Spirit Fingers
Don Juan
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2005
- Messages
- 159
- Reaction score
- 4
Background
I’ve been on sosuave and ASF for a few years, and formerly posted under Delta Male. I used to be a big fan of standard ASF routine-based indirect game, but I’ve seen a huge improvement in my game in the past six months thanks to lots of field work and the teaching of Woodhaven and Dimitri. They are incredible PUAs and teachers, and I’m grateful to them for vastly improving my life.
My wing for this LR posts under Xysen. He’s also a Rapid Social Impact student – he took a bootcamp in NYC about a month ago. He’s shown incredible improvement – in a little over a month, he’s gone from being unable to approach to f-closing virgins same night. We have great wing chemistry because we were both taught by RSI, and because we’re also good friends outside of pickup.
Keys to Getting this Lay
-Dressing well – subtly standing out, but not peacocking to the point of looking stupid
-Excellent wing chemistry
-Opening with a situational opener, followed by my completely spontaneous and direct Natural Game
-Not being deterred by their broken English
-Kinoing right away
-Being playful, making them open up and have fun
-Not wasting time talking to the whole group
-Splitting the chicks up fast
-Turning her on physically with dancing
-Decisively isolating her to a couch
-Maintaining a playful party frame in the loud club, and a screening frame when it was quiet enough to talk
-Having no weird pauses or moments of indecision
-Tight qualification by giving sincere, genuine compliments
-Making out and feeling the chick up in the club to get her turned on
-Decisively moving for extraction
-Decisively splitting the chicks up at my place
Pre-approach
Xysen and I roll into the club early, around 10:30. There’s not too many people there yet. We’re psyched though – we’ve been waiting to sarge together for a month since the last time he came up to Boston, and I want to see how much he’s improved since his RSI bootcamp.
We’re both dressed well, subtly peacocked. I’m wearing black pinstripe slacks, a bright blue shirt, a silver necklace and a white and grey hookah shell necklace. I also have spikey tall hair, which makes me stand out more. He’s dressed similarly, with a dark purple shirt and nice jeans from Express.
As soon as we step in the club, we start opening girls and socializing. It’s a very loud techno club – you have to project strongly and pull the girls towards you in order to be heard. The good thing is that there are three clubs connected, and one of them has a good, quiet isolated couch area.
We are working direct game in the club, mostly with situational openers. Because of this, our opening percentage is low. This is a good thing though – it saves us from wasting time on girls who aren’t interested.
This set was our eighth or ninth of the night. By the time we spotted them, the club was in full swing and the dance floor was packed. These girls weren’t dancing though…they were leaning up against a wall, trying to look cool.
In the middle of the club, there’s three professional dancers in red, white and blue lingerie. I roll up to the girl on the right, put my arm on her shoulder, and ask which one she likes the best. Unlike most other sets, she doesn’t laugh at this – she points at the one in the white, and says she likes her, seriously, and asks me which one I like. I tell her that I like the one in white too, and that she has good taste in women and that she’d make a good lesbian. This is a little uncalibrated, she’s like “Noooo…” and turns away from me a little.
I step back a little, but still kino, and say, “Ohhhh that’s so cute, you’re getting all shy already. You’re not shy, are you? Because you look so fun.” This is a great reframe that I love to use whenever a chick doesn’t respond to something I say. It works so well because it shows that you’re not deterred by any little tests of your alphaness she may throw your way, and that you’ve assumed attraction. Also, it’s usually at least half-true…when the girls give you negative reactions, it’s as much because of their insecurity as because of anything that you did. That is why I also say that they look fun – the compliment takes away any real insecurities they might have had.
She laughs at this, and says that she is a little shy. I laugh at this, and put my arm around her and say that’s OK, we’re going to have FUN tonight. I ask her if she dances, and she says she doesn’t. So I say, you gotta bust out the moves, and I do a little demonstration, which she loves. Be careful doing this though – if you’re not coming from the right place, you will literally come off as a dancing monkey. Only do this if you love dancing like me, and you’re doing it to have fun with her, not to impress her.
Then, I grab her hand, and make her dance. She dances really dorky, but it’s cute. We do this for a little while, then I grab her hand and drag her onto the middle of the dance floor.
This entire time, Xysen was gaming her friend. We didn’t talk as a group at all, which was a good thing because it wasn’t necessary. The entire time, I barely acknowledged his girl. To this day, I don’t even know her name…lol. Such is the beauty of direct game. Not saying that you should do this all the time, but there are situations like this when you can.
