Low IL? Ride it out?

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Mr. Wise said:
Yeah, the ones I use for booty calls eventually know I only call them late at night when I'm drunk. These girls really don't stick around for very long in my experience. A little while ago, I had this one chick I only spent time with after drinking. She constantly responded to my booty calls. However, after I flaked on a movie date with her, that was it. She no longer answered my phone calls no matter what time of the day I called sober or not.

I rest my case - your behavior is NOT attractive to women and that is why they bail.
 

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jophil28 said:
I never thought that I would say this BUT I agree with ICKY mostly on this one.

Let me ask you this my man, would YOUR IL in a woman raise or lower after you saw her grinding another guy the next night after you had dated her ?

Again- would your IL shoot up or go south if she drunk dialled you frequently ?

You are shooting yourself down by your own crappy behavior. Heavy dinking and whoring around does NOT raise your sociall value. YOu are disrespecting YOURSELF in a large way. Act more like a grown man and her IL will return.

Quality women do not want men who act like idiots.
No doubt. If you've read my other threads, I clearly admit that when I'm out and drunk most all my relationship blunders occur. The trouble is that I like going out and hanging with the boys. I know what I do is wrong but it doesn't seem wrong at the time - understand? We go out, have fun and live for the moment - especially since it was NYE. If I could take back some of the things I did while intoxicated I would but that's not how it works. I need to maintain my self control while drinking with my buddies - I'm learning.
 

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jophil28 said:
I rest my case - your behavior is NOT attractive to women and that is why they bail.

yes, I do believe that in the post you're referring to, I was very unattractive. Like I mentioned above, I'm learning how to control this behavior. Besides, my new years resolution is to drop to single digit bodyfat percentage. I'll have to ease off on the booze to get there anyway.
 
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Mr. Wise said:
No doubt. If you've read my other threads, I clearly admit that when I'm out and drunk most all my relationship blunders occur. The trouble is that I like going out and hanging with the boys. I know what I do is wrong but it doesn't seem wrong at the time - understand? We go out, have fun and live for the moment - especially since it was NYE. If I could take back some of the things I did while intoxicated I would but that's not how it works. I need to maintain my self control while drinking with my buddies - I'm learning.
What a coincidence I happened to be drinking all the times I got dumped to.

And I have plans to go drinking tomorrow night... come to think of it good things have happened while drinking too so it evens out.
 

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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Mr. Wise said:
No doubt. If you've read my other threads, I clearly admit that when I'm out and drunk most all my relationship blunders occur. The trouble is that I like going out and hanging with the boys. I know what I do is wrong but it doesn't seem wrong at the time - understand? We go out, have fun and live for the moment - especially since it was NYE. If I could take back some of the things I did while intoxicated I would but that's not how it works. I need to maintain my self control while drinking with my buddies - I'm learning.
This is the way women rationalise their dumb behavior.

You are behaving like a high school dropout with a drinking problem . You want the adult rewards of connections with women but you want to "live for the moment:" - in other words you want to party hard and regret later , The woman that you are attracted to is clearly not inmpressed with the way that you conduct yourself.
You say that you are learning . What have you learned so far ? You do not even understand that it is NOT possible for you to maintain your self-control when you are wasted. If you could do that you would be doing it - GET IT ?
How do you plan to exercise this self-control ? More "will power "? More magical beliefs in the almighty "willpower " . Where are you going to get this willpower ? YOu are powerless over alcohol and you are denying that you cannot control your drinking and its affects ..

Guys like you only finish up learning the hard way or the AA way..

How old are you ? Was good ole Dad a drinker ? Mom perhaps ?
 

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This is the way women rationalise their dumb behavior.

