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Ok so i finally met the woman from my other thread she suggested to grab a bite to eat yesterday when she arranged to meet me at a shopping mall. I said i had a business dinner prior she told me to cancel it but i couldn't .

Because i was in a rush i changed but i think i forgot my wallet as opposed to being pickpocketed. I coulda sworn it was in my jeans.

When she arrived i said i think i got pickpocketed. She suggested going for a drink i said i dont have my wallet i cant pay she said dont worry and i said ok but i got next time.

I was surprised how cool she was about it then again she may just play it off as not a date. I felt kinda emasculated though like it seemed a bit dlv not having the means to pay. The plus side is i didnt fork anything out.

Because of this conundrum i feel like i need to make amends and invite her out for food. Nothing too expensive but just to make up for her generosity given she has pressed for food a couple times. Should i do that?

She is older 32 so i guess food isnt out of question. I may be friend zoned.
 

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I felt kinda emasculated though like it seemed a bit dlv not having the means to pay. The plus side is i didnt fork anything out.
Stop believing the social narrative as it pertains to these antiquated and supposedly "chivalrous," rules as it pertains to dating. How and better yet why are you being a emasculated by a woman how actually has money and and has no qualms about spending it. Women are always talking about how they're equal and independent in 2016. Okay you actually had a woman show you her equality and independence by paying for a drink.

I was surprised how cool she was about it then again she may just play it off as not a date.
How wasn't it a date? You spent one-on-one time with her right? You did things to spike her interest, right? You did things to get her to see you as somebody she'd want to suck and f*ck, right? Well, you were on a date. Anytime a woman agrees to kick it with you, you are officially on a date and you need to treat it as such.


Because of this conundrum i feel like i need to make amends and invite her out for food.
Why? How will this benefit you? It obvious that ole girl might actually be one of those of few in the female population that are actually decent individuals. She paid for the drinks because she WANTED TO, and she was qualifying herself to you. Now that she's done it's up to you decide what to do next. If you take her out, do it because you want to share an experience with her, not because you feel obligated, you'll end up f*cking yourself off because she'll sense that something is off. Remember, women are very intuitive.

I'd suggest that you do something that hell fly but free. Like go look at the department store Christmas displays, go look at the Christmas tree, convince her to go take a picture with Santa Claus.


Nothing too expensive but just to make up for her generosity given she has pressed for food a couple times. Should i do that?
Take her to Stone Cold. Remember, the only thing you owe her is d*ck and some game.
 

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Your feeling of being emasculated is a result of your societal conditioning from birth. Be confident in yourself and realize that you don't owe her anything or need to pay her back. When you take most women out, they don't think "Oh, I have to pay him back by taking him out to dinner the next time".

Take her to dinner or for drinks because you already planned to anyway not because you want to pay her back for paying for drinks.
 

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I stopped reading when you said she told me to cancel but I couldn't. So I'll assume that if you were able to cancel you would have?

Serious mindset issues. You need to work on those first and foremost.
 

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She messaged at 3am on whatsapp i was last on at 2.40am wasn't sure if she was just seeking attention or fishing for approval.

She sent: nice meeting you btw. Chat in the near future! Merry xmas and happy new year x

This doesn't sound like a girl who was super happy to meet me maybe just fishing to see if i was interested too?

I didn't reply till this morning but i shoulda waited and just sent nice meeting you too and you too

Give nothing away. I wrote that but added a little joke about being drunk after in the mall and getting back to the office was made easier. I sent her a photo of something we were talking about while shopping and wrote this was what i meant and they look amazing.

Read but no reply.. she's like that though a bit of a scatter brain. Like I've mentioned before about her if i message her before 7pm i wont get a reply unless i follow up after 7 then she'll be back n forth. I guess she was just fishing for attention and closure and i was baiting her to reply with the photo. Giving too much away. Tbh if she had high IL she woulda continued the convo she's been on several times now so that's the end of our interaction for a few days. I cant make plans with her literally it has to ve rhe same day or next she just does whatever she feels cant commit to anything.