On the dance floor, I’ve got my hands all over her body. It’s such an advantage to be a good dancer at parties and clubs…nothing gets girls turned on physically quicker. Of course, it shouldn’t be the only part of your game, but it will help it tremendously. I’m teaching her how to dance the whole time, and complimenting her whenever she does something that I like. We’re grinding to the techno, which actually is possible, and I’m running my hands all over her body and saying flirty little things in her ears. After a little while, I take her hand and move her next door to an adjacent club, which had the isolated couch area.
We sit down in the couch area with my arm around her, and now we can actually talk. I tell her that I’m having a fun time with her, and that she must go out to clubs a lot. She says no…it’s her first time clubbing. I ask her if she’s having a good time, and she says yes, smiling.
I tell her about my first time in a club, and how I was so awkward at first but ended up just throwing myself out on the dance floor and having a blast. This is a good positive story, as well as a DLV which helps her connect with me.
The entire time, I am maintaining a SCREENING frame. This is one of the most important concepts which Woodhaven and Dimitri have taught me lately. Instead of floundering around trying to DHV like most ASF guys, our conversation is driven by questions designed to screen her for qualities which I like in a girl. I usually ask a question or make a cold read designed to screen her, and then tell a story to explain why I find that quality desirable in a woman. I then qualify her if she answers the question correctly. You can also mix screening with humor/C&F. An example from our conversation:
Dan: You seem like a really fun person, but are you also smart and ambitious?
HB8: (in a Korean accent) Yes…I was homeschooled…my parents make me study very hard…
Dan: That’s good. I’m asking you because I’m looking for a girl who’s balanced – who can have fun, but also has her life together. Most people, either they’re really studious and study all the time, or they’re crazy party dudes and get drunk all the time. I like that you can do both…hey, you don’t get drunk all the time, do you? (more playful screening)
HB8: Nooo, no….well, sometime
Dan: Uh oh, I think you do! I’m going to have to be like your dad, and spank you when you do bad things like that (said in a gentle, playful tonality)
HB8: (laughing) Noooo….noooo
We talk like this, where I intersperse playfulness with serious screening questions. Screening questions demonstrate value better than any DHV story. With DHV stories, it’s usually fairly obvious that you’re trying to raise your value if you tell stories with the intention of DHVing. With screening questions, you are actually demonstrating high value behavior as opposed to trying to verbalize it subtly.
I’ve been on sosuave and ASF for a few years, and formerly posted under Delta Male. I used to be a big fan of standard ASF routine-based indirect game, but I’ve seen a huge improvement in my game in the past six months thanks to lots of field work and the teaching of Woodhaven and Dimitri. They are incredible PUAs and teachers, and I’m grateful to them for vastly improving my life.
My wing for this LR posts under Xysen. He’s also a Rapid Social Impact student – he took a bootcamp in NYC about a month ago. He’s shown incredible improvement – in a little over a month, he’s gone from being unable to approach to f-closing virgins same night. We have great wing chemistry because we were both taught by RSI, and because we’re also good friends outside of pickup.
Keys to Getting this Lay
-Dressing well – subtly standing out, but not peacocking to the point of looking stupid
-Excellent wing chemistry
-Opening with a situational opener, followed by my completely spontaneous and direct Natural Game
-Not being deterred by their broken English
-Kinoing right away
-Being playful, making them open up and have fun
-Not wasting time talking to the whole group
-Splitting the chicks up fast
-Turning her on physically with dancing
-Decisively isolating her to a couch
-Maintaining a playful party frame in the loud club, and a screening frame when it was quiet enough to talk
-Having no weird pauses or moments of indecision
-Tight qualification by giving sincere, genuine compliments
-Making out and feeling the chick up in the club to get her turned on
-Decisively moving for extraction
-Decisively splitting the chicks up at my place
Pre-approach
Xysen and I roll into the club early, around 10:30. There’s not too many people there yet. We’re psyched though – we’ve been waiting to sarge together for a month since the last time he came up to Boston, and I want to see how much he’s improved since his RSI bootcamp.
We’re both dressed well, subtly peacocked. I’m wearing black pinstripe slacks, a bright blue shirt, a silver necklace and a white and grey hookah shell necklace. I also have spikey tall hair, which makes me stand out more. He’s dressed similarly, with a dark purple shirt and nice jeans from Express.
As soon as we step in the club, we start opening girls and socializing. It’s a very loud techno club – you have to project strongly and pull the girls towards you in order to be heard. The good thing is that there are three clubs connected, and one of them has a good, quiet isolated couch area.
