to keep the family runnin. i no women who works 2 jobs an the dude workin 2 jobs himself to survive, the woman is more loyal than sh@t an she aint leavin his ass cuz she loves the man. thats wut a marriage n relationship is playher man. ppl work thru the sh@t n make it work thru the troubles. u spoutin this sh@t u dont no wut ur sayin man. ppl r strugglin out there an their woman is bein loyal to their ass supportin em. go to middle america n check out the loyalty of the women bein loyal. yea man sum women r not loyal but the majority r that were raised right n have respect for their man. i no u gonna talk sum sh@t bout me bein an angry beta or stupid projection sh@t u commin at ppl with so save ur time man. there r loyal ass women out therre man u jus need to finds one an not live in fear n hate n black n white themes ur whole life...done with my rant lol
 

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backbeat said:
u mean an old post from urself lol.





look at u playher man still spittin out this pansy ass fear sh@t afraid of bein n an ltr cuz ur afraid ur gonna lose a woman. u fear woman man thats wut it is. u afraid man thats clear as day. real ass men get in relationship cuz they aint afraid of no woman leavin his ass. u do a good job of projection n sh@t but i wanna set the record straight to the rest of the folks bout this sh@t u been tryin to promote again on here.
you's always talkin bout women not bein loyal n
sh@t droppin ur ass when the goin get tough.. let me tell u somethin playher man i been n sum of the poorest neighborhoods knowin ppl who dont have sh@t or lost their sh@t with a fu@ked up economy. i no dudes who lost their jobs n the woman stays with em to keep the family runnin. i no women who works 2 jobs an the dude workin 2 jobs himself to survive, the woman is more loyal than sh@t an she aint leavin his ass cuz she loves the man. thats wut a marriage n relationship is playher man. ppl work thru the sh@t n make it work thru the troubles. u spoutin this sh@t u dont no wut ur sayin man. ppl r strugglin out there an their woman is bein loyal to their ass supportin em. go to middle america n check out the loyalty of the women bein loyal. yea man sum women r not loyal but the majority r that were raised right n have respect for their man. i no u gonna talk sum sh@t bout me bein an angry beta or stupid projection sh@t u commin at ppl with so save ur time man. there r loyal ass women out therre man u jus need to finds one an not live in fear n hate n black n white themes ur whole life...done with my rant lol
Although you write lyk dis...you make a good counter to poon king.
 

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backbeat said:
u mean an old post from urself lol.

look at u playher man still spittin out this pansy ass fear sh@t afraid of bein n an ltr cuz ur afraid ur gonna lose a woman. u fear woman man thats wut it is. u afraid man thats clear as day. real ass men get in relationship cuz they aint afraid of no woman leavin his ass. u do a good job of projection n sh@t but i wanna set the record straight to the rest of the folks bout this sh@t u been tryin to promote again on here.
you's always talkin bout women not bein loyal n
sh@t droppin ur ass when the goin get tough.. let me tell u somethin playher man i been n sum of the poorest neighborhoods knowin ppl who dont have sh@t or lost their sh@t with a fu@ked up economy. i no dudes who lost their jobs n the woman stays with em to keep the family runnin. i no women who works 2 jobs an the dude workin 2 jobs himself to survive, the woman is more loyal than sh@t an she aint leavin his ass cuz she loves the man. thats wut a marriage n relationship is playher man. ppl work thru the sh@t n make it work thru the troubles. u spoutin this sh@t u dont no wut ur sayin man. ppl r strugglin out there an their woman is bein loyal to their ass supportin em. go to middle america n check out the loyalty of the women bein loyal. yea man sum women r not loyal but the majority r that were raised right n have respect for their man. i no u gonna talk sum sh@t bout me bein an angry beta or stupid projection sh@t u commin at ppl with so save ur time man. there r loyal ass women out therre man u jus need to finds one an not live in fear n hate n black n white themes ur whole life...done with my rant lol
I usually won't even engage you because you're an obvious troll. But you actually made an attempt at an argument this time. Its a stupid one.. but still a good attempt.

There is no "fear" moron. Where did you address a woman's declining value over time as she ages? Did you just miss that part? Do you just focus on the parts of my argument you want to see and ignore the rest?