I realize i should wake up and be alert before i send replies think things through. May have come across too keen after.. leave her guessing. Leave some doubt.
 
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Yeah i think she's attention seeking.

She messages me at 7pm tonight disregarding anything i wrote and sent me a pic of her shoe collection saying that's a collection and a half lol and she has ordered some new blue ones.

I said wow that is a collection and you'll have to personally model them for me some time on our next dates ;)

She didn't even acknowledge it just wrote 'have a merry Christmas'

I think that tells you she's not interested and im friendzoned.. an interested girl would say 'sure' or flirt and play along.

I haven't replied tho it may appear rude that isn't the answer i wanted. I think her need for attention is taking precedent over anything else.

I can try asking her out in a few days but i think my answer is clear.
 

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Ok so i finally met the woman from my other thread she suggested to grab a bite to eat yesterday when she arranged to meet me at a shopping mall. I said i had a business dinner prior she told me to cancel it but i couldn't .

Because i was in a rush i changed but i think i forgot my wallet as opposed to being pickpocketed. I coulda sworn it was in my jeans.

When she arrived i said i think i got pickpocketed. She suggested going for a drink i said i dont have my wallet i cant pay she said dont worry and i said ok but i got next time.

I was surprised how cool she was about it then again she may just play it off as not a date. I felt kinda emasculated though like it seemed a bit dlv not having the means to pay. The plus side is i didnt fork anything out.

Because of this conundrum i feel like i need to make amends and invite her out for food. Nothing too expensive but just to make up for her generosity given she has pressed for food a couple times. Should i do that?

She is older 32 so i guess food isnt out of question. I may be friend zoned.

You have absolutely no reason to feel emasculated. She's well on her way to being head over heels in love with you.

In order for you to understand, Read up on:

-sunk cost theory in relationships
-helper's high
-investing in a relationship
 

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Tbh me not having my wallet was such a dlv especially when i mentioned earlier to go for a drink. Maybe she thought i was doing it on purpose to avoid paying cos i was reluctant to meet for food previously.

Despite what you guys say on here before i think she lost respect for me by her paying even though she knew i couldn't something inside her triggered a lack of interest. Despite equality and all i think she turned it into a friendzone thing and attention seeking thing.

The only benefit is that I didn't waste any money on her. If she feels o was lying about my wallet situation especially since i invited her for a drink couple hours before if she assumes i was lying or misled her then no wonder.

Then again even if my game was tighter i still feel even paying wouldn't necessarily helped me so overall im better off the way it went.

I tried following up but I'll just ignore her now. She's the same woman who forgot our date previously so obviously there is no physical attraction on her part despite her being receptive to kino or acting like she was interested. She wanted to show me her sexy shoes she bought yesterday when we metans the bag was between us so she moved it so that i could move in closer to me. I grabbed her hand she let me touch her. I thoughr there was attraction as ahe was so open to me touching her even her butt.

Very strange.

I pushed it just now saying 'you too. Im taking you for chinese food next time. Will you be dressed up for me? ;) i have an idea of what i like to see you in... ;)'

Factor in originally before the whole calling her out on wasting my time and initial flirting she asked me what i would like to see her in on a date so thought this would conclude precedings.

Forget equality when a girl pays for you and you're unable to pay for whatever reason it looks a dlv esp when i invited her for drinks initially. I think she thinks i did it on purpose to avoid paying given i was reluctant to go for food and previously i suggested coffee as a first date so thinks I'm . being cheap. Guilty of past actions.
 

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You have absolutely no reason to feel emasculated. She's well on her way to being head over heels in love with you.

In order for you to understand, Read up on:

-sunk cost theory in relationships
-helper's high
-investing in a relationship
I dont think so man if you read what ensued after im definitely friendzoned now.. her gay best fashion friend.. f that. Ignore time. Her need for attention hopefully may make her succumb to fvcking to prove a point.. she's super impatient ignoring her is my only tactic now. Tbh i dont know if whether having my wallet and actually paying woulda helped or hindered either way im no worse off financially so cant complain. Given her antics before its no surprise.
 

