Los Angeles, CA

[BPH]

Before I go out and engage in toxic masculinity and misogyny in defiance of @self_is_an_illusion I had a question for those of you who do/have lived here.

Is it as fun as it looks?

If I fire up Instagram and find some random hot chick, there's a 50% chance she lives in Los Angeles, with the other 50% chance being in Miami. I've visited only once in my life, and I was definitely too young to enjoy it, but I wonder what it's like.

Is it just hot girls walking up and down the street everywhere you go?

Are dudes just living the life, or are these girls only accessible by the elite (similar to how the ones in Miami are always just hanging out on some dude's yacht)?

Is it all it's cracked up to be, or is it much less fun post-COVID and post-wildfire?

I'm just curious as to how much I'm missing out. At one point in my life, I wanted to live here or AZ because I imagined it would be the dream; warm weather, nearby beaches, and beautiful women who took care of themselves year-round. I'm wondering if expectation matches reality or if it's just a liberal hellhole (not to make it political, just an observation) with a bunch of homeless and high cost of living.

Let me know.

 

[SW15]

Is it just hot girls walking up and down the street everywhere you go?

No

Are dudes just living the life, or are these girls only accessible by the elite (similar to how the ones in Miami are always just hanging out on some dude's yacht)?

Elite doing well, the rest are not.

Is it all it's cracked up to be, or is it much less fun post-COVID and post-wildfire?

I'm just curious as to how much I'm missing out. At one point in my life, I wanted to live here or AZ because I imagined it would be the dream; warm weather, nearby beaches, and beautiful women who took care of themselves year-round. I'm wondering if expectation matches reality or if it's just a liberal hellhole (not to make it political, just an observation) with a bunch of homeless and high cost of living.

It's not. Both Arizona and Southern California fail to live up to the hype.

Southern California has had a high homeless rate since at least the 1990s. It has gotten worse over time.

 

[The Duke]

There are a lot of hot girls that bounce between LA, Dallas, and Miami. They are usually on some dudes payroll. Proceed with caution. And what they do for a living will be related to their looks. Watch them squirm when you inquire about their job.

 

[BeExcellent]

My husband got the hell out of LA because he got tired of overly crazy/entitled/screwed up women, the traffic, and the expense of being there (taxes, housing, going out are all ridiculous.)

And this is a guy with extreme good looks & physique who could get hot women.....he came to AZ and he is unlikely to ever leave. Traffic better, taxes & expenses less, plenty of pretty women around (who will be far less concerned about your age.) Obviously my husband has turned in his player card now, lol but he got out of SoCal.

It can be weird in smaller population centers. People get strange over stupid stuff. If you are 30ish, good looking and in shape with a good vibe & social skill you'd do better in AZ. You can always go check out LA and check out AZ. Nobody is going to have this high school mentality of fixating on your age.

My son married a very sweet cute small town midwestern girl. Her family is still weird about him not being from that same area from a family they know etc. Smaller population centers are more insular and people often keep to context that they know. To avoid that you need to possibly go elsewhere. Bigger population centers generally are less insular although you'll have pockets that remain so even in bigger cities. Typically those will be your more exclusive areas (Bellemeade in Nashville, Beverly Hills in LA, etc.)

 

[Vanderdonck]

Beautiful weather. The people are very nice but they are like space cadets. A lot of where do you live / what do you do / who do you know mentality tied in with perceived value. You'd probably have to do some serious digging to find non-entertainment industry people who are more down to earth. Also if you like driving and sitting in traffic, LA is the place for you. I do hear that more people use the metro these days. The downtown blows, it's a non entity. Beaches are overrated and kinda gross. Amazing Mexican and Asian food.

When you get a chick's number, you never know where in the vast he11scape she'll live, so logistics are a nightmare. If you can afford a good place in a nice neighborhood or "adjacent" and throw great parties you'll do well.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Is it as fun as it looks?