Either attack my entire argument or attack none of it.

And pointing out that a woman will leave once her priorities change isn't "fear". Just like pointing car accident statistics isn't "fear". Reality simply is what it is. And there is no logical reason to commit to a woman who isn't committed to you. Any fool can see that. But per usual.. society needs ignorant betas to be the pawns of women. So its good that enough men are stupid enough to buy into "relationship" propaganda based on a world that no longer exists. 2015 is a different animal than 1915. But moronic betas can't comprehend this. Too bad.

If you need a constant children's movie "Everything will be all right Sunny boy" and "You can be whatever you want to be" motivational blue pill speech.. then you have a lot of growing up to do.

How about learning to string a sentence together before worrying about what "real men" do. Real men know how to write like they have more than 5 brain cells.:crackup:
 

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backbeat said:
u mean an old post from urself lol.





look at u playher man still spittin out this pansy ass fear sh@t afraid of bein n an ltr cuz ur afraid ur gonna lose a woman. u fear woman man thats wut it is. u afraid man thats clear as day. real ass men get in relationship cuz they aint afraid of no woman leavin his ass. u do a good job of projection n sh@t but i wanna set the record straight to the rest of the folks bout this sh@t u been tryin to promote again on here.
you's always talkin bout women not bein loyal n
sh@t droppin ur ass when the goin get tough.. let me tell u somethin playher man i been n sum of the poorest neighborhoods knowin ppl who dont have sh@t or lost their sh@t with a fu@ked up economy. i no dudes who lost their jobs n the woman stays with em to keep the family runnin. i no women who works 2 jobs an the dude workin 2 jobs himself to survive, the woman is more loyal than sh@t an she aint leavin his ass cuz she loves the man. thats wut a marriage n relationship is playher man. ppl work thru the sh@t n make it work thru the troubles. u spoutin this sh@t u dont no wut ur sayin man. ppl r strugglin out there an their woman is bein loyal to their ass supportin em. go to middle america n check out the loyalty of the women bein loyal. yea man sum women r not loyal but the majority r that were raised right n have respect for their man. i no u gonna talk sum sh@t bout me bein an angry beta or stupid projection sh@t u commin at ppl with so save ur time man. there r loyal ass women out therre man u jus need to finds one an not live in fear n hate n black n white themes ur whole life...done with my rant lol

What 32 year old man types like this?
 

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Tenacity said:
What 32 year old man types like this?
wut 31 yr old man still has occasional rage episodes?.. control ur anger man ur a big boy now.



Poon King said:
I usually won't even engage you because you're an obvious troll. But you actually made an attempt at an argument this time. Its a stupid one.. but still a good attempt.

There is no "fear" moron. Where did you address a woman's declining value over time as she ages? Did you just miss that part? Do you just focus on the parts of my argument you want to see and ignore the rest?

Either attack my entire argument or attack none of it.

And pointing out that a woman will leave once her priorities change isn't "fear". Just like pointing car accident statistics isn't "fear". Reality simply is what it is. And there is no logical reason to commit to a woman who isn't committed to you. Any fool can see that. But per usual.. society needs ignorant betas to be the pawns of women. So its good that enough men are stupid enough to buy into "relationship" propaganda based on a world that no longer exists. 2015 is a different animal than 1915. But moronic betas can't comprehend this. Too bad.

If you need a constant children's movie "Everything will be all right Sunny boy" and "You can be whatever you want to be" motivational blue pill speech.. then you have a lot of growing up to do.

How about learning to string a sentence together before worrying about what "real men" do. Real men know how to write like they have more than 5 brain cells.:crackup:

lol i knew u was goin to use sum projection n insults sh@t here. thats all u got playher man u got nothin to defend urself with except for insults n projection. n e smart man can see that they can see wut u r doin.