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She messaged at 3am on whatsapp i was last on at 2.40am wasn't sure if she was just seeking attention or fishing for approval.

She sent: nice meeting you btw. Chat in the near future! Merry xmas and happy new year x

This doesn't sound like a girl who was super happy to meet me maybe just fishing to see if i was interested too?

I didn't reply till this morning but i shoulda waited and just sent nice meeting you too and you too

Give nothing away. I wrote that but added a little joke about being drunk after in the mall and getting back to the office was made easier. I sent her a photo of something we were talking about while shopping and wrote this was what i meant and they look amazing.

Read but no reply.. she's like that though a bit of a scatter brain. Like I've mentioned before about her if i message her before 7pm i wont get a reply unless i follow up after 7 then she'll be back n forth. I guess she was just fishing for attention and closure and i was baiting her to reply with the photo. Giving too much away. Tbh if she had high IL she woulda continued the convo she's been on several times now so that's the end of our interaction for a few days. I cant make plans with her literally it has to ve rhe same day or next she just does whatever she feels cant commit to anything.

I realize i should wake up and be alert before i send replies think things through. May have come across too keen after.. leave her guessing. Leave some doubt.
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Yeah i think she's attention seeking.
Yeah she's seeking attention, but let me ask you this. When isn't a woman seeking attention?

I think that tells you she's not interested and im friendzoned.
Did Rex miss the part when ole boy tried to make a move on her and she rejected him? Dude, you'll know if you've been friendzoned if you try to f*ck and she constantly rejects you. Besides, though they're creatures of subtly, women will definitely let you know through their actions or words that they're not trying to have you bust that thang out.

an interested girl would say 'sure' or flirt and play along.
Another reason as to why you need to speak to her on the phone. You're over here trying to figure out the meaning behind her text as if were ancient hieroglyphics pre the Rosetta Stone.

I haven't replied tho it may appear rude
Why do you care?

that isn't the answer i wanted.
Two questions? Why aren't you leading the interaction to get the answer that you want and my other favorite question on these boards, why aren't you spinning plates?

I think her need for attention is taking precedent over anything else.
Listen bruh, if you're going to trip off a woman's need for attention, stop right now, do not pass "Go," and do not collect $200. Say f*ck trying to smash, join the Trappist Abbey of Saint Sextus in Belgium and brew Westvleteren beer for the rest of your life or become a faggot.

I can try asking her out in a few days but i think my answer is clear.
Class lets review.

1) Ole girl actually showed up for the date.

2) She didn't trip when you didn't have any dough.

3) She willingly paid for the drinks.

4) She messaged you at 3 A.M. You missed the hint. She wanted you to blow her back out.

5) She said "Nice meeting you."

6) She said told you "Merry Christmas." Chicks really won't do this unless they have at least a minimum amount of interest.

Here's what's going one. Your pessimism, (which she perceives as a lack of interest,) has what we say on So Suave, has her "hamster wheel," running. She's wondering why you're not on her ass with incessant texting and attempts to get her out on a date. So far you're good money. So here's what you do. Invite her for a holiday night cap. Find a cool little bar or lounge that's opened tonight or tomorrow night. Go to the bar or lounge about 9:30, 10:00 When you get there, CALL, DON'T TEXT her. So the sh*t doesn't appear random, make bull**** conversation about about Christmas gifts, Christmas dinner, and wacky relatives, then you do this verbatim, don't ask or imply but TELL HER meet you at said venue.

One of two things is going to happen. Either ole girl will meet you at said venue and you'll get some Merry Christmas nookie or she'll say no and explain why. The way this chick is rockin' if she says no, she'll probably offer a counter offer. If she does offer a counter offer, and it's for New Year's, decline it. You have to give the perception you have sh*t going on. This chick is interested in you, but you're over analyzing the situation and because of similar past bad experiences, you're assuming the worst. I can't blame you, Rex was the same way. Hell f*ck was, I still have thoughts that a b*tch is going to flake, say "no," or do something other than what I want her to. However, you have to stop thinking the worst, and accept the fact that you're the dude and you have something that no other guy can offer her. That something else is your time and attention. With that, Rex wishes good luck and a Merry Christmas.
 