We are working direct game in the club, mostly with situational openers. Because of this, our opening percentage is low. This is a good thing though – it saves us from wasting time on girls who aren’t interested.
This set was our eighth or ninth of the night. By the time we spotted them, the club was in full swing and the dance floor was packed. These girls weren’t dancing though…they were leaning up against a wall, trying to look cool.
In the middle of the club, there’s three professional dancers in red, white and blue lingerie. I roll up to the girl on the right, put my arm on her shoulder, and ask which one she likes the best. Unlike most other sets, she doesn’t laugh at this – she points at the one in the white, and says she likes her, seriously, and asks me which one I like. I tell her that I like the one in white too, and that she has good taste in women and that she’d make a good lesbian. This is a little uncalibrated, she’s like “Noooo…” and turns away from me a little.
I step back a little, but still kino, and say, “Ohhhh that’s so cute, you’re getting all shy already. You’re not shy, are you? Because you look so fun.” This is a great reframe that I love to use whenever a chick doesn’t respond to something I say. It works so well because it shows that you’re not deterred by any little tests of your alphaness she may throw your way, and that you’ve assumed attraction. Also, it’s usually at least half-true…when the girls give you negative reactions, it’s as much because of their insecurity as because of anything that you did. That is why I also say that they look fun – the compliment takes away any real insecurities they might have had.
She laughs at this, and says that she is a little shy. I laugh at this, and put my arm around her and say that’s OK, we’re going to have FUN tonight. I ask her if she dances, and she says she doesn’t. So I say, you gotta bust out the moves, and I do a little demonstration, which she loves. Be careful doing this though – if you’re not coming from the right place, you will literally come off as a dancing monkey. Only do this if you love dancing like me, and you’re doing it to have fun with her, not to impress her.
Then, I grab her hand, and make her dance. She dances really dorky, but it’s cute. We do this for a little while, then I grab her hand and drag her onto the middle of the dance floor.
This entire time, Xysen was gaming her friend. We didn’t talk as a group at all, which was a good thing because it wasn’t necessary. The entire time, I barely acknowledged his girl. To this day, I don’t even know her name…lol. Such is the beauty of direct game. Not saying that you should do this all the time, but there are situations like this when you can.
On the dance floor, I’ve got my hands all over her body. It’s such an advantage to be a good dancer at parties and clubs…nothing gets girls turned on physically quicker. Of course, it shouldn’t be the only part of your game, but it will help it tremendously. I’m teaching her how to dance the whole time, and complimenting her whenever she does something that I like. We’re grinding to the techno, which actually is possible, and I’m running my hands all over her body and saying flirty little things in her ears. After a little while, I take her hand and move her next door to an adjacent club, which had the isolated couch area.
We sit down in the couch area with my arm around her, and now we can actually talk. I tell her that I’m having a fun time with her, and that she must go out to clubs a lot. She says no…it’s her first time clubbing. I ask her if she’s having a good time, and she says yes, smiling.
I tell her about my first time in a club, and how I was so awkward at first but ended up just throwing myself out on the dance floor and having a blast. This is a good positive story, as well as a DLV which helps her connect with me.
The entire time, I am maintaining a SCREENING frame. This is one of the most important concepts which Woodhaven and Dimitri have taught me lately. Instead of floundering around trying to DHV like most ASF guys, our conversation is driven by questions designed to screen her for qualities which I like in a girl. I usually ask a question or make a cold read designed to screen her, and then tell a story to explain why I find that quality desirable in a woman. I then qualify her if she answers the question correctly. You can also mix screening with humor/C&F. An example from our conversation:
Dan: You seem like a really fun person, but are you also smart and ambitious?
HB8: (in a Korean accent) Yes…I was homeschooled…my parents make me study very hard…
Dan: That’s good. I’m asking you because I’m looking for a girl who’s balanced – who can have fun, but also has her life together. Most people, either they’re really studious and study all the time, or they’re crazy party dudes and get drunk all the time. I like that you can do both…hey, you don’t get drunk all the time, do you? (more playful screening)
HB8: Nooo, no….well, sometime
Dan: Uh oh, I think you do! I’m going to have to be like your dad, and spank you when you do bad things like that (said in a gentle, playful tonality)
HB8: (laughing) Noooo….noooo
We talk like this, where I intersperse playfulness with serious screening questions. Screening questions demonstrate value better than any DHV story. With DHV stories, it’s usually fairly obvious that you’re trying to raise your value if you tell stories with the intention of DHVing. With screening questions, you are actually demonstrating high value behavior as opposed to trying to verbalize it subtly.
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