You are behaving like a high school dropout with a drinking problem . You want the adult rewards of connections with women but you want to "live for the moment:" - in other words you want to party hard and regret later , The woman that you are attracted to is clearly not inmpressed with the way that you conduct yourself.
You say that you are learning . What have you learned so far ? You do not even understand that it is NOT possible for you to maintain your self-control when you are wasted. If you could do that you would be doing it - GET IT ?
How do you plan to exercise this self-control ? More "will power "? More magical beliefs in the almighty "willpower " . Where are you going to get this willpower ? YOu are powerless over alcohol and you are denying that you cannot control your drinking and its affects ..

Guys like you only finish up learning the hard way or the AA way..

How old are you ? Was good ole Dad a drinker ? Mom perhaps ?
Haha, you're reaching. I'm 33, mom and pop don't drink. I only drink when I go out with my friends, never at home and not that often anymore. I was speaking about the distant past (when I was in my 20's) while mentioning most of my blunders. What have I learned? A lot since then. Bottom line, I have a very stable life, do what I want and that's that. Learn the hard way? I can control my drinking without a problem. You on the other hand sound like you need a drink - lighten up.
 

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I can control my drinking without a problem.
Oh really! Your posts clearly paints a picture of early stage alcoholism. And your denial is a sure symptom of that disease.
YOu wrote the posts about your blunders which you made RECENTLY while under the influence .
It is your life man - not mine. Do whatever you want with booze and women, but if you post here you will get the truth shot right back at you, If you want pity and touchy feelly sympathy, try a girly site like LOve Shack.

So if I understand you correctly, most of your blunders with women have happened while you were drunk, BUt you do not have a drinking problem and you can "control your behavior without a problem " ..Huh ??

Just so I get this straight - are you a woman ?
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Oh really! Your posts clearly paints a picture of early stage alcoholism. And your denial is a sure symptom of that disease.
YOu wrote the posts about your blunders which you made RECENTLY while under the influence .
It is your life man - not mine. Do whatever you want with booze and women, but if you post here you will get the truth shot right back at you, If you want pity and touchy feelly sympathy, try a girly site like LOve Shack.

So if I understand you correctly, most of your blunders with women have happened while you were drunk, BUt you do not have a drinking problem and you can "control your behavior without a problem " ..Huh ??

Just so I get this straight - are you a woman ?

Right my posts refer to NYE! So yeah, I partied. I can control when I drink. ie. I don't drink everyday and since I don't drive when I go out, I don't worry about how much I drink, which is what I need to change. ie. last night I went out, had only 3 beers, completely sober at the end of the night. You have a LARGE imagination dude. But hey, thanks for your help - now shutup. As I read through this thread, you have not given ANY usable advice, only criticism, go back in the parlor and yell at your dog you stupid troll.
 
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Jophil come into my thread and lecture me about drinking, it wouldn't hurt me to listen...**cracks a beer
 

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It makes me laugh whenever someone pulls the "denial" crap. Of course someone is going to deny an accusation that isn't true. Lol.

And for what its worth, many many people binge drink, but aren't alcoholics.
 

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It makes me laugh whenever someone pulls the "denial" crap. Of course someone is going to deny an accusation that isn't true. Lol.

And for what its worth, many many people binge drink, but aren't alcoholics.
Well, I did do that a lot in the past, mostly during my college days, which is what I was referring to in the posts. Now my life is different, I'm not in college anymore and have a job that I have to be there awake and alert at 730am. I can't do the "binge" thing on a daily basis no more. As much as I enjoyed those days, they are over with. But yeah, when I go out on occasion now days, I get nice and drunk - especially when all my boys are with me, moreso on NYE. As far as being an alcoholic, I'm far from it, very far. So for this guy to come into this thread with false accusations and attempt to break me down like that without any intension to assist in a problem is mind boggling. He probably has nothing better to do, but it's tough to tell a guy that's 51 yrs. old to grow up. I guess age has nothing to do with maturity.
 