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Yeah she's seeking attention, but let me ask you this. When isn't a woman seeking attention?



Did Rex miss the part when ole boy tried to make a move on her and she rejected him? Dude, you'll know if you've been friendzoned if you try to f*ck and she constantly rejects you. Besides, though they're creatures of subtly, women will definitely let you know through their actions or words that they're not trying to have you bust that thang out.



Another reason as to why you need to speak to her on the phone. You're over here trying to figure out the meaning behind her text as if were ancient hieroglyphics pre the Rosetta Stone.



Why do you care?



Two questions? Why aren't you leading the interaction to get the answer that you want and my other favorite question on these boards, why aren't you spinning plates?



Listen bruh, if you're going to trip off a woman's need for attention, stop right now, do not pass "Go," and do not collect $200. Say f*ck trying to smash, join the Trappist Abbey of Saint Sextus in Belgium and brew Westvleteren beer for the rest of your life or become a faggot.



Class lets review.

1) Ole girl actually showed up for the date.

2) She didn't trip when you didn't have any dough.

3) She willingly paid for the drinks.

4) She messaged you at 3 A.M. You missed the hint. She wanted you to blow her back out.

5) She said "Nice meeting you."

6) She said told you "Merry Christmas." Chicks really won't do this unless they have at least a minimum amount of interest.

Here's what's going one. Your pessimism, (which she perceives as a lack of interest,) has what we say on So Suave, has her "hamster wheel," running. She's wondering why you're not on her ass with incessant texting and attempts to get her out on a date. So far you're good money. So here's what you do. Invite her for a holiday night cap. Find a cool little bar or lounge that's opened tonight or tomorrow night. Go to the bar or lounge about 9:30, 10:00 When you get there, CALL, DON'T TEXT her. So the sh*t doesn't appear random, make bull**** conversation about about Christmas gifts, Christmas dinner, and wacky relatives, then you do this verbatim, don't ask or imply but TELL HER meet you at said venue.

One of two things is going to happen. Either ole girl will meet you at said venue and you'll get some Merry Christmas nookie or she'll say no and explain why. The way this chick is rockin' if she says no, she'll probably offer a counter offer. If she does offer a counter offer, and it's for New Year's, decline it. You have to give the perception you have sh*t going on. This chick is interested in you, but you're over analyzing the situation and because of similar past bad experiences, you're assuming the worst. I can't blame you, Rex was the same way. Hell f*ck was, I still have thoughts that a b*tch is going to flake, say "no," or do something other than what I want her to. However, you have to stop thinking the worst, and accept the fact that you're the dude and you have something that no other guy can offer her. That something else is your time and attention. With that, Rex wishes good luck and a Merry Christmas.
Did you not read the last interaction where she just wrote 'have a great christmas ignoring what i said about her personally modelling them for me on our next dates?

She completely ignored the comment. I followed up suggesting to go for chinese food next time and will she be dressing up for me and that i have an idea of what i liked to see her in. (She has asked me before what i wanted to see her wearing on a date - this was before we had a fall out, she forgot our first date this is same one who i called out for being spoilt and she apologised etc theres more story to this)

She only showed up cos she was close by shopping with her mom, when i confirmed earlier she still said she wasnt sure if she was coming to the shopping centre.

I just thought the date went well but im clearly wrong. She woulda replied to my last message about going for food on whatsapp if she was interested.

Last night msg nice neeting you btw wasnt a booty call it was pure attention seeking she is an attention wh0re to the fullest now i realize. She woulda said i had a great time snd cant wait to see you again or something along those lines.

If she was interested she woulda replied. She hasn't so there is ny answer. She's online chatting away on whatsapp ignoring me i shall fo the same in future. She's ignored my go for chinese food next time message what more do you need to indicate not interested except having me in friendzone?