no playher man u the troll cuz many ppl here also says so n here besides me. ur whole argument is sh@t man. it makes no fu@kin sense. u r afraid of losin a woman cuz u have nothin to keep a woman round. so u invent this bullsh@t idea of women not bein loyal n sh@t to rationalize y u can get a woman long term n u tryin to get all these dudes to believe in ur bullsh@t theory u have.
let me tell u somethin playher man women out there commit to men an stay committed to men they love. they not committin to yo ass but they sure as hell committin to other dudes an that pisses u off. then u go off on this beta sh@t an men as pawns. wtf? men committed to women since man was first on earth. wuz they pawns too? shakin my fu@kin head on that one. ur bullsh@t blanket theory is no woman stays committed to men an that is bullsh@t man when women do stay with their man.

another thing playher man a woman that u love n have kids with n do sh@t with n share a life with don't lose no value to a man. she is like a fu@kin antique car. she is a valuable commodity to that man. like would ur old man say sh@t like that to his old lady thats ur mom? n women who take care of themselves keeps their value. u think men dont lose no value when they get old n sh@t getttin wrinkles losin their hair n sh@t. u think some 25 yr old chick wants sum old ass dude when she can get sum dude her age? all players play round n they settle down after they had their fun an they aint no fu@kin betas. clooney, eastwood any of those fu@kers fu@ked round an then got married after that dummy. they knew wut was up an they new when it was time to. an they aint no fu@kin betas. those dudes have real value not the sh@t ur fakin on here. not one of those dude have that sh@tass mind set like u got goin on. any of those fu@kers got married an had ltrs an wasnt sayin this pansy ass beta sh@t u been talkin bout. they was out busy getting sum pvssy not talkin the bullsh@t u been talkin bout day n an day out.

if ur the poon king playher man y aint u out gettin the poon instead of sittin ur ass online all day postin this sh@t lookin for attention? aint no poon king has the time to argue this sh@t day n an day out for hours. thats for damn sure lol.
 

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backbeat said:
wut 31 yr old man still has occasional rage episodes?.. control ur anger man ur a big boy now.






lol i knew u was goin to use sum projection n insults sh@t here. thats all u got playher man u got nothin to defend urself with except for insults n projection. n e smart man can see that they can see wut u r doin.

no playher man u the troll cuz many ppl here also says so n here besides me. ur whole argument is sh@t man. it makes no fu@kin sense. u r afraid of losin a woman cuz u have nothin to keep a woman round. so u invent this bullsh@t idea of women not bein loyal n sh@t to rationalize y u can get a woman long term n u tryin to get all these dudes to believe in ur bullsh@t theory u have.
let me tell u somethin playher man women out there commit to men an stay committed to men they love. they not committin to yo ass but they sure as hell committin to other dudes an that pisses u off. then u go off on this beta sh@t an men as pawns. wtf? men committed to women since man was first on earth. wuz they pawns too? shakin my fu@kin head on that one. ur bullsh@t blanket theory is no woman stays committed to men an that is bullsh@t man when women do stay with their man.

another thing playher man a woman that u love n have kids with n do sh@t with n share a life with don't lose no value to a man. she is like a fu@kin antique car. she is a valuable commodity to that man. like would ur old man say sh@t like that to his old lady thats ur mom? n women who take care of themselves keeps their value. u think men dont lose no value when they get old n sh@t getttin wrinkles losin their hair n sh@t. u think some 25 yr old chick wants sum old ass dude when she can get sum dude her age? all players play round n they settle down after they had their fun an they aint no fu@kin betas. clooney, eastwood any of those fu@kers fu@ked round an then got married after that dummy. they knew wut was up an they new when it was time to. an they aint no fu@kin betas. those dudes have real value not the sh@t ur fakin on here. not one of those dude have that sh@tass mind set like u got goin on. any of those fu@kers got married an had ltrs an wasnt sayin this pansy ass beta sh@t u been talkin bout. they was out busy getting sum pvssy not talkin the bullsh@t u been talkin bout day n an day out.

if ur the poon king playher man y aint u out gettin the poon instead of sittin ur ass online all day postin this sh@t lookin for attention? aint no poon king has the time to argue this sh@t day n an day out for hours. thats for damn sure lol.
You sound stupid (as usual).

Long beta rant proves malignant beta status. You also lack the brainpower to learn from my words because you seem to have a room temperature IQ.

You can choose to keep reading my posts and getting sand in your vagina if you want. Your choice.
 