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I can't do the "binge" thing on a daily basis no more. As much as I enjoyed those days, they are over with. But yeah, when I go out on occasion now days, I get nice and drunk -
THERE is your problem - the stated facts are that you can no longer "binge on a daily basis" ...but nowadays you get , " nice and drunk " ...and your relationships with women are adversely affected when you are drinking .

What more is there to say? You are a drunk !

You can insult and belittle me if you wish ,but you have the problem not me. Name calling or insulting the messenger is not going to straighten out your mess of a life. You need to grab yourself by the nads, man up and get in the program.

I have been EXACTLY where you are now. I know the signs and the symptoms of alcoholism/ abusive drinking/ problem drinking - whatever you call it does not matter. LIke you, I also used denial and rationionalising to avoid doing something about MY problem. I never drank during the day. or on the job either BUT the truth was that drinking excessively was DAMAGING my life in many ways, so I quit - I tried to cut down and that failed so I quit. I was ceratin that my social life was finished and I would become a social leper. The opposite turned out to be the case..

I urge you to accept that you are in trouble with alcohol and seek a better way..
However, being a sober, stand up guy is NOT compulsory, so you do have the freedom to continue on your downward spiral. Your choice.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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jophil28 said:
THERE is your problem - the stated facts are that you can no longer "binge on a daily basis" ...but nowadays you get , " nice and drunk " ...and your relationships with women are adversely affected when you are drinking .

What more is there to say? You are a drunk !
You can insult and belittle me if you wish ,but you have the problem not me. Name calling or insulting the messenger is not going to straighten out your mess of a life. You need to grab yourself by the nads, man up and get in the program.

I have been EXACTLY where you are now. I know the signs and the symptoms of alcoholism/ abusive drinking/ problem drinking - whatever you call it does not matter. LIke you, I also used denial and rationionalising to avoid doing something about MY problem. I never drank during the day. or on the job either BUT the truth was that drinking excessively was DAMAGING my life in many ways, so I quit - I tried to cut down and that failed so I quit. I was ceratin that my social life was finished and I would become a social leper. The opposite turned out to be the case..

I urge you to accept that you are in trouble with alcohol and seek a better way..
However, being a sober, stand up guy is NOT compulsory, so you do have the freedom to continue on your downward spiral. Your choice.

You again! I'd figure you'd commit suicide by now. Doesn't the psycho ward have limited Internet?

A drunk? - now you're really pressing. You know everything about me with that one single line huh? LOL you are a joke. And yes, whatever I do, it's my choice and that's how it'll stay. So you "URGE" me to accept I'm in trouble, LOL. Dude, give up already, you don't know me. "Downward spiral" my @ss. "Mess of a life"? I don't base my happiness in life on women, PERIOD. I' have lots of wonderful friends and family who love and envy me, I'm financially stable, good looking, hooking up with lots of hot young chicks and in the best shape of my life - I love it!!! Bring 'em on!!!!

Update for the other posters: Last night I saw a hot chick (HB8.5) I was interested in a couple years ago but at the time had a BF. She walked up to me and my buddies and said "you should call me, sometime" - we exchanged numbers. I'm scoring hotties without even trying!!! I think she looks even better now (I'd rate her @ HB8 before) at approx. 26 yrs. old - nicely filled out. She reminds me of Christina Aguilera when she was younger (something I mentioned to her in the past) but a touch more pretty and brunette. Yipee!
 
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I don't have to know YOU to know what is wrong with you . But I know alcoholism when I encounter it.
Your posts rreek of the adolescent delusions which characterize that disorder and YOU have that disorder.

You are right - I should "give up" on you and I will. Done.
 

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I don't have to know YOU to know what is wrong with you . But I know alcoholism when I encounter it.
Your posts rreek of the adolescent delusions which characterize that disorder and YOU have that disorder.

You are right - I should "give up" on you and I will. Done.
LOL, maybe you should've been there about 9 or 10 years ago for me then. The only disorder on this thread is your SPD - Stupid Poster Disorder.
 
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