Her paying for me was a great way for her to not see it as a proper date and friendzone me
 

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Did you not read the last interaction where she just wrote 'have a great christmas ignoring what i said about her personally modelling them for me on our next dates? She completely ignored the comment.
This why you don't text hoes. You don't know the f*ck she had going on. Maybe she was cooking. Maybe she was wrapping Christmas gifts. Maybe she just got out of the shower and was putting on lotion. Maybe she was gaming and needed to pass that level so she could save the game. Maybe some other dude was laying in bed right next to her and she couldn't go into detail about how she wants to model her Christian Louboutain heels and have you f*ck her like an animal while she's just wearing the heels. The point of the matter is you why she didn't answer the question, so stop trippin' on it.

I followed up suggesting to go for chinese food next time
Don't "suggest," instruct. Get in the habit of giving chicks explicit instructions on what you want them to do. This accomplishes two goals. Shows the chick that you're assertive and you don't have problem going for what you want and it forces them to give you definite answers to your plans.

and will she be dressing up for me and that i have an idea of what i liked to see her in.
Stop that clown sh*t. It makes you come off as a thirsty p*ssy hound. This is behavior reserved for bed buddies and the girlfriend.

(She has asked me before what i wanted to see her wearing on a date
What did you say? This is a quasi sh*t test and bullsh*t conversation. I would have said clothes, something cute, or been like, "You're not paying me to be your stylist. Call one of your girlfriends or that guy who likes you, (that you're not trying to f*ck with and ask him.)

- this was before we had a fall out,
Fall out? About what?

she forgot our first date
Did she flake or she forgot the date that you went on?

this is same one who i called out for being spoiled and she apologised etc there's more story to this)
Link please.

She only showed up cos she was close by shopping with her mom,
To paraphrase Shawn Carter, she could have been anywhere in the world, but she was there with you. If she wasn't trying to f*ck with you she wouldn't have showed up. As a matter of that would have been her excuse, she was shopping with her mom. For her to stop shopping with her mother to kick it with you, says something.

when i confirmed earlier she still said she wasn't sure if she was coming to the shopping centre.
Say bruh, that wasn't on her, but you for not cementing your plans more firmly.

I just thought the date went well but I'm clearly wrong.
Considering that she paid for the muthaf*cka, please explain to dear ole Rex how the date went wrong.

She woulda replied to my last message about going for food on whatsapp if she was interested.
Or maybe due to a chick's capricious nature, she got distracted doing something else and completely forgot.

Last night msg nice neeting you btw wasnt a booty call. It was pure attention seeking
So what's so special about receiving attention from you? Out of all the guys who's trying to f*ck with this chick, she was pleased to me you. Sometimes you cats have to take sh*t for what it's worth and not read too much into sh*t.

it was pure attention seeking she is an attention wh0re to the fullest now i realize.
As opposed to what chick who isn't?[/B]

She woulda said i had a great time snd cant wait to see you again or something along those lines.
She did say that dumb f*ck. You know that women are implicit in their actions and they don't want to come off as over eager. She's probably had bad experiences with revealing too much, too fast. There's nothing wrong with what she said. For her to take time out of her day to shoot you message saying that she enjoyed your company, shows that you're on her mind and she'll probably go out with you again.

If she was interested she woulda replied.
You know pete. People have these things called lives, maybe she was out living it.

She hasn't so there is ny answer.
So what are you going to do about it. Sit here on Christmas Eve lamenting about why some chick hasn't text you back or are you going to get some more chicks? Stop being a b*tch dude, the sh*t is very unbecoming of a man.

She's online chatting away on whatsapp ignoring me i shall fo the same in future.
Why is this chick the only girl you're talking to?

She's ignored my go for chinese food next time message what more do you need to indicate not interested except having me in friendzone?
Okay, then move on.

Her paying for me was a great way for her to not see it as a proper date and friendzone me
Let's rephrase the proceeding statement. "Her paying for me was a great way for ME NOT TO SEE IT AS A PROPER DATE. BTW, define "proper date."
 
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This why you don't text hoes. You don't know the f*ck she had going on. Maybe she was cooking. Maybe she was wrapping Christmas gifts. Maybe she just got of the shower and was putting on lotion. Maybe she was gaming and needed to pass that level so she could save the game. Maybe some other dude was laying in bed right next to her and she couldn't go into detail about how she wants to model her Christian Louboutain heels and have you f*ck her like an animal while she's just wearing the heels. The point of the matter is you why she didn't answer the question, so stop trippin' on it.