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backbeat said:
i no u gonna talk sum sh@t bout me bein an angry beta or stupid projection sh@t u commin at ppl with so save ur time man.
Poon King said:
You sound stupid (as usual).

Long beta rant proves malignant beta status. You also lack the brainpower to learn from my words because you seem to have a room temperature IQ.

You can choose to keep reading my posts and getting sand in your vagina if you want. Your choice.
lol. i knew u was gonna come back with this angry beta sh@t n projection sh@t. didnt i tell all u folks that?..u got nothin playher man except for insults n projection n ur same ol yawn borin sh@t u post over n over bout women not bein loyal n men as pawns. after that u got nothin left n the tank man. all u got is same repeated ol lines u post. when someone challenges ur ass in wut u talkin bout u cant answer them. u jus call them beta n insult them n u cant defend on nothin. n e normal dude that knows his sh@t can give detailed answers on wut he knows. u cant do that cuz ur a fake man.. do u think dudes like mark wahlberg n dudes of his caliber feel like pawns for gettin married?...real alpha dudes that live in america too dont feel that way after they got wut they needed done. u got the vagina cuz ur a scared dude to get a women long term. no dudes like the ones i mention were p@ssies not to get married or have ltrs. they all have them, ur talkin sum sh@t playher man u dont no wut ur sayin n ppl no it too.

start helpin dudes out with sum good advice to get women. not this negative sh@t u been postin. if all dudes were like u no man would ever get laid. they would all sit online all day whinin bout how women arent loyal n sh@t. go out n meet sum women man n u will see they r not so bad an u will find a woman thats loyal to u instead a livin with all this negative bulls@t all the time. no woman wants to be with some downer dude. ask men for help in the forum since u need it. thats what its here for since u need help with women. that's sum tough love right there. take my advice playher man.
 

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wut 31 yr old man still has occasional rage episodes?.. control ur anger man ur a big boy now.
A lot of them, especially older guys. Unlike a lot of those guys though, at least I've admitted my issues and I'm confronting them instead of blowing my head off like many of those other guys do.
 

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backbeat said:
lol. i knew u was gonna come back with this angry beta sh@t n projection sh@t. didnt i tell all u folks that?..u got nothin playher man except for insults n projection n ur same ol yawn borin sh@t u post over n over bout women not bein loyal n men as pawns. after that u got nothin left n the tank man. all u got is same repeated ol lines u post. when someone challenges ur ass in wut u talkin bout u cant answer them. u jus call them beta n insult them n u cant defend on nothin. n e normal dude that knows his sh@t can give detailed answers on wut he knows. u cant do that cuz ur a fake man.. do u think dudes like mark wahlberg n dudes of his caliber feel like pawns for gettin married?...real alpha dudes that live in america too dont feel that way after they got wut they needed done. u got the vagina cuz ur a scared dude to get a women long term. no dudes like the ones i mention were p@ssies not to get married or have ltrs. they all have them, ur talkin sum sh@t playher man u dont no wut ur sayin n ppl no it too.

start helpin dudes out with sum good advice to get women. not this negative sh@t u been postin. if all dudes were like u no man would ever get laid. they would all sit online all day whinin bout how women arent loyal n sh@t. go out n meet sum women man n u will see they r not so bad an u will find a woman thats loyal to u instead a livin with all this negative bulls@t all the time. no woman wants to be with some downer dude. ask men for help in the forum since u need it. thats what its here for since u need help with women. that's sum tough love right there. take my advice playher man.
You're doing the same amount of "insulting" retard. There is nothing "alpha" about co-dependence. I don't care how you paint it.

And there is no point getting into a mature discussion with someone too stupid to understand logic.

Per Example:

Poon King: "Co-dependence is beta"

Backbeat: "Playher man u jus scarrred of women levin yo azz"

Poon King: "Women don't bring enough value to be worth total monogamy. Especially in 2015."

Backbeat: "Playher man u jus scarrred of women levin yo azz"


So what is the point of a discussion if you're just going to repeat the same sh!t? You have your mind made up. Therefore, arguing is pointless. Keep reading my posts and getting sand in your vagina. My posts will not change because you don't like them.

Nice try though. :up:
 
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