Don't "suggest," instruct. Get in the habit of giving chicks explicit instructions on what you want them to do. This accomplishes two goals. Shows the chick that you're assertive and you don't have problem going for what you want and it forces them to give you definite answers to your plans.



Stop that clown sh*t. It makes you come off as a thirsty p*ssy hound. This is behavior reserved for bed buddies and the girlfriend.



What did you say? This is a quasi sh*t test and bullsh*t conversation. I would have said clothes, something cute, or been like, "You're not paying me to be your stylist. Call one of your girlfriends or that guy who likes you, (that you're not trying to f*ck with and ask him.)



Fall out? About what?



Did she flake or she forgot the date that you went on?



Link please.



To paraphrase Shawn Carter, she could have been anywhere in the world, but she was there with you. If she wasn't trying to f*ck with you she wouldn't have showed up. As a matter of that would have been her excuse, she was shopping with her mom. For her to stop shopping with her mother to kick it with you, says something.



Say bruh, that wasn't on her, but you for not cementing your plans more firmly.



Considering that she paid for the muthaf*cka, please explain to dear ole Rex how the date went wrong.



Or maybe due to a chick's capricious nature, she got distracted doing something else and completely forgot.



So what's so special about receiving attention from you? Out of all the guys who's trying to f*ck with this chick, she was pleased to me you. Sometimes you cats have to take sh*t for what it's worth and not read too much into sh*t.



As opposed to what chick who isn't?[/B]



She did say that dumb f*ck. You know that women are implicit in their actions and they don't want to come off as over eager. She's probably had bad experiences with revealing too much, too fast. There's nothing wrong with what she said. For her to take time out of her day to shoot you message saying that she enjoyed your company, shows that you're on her mind and she'll probably go out with you again.



You know pete. People have these things called lives, maybe she was out living it.



So what are you going to do about it. Sit here on Christmas Eve lamenting about why some chick hasn't text you back or are you going to get some more chicks? Stop being a b*tch dude, the sh*t is very unbecoming of a man.



Why is this chick the only girl you're talking to?



Okay, then move on.



Let's rephrase the proceeding statement. "Her paying for me was a great way for ME NOT TO SEE IT AS A PROPER DATE. BTW, define "proper date."
If she was interested why has she not replied to the whatsapp message? She didn't acknowledge what i said just said have a great xmas to end the convo. I pressed the issue i said you too. I'll take you for chinese food next time will you be dressing up for me? Etc making it clear there is a sexual connotation to us meeting not friend zone sh1t she read and ignored shes been on whatsapp all evening after that it's a clear ignore. fvck giving her benefit of doubt shes read it been on multiple times online not replying

It's all well n good being optimistic but cant you see her being clear cut not replying to what i said indicates low interest? An interested girl would play along. She didn't. She said have a great xmas to end the convo when i said for her to model me her shoes some time on our future dates.. an interested girl would acknowledged it. If she is put off by that then she is clearly not interested and just wants me to give her attention only.

If say you're right and it was a booty call then in future I'll reply to anything at that time. I was going to bed i had work this morning and it would take me an hour to get to hers maybe more all i coulda got from it was maybe escalating it more sexually.

Even if she was busy she woulda replied given how many times she been on whatsapp. She ended the convo the way she did to make it clear im friend zoned. Which shows her nice meeting you btw bs from last night shows it was just an attention seeking thing to check to see if i was interested once she found out shes not interested anymore.

There is no point calling she doesn't answer her phone any time i called before she has a smokers voice has a complex about it.

I honestly see at this point im just wasting my time and money if i ask her out as if she was interested she woulda replied to my sleazy message about what i liked to see her in..what interested girl wouldn't? ?

You said she did say she had a great time by her nice meeting you btw etc then why isn't she replying to the whatsapp message? I didn't text her at any point only whatsapp so i can see when things are read and last seen so i know if im being fvcked about.

Surely on your reasons for her messaging last night and it supposedly is positive then why isn't she replying or acknowledging what i said? Im not delusional i can clearly see shes not interested and anything she wrote last night was not a positive as if it was she be receptive today.
 
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This why you don't text hoes. You don't know the f*ck she had going on. Maybe she was cooking. Maybe she was wrapping Christmas gifts. Maybe she just got of the shower and was putting on lotion. Maybe she was gaming and needed to pass that level so she could save the game. Maybe some other dude was laying in bed right next to her and she couldn't go into detail about how she wants to model her Christian Louboutain heels and have you f*ck her like an animal while she's just wearing the heels. The point of the matter is you why she didn't answer the question, so stop trippin' on it.



Don't "suggest," instruct. Get in the habit of giving chicks explicit instructions on what you want them to do. This accomplishes two goals. Shows the chick that you're assertive and you don't have problem going for what you want and it forces them to give you definite answers to your plans.



Stop that clown sh*t. It makes you come off as a thirsty p*ssy hound. This is behavior reserved for bed buddies and the girlfriend.



What did you say? This is a quasi sh*t test and bullsh*t conversation. I would have said clothes, something cute, or been like, "You're not paying me to be your stylist. Call one of your girlfriends or that guy who likes you, (that you're not trying to f*ck with and ask him.)



Fall out? About what?



Did she flake or she forgot the date that you went on?



Link please.



To paraphrase Shawn Carter, she could have been anywhere in the world, but she was there with you. If she wasn't trying to f*ck with you she wouldn't have showed up. As a matter of that would have been her excuse, she was shopping with her mom. For her to stop shopping with her mother to kick it with you, says something.



Say bruh, that wasn't on her, but you for not cementing your plans more firmly.



Considering that she paid for the muthaf*cka, please explain to dear ole Rex how the date went wrong.



Or maybe due to a chick's capricious nature, she got distracted doing something else and completely forgot.



So what's so special about receiving attention from you? Out of all the guys who's trying to f*ck with this chick, she was pleased to me you. Sometimes you cats have to take sh*t for what it's worth and not read too much into sh*t.



As opposed to what chick who isn't?[/B]



She did say that dumb f*ck. You know that women are implicit in their actions and they don't want to come off as over eager. She's probably had bad experiences with revealing too much, too fast. There's nothing wrong with what she said. For her to take time out of her day to shoot you message saying that she enjoyed your company, shows that you're on her mind and she'll probably go out with you again.



You know pete. People have these things called lives, maybe she was out living it.



So what are you going to do about it. Sit here on Christmas Eve lamenting about why some chick hasn't text you back or are you going to get some more chicks? Stop being a b*tch dude, the sh*t is very unbecoming of a man.



Why is this chick the only girl you're talking to?



Okay, then move on.



Let's rephrase the proceeding statement. "Her paying for me was a great way for ME NOT TO SEE IT AS A PROPER DATE. BTW, define "proper date."
Fvck I'll ask her out in a few days anything other than a yes I'll ignore her. Should i ask what night is good? (She commits to nothing then doesn't even flake when i go to confirm she forgets we're meeting n tries to squeeze me in with her gf)

I'll just do it on sat and ask for sun or mon. Instruct. I feel this is weak asking her out when she's clearly indicated she isnt on it.
 

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If she was interested why has she not replied to the whatsapp message?
Believe it or not, people have things going in their lives besides social media. Especially during Christmastime. If you really want to know where you stand with this broad, do what the eff I told you to do. If you don't want to do that, then holla at some other chicks. Go take a picture with a Santa Claus, play video games, read a book. Do whatever it was you where doing before this broad entered into your life. You sitting here agonizing on where or not this chick likes you or not isn't worth your time.

She didn't acknowledge what i said just said have a great xmas to end the convo. I pressed the issue i said you too. I'll take you for chinese food next time will you be dressing up for me? Etc making it clear there is a sexual connotation to us meeting not friend zone sh1t she read and ignored shes been on whatsapp all evening after that it's a clear ignore. fvck giving her benefit of doubt shes read it been on multiple times online not replying.
Okay, fine if you feel that way. Delete her number from your phone and all of your social media platforms. Once you've done that, go hit up the some bars and find some broads that are upset and depressed they're not home with their families or upset and depressed about not having boyfriends. Be that understanding shoulder they want to cry on and take them someplace where you can indulge in some Yuletide coitus.

It's all well n good being optimistic but cant you see her being clear cut not replying to what i said indicates low interest? An interested girl would play along. She didn't. She said have a great xmas to end the convo when i said for her to model me her shoes some time on our future dates.. an interested girl would acknowledged it. If she is put off by that then she is clearly not interested and just wants me to give her attention only.
Okay, you have your answer. Stop worrying about it and move on.

Even if she was busy she woulda replied given how many times she been on whatsapp.
Not really, but anyway, why aren't you talking to this chick on the phone?

There is no point calling she doesn't answer her phone any time i called before she has a smokers voice has a complex about it.
If you made it clear that the only way she would communicate was over the phone, she would have agreed to it, but anyway.

I honestly see at this point im just wasting my time and money if i ask her out as if she was interested she woulda replied to my sleazy message about what i liked to see her in..what interested girl wouldn't? ?
Maybe that was your problem. You got ahead ahead of yourself in the game and sent her a "sleazy message," before establishing enough rapport to do that. Ole girl may have rape fantasies and want to have a gangbang with five dudes that involves triple penetration, however she doesn't want to come off with new dudes that she's a big ole freak. Anyway, since you feel as if you f*cked up there's no reason to discuss this any further.
 

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Fvck I'll ask her out in a few days anything other than a yes I'll ignore her. Should i ask what night is good? (She commits to nothing then doesn't even flake when i go to confirm she forgets we're meeting n tries to squeeze me in with her gf)

I'll just do it on sat and ask for sun or mon. Instruct.
Mutha****a!!! Make up your goddamn mind. If you want to take her out do what f*ck I told you to do.

I feel this is weak asking her out when she's clearly indicated she isnt on it.
If you feel it's weak, then don't do it you game retarded piece of sh*t. Y'all need to be glad Rex doesn't own this board because if he did, he would be banning game retards like pete left and right.

 

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Mutha****a!!! Make up your goddamn mind. If you want to take her out do what f*ck I told you to do.



If you feel it's weak, then don't do it you game retarded piece of sh*t. Y'all need to be glad Rex doesn't own this board because if he did, he would be banning game retards like pete left and right.
Everyone he goes out with or talks to is "spoilt", everyone Pyros does "isn't ready to be kissed"

Is there something I'm fvcking missing here??
 

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Everyone he goes out with or talks to is "spoilt", everyone Pyros does "isn't ready to be kissed"

Is there something I'm fvcking missing here??
It seems that with the exception of Mr. Wright, the British have extremely weak game and don't listen to sound and cogent advice. They're making their countrymen look extremely bad.
 

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Wow....

This chick isnt really feeling you. You've spent hours thinking about this and even on this thread... For a girl that's not even feeling you man. Come on bro, what part of the game is this?

See me, I'm the type of dude that only deals with 100% cooperation. If I suggest any type of date with a chick she better appreciate it and respond to it. I don't chase any type of chicks.

Now what Rex is saying may be true. But quite honestly I rather use my time and find a chick that's down with team AJ. Not a chick that wants to play games and play "hard" to get.

Now stop wasting time with this chick. Either ask her out again or stop wasting time with her. To be honest with you if I were you I'd just invite the chick over to the crib or her crib. It's time to shvt or get off the toilet. I wouldn't even take her out on any more dates. I don't give a **** if she paid for the first date. After you smashed and she's down with your program, then you may take her out.

So morale of the story is ask the chick out again. Find more chicks. Don't waste anymore time with her unless she says yes. Not no, not maybe, not we will see, but yes!
 

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Wow....

This chick isnt really feeling you. You've spent hours thinking about this and even on this thread... For a girl that's not even feeling you man. Come on bro, what part of the game is this?
LMFAO!!! It's called "I have no game"
 
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