All a matter of expectations:

If you're anticipating day to day life in The City Of Angeles to be a replica of Enterouge or Californication, you'll be no less disappointed than the legions of 20something girls who venture out to NYC each year, thinking it'll be just like all those Sex&The City and Gossip Girl re-runs they've binged a few million times over. Only to discover all that sh-t was an infantile fantasy back when it first aired, and is perhaps even MORE SO today

As others have already pointed out, if you decided to relocate, be prepared to spend a lot of time sitting in traffic + Fork over both arms and leg, to reside in exceptionally modest digs that are 80% cheaper everywhere else in The US, except for perhaps NYC

 

[SW15]

got the hell out of LA because... the expense of being there (taxes, housing, going out are all ridiculous.)

This has been a problem with Southern California metro areas since the late 1990s-early 2000s.

It has contributed to the growth in multiple interior Western states.

I mentioned this in the first post of the "Observations on Phoenix's Scene" thread in 2022.

Traffic better, taxes & expenses less, plenty of pretty women around (who will be far less concerned about your age.) Obviously my husband has turned in his player card now, lol but he got out of SoCal.

Traffic has been bad in Metro Los Angeles for decades. Traffic has gotten continually worse in Metro Phoenix over time. Metro Phoenix today feels more congested than it did in the 2000s. In the 2000s, a common complaint in Metro Phoenix was in an increase in traffic/congestion compared to the 1980s-1990s.

Los Angeles remains expensive.

The weather is good in Los Angeles if someone lives relatively close to the Pacific Ocean. Downtown Los Angeles is where it starts to get warm and east of Downtown continues that.

The San Fernando Valley is also hot.

It can be weird in smaller population centers. People get strange over stupid stuff. If you are 30ish, good looking and in shape with a good vibe & social skill you'd do better in AZ. You can always go check out LA and check out AZ. Nobody is going to have this high school mentality of fixating on your age.

Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Tucson are all large enough that being 30+ and never married/childless are not going to be an issue.

@BPH is good looking, in shape, and has social skill. He has demonstrated in field reports that he has had social skill in dealing with female crap tests.

Beaches are overrated and kinda gross.

I think this is somewhat unexpected to outsiders who aren't familiar with Metro Los Angeles.

Santa Monica and Venice Beach are not nice and a lot of homeless are nearby. That's been a problem around there for decades.

Malibu's beaches were nicer in the past. Parts of Malibu were affected by the lesser Franklin Fire in December 2024 and the bigger Palisades Fire in January 2025. This may have changed. Also, getting to Malibu in 2025 is now difficult post Palisades Fire due to Pacific Coast Highway traffic restrictions.

A lot of where do you live / what do you do / who do you know mentality tied in with perceived value. You'd probably have to do some serious digging to find non-entertainment industry people who are more down to earth.

This is a huge issue in many neighborhoods in Los Angeles' Westside.

@BPH would have no status and not a lot of money if he were to move there. Having looks is good, but lacking money and status can hurt in Los Angeles' social scene.

When you get a chick's number, you never know where in the vast he11scape she'll live, so logistics are a nightmare.

It depends on the method of game used. If @BPH were to be an app swiper, he could limit his distance and swipe primarily at home.

Traffic is so bad in Los Angeles that men seducing women and making friends have to be aware of distance and logistics.

 

[CornbreadFed]

At this point, every negative thing about LA can be attributed to most US cities at this point. The traffic is bad here, there's homeless everywhere here, there's crime everywhere here, there's stuck up people here...arguable worse here, it is expensive here, a lot of overrated stuff here, and etc. LA is a global city that attracts young women from everywhere, the food scene goes past fancy Chili's, 30-dollar millennial food, and the weather is nice, so those are some unique things you get out of LA that you wouldn't get in Philadelphia. My only issue with LA is that I do want to pay out of the @$$ to just say I live in LA. The infrastructure is still bad, you are still dealing with BS associated with the US, and etc. If you have an opportunity to move there, then I would say go for it.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I used to live in LA. & I visit occasionally.
it’s huge. Lots of driving in often congested freeways. Sales tax is now 11%. Lots of homeless. Hot.
with that being said. Beautiful women. Lots & lots of things do.
fun to visit.
However I don’t like heat, so I really didn’t like living there.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Before I go out and engage in toxic masculinity and misogyny in defiance of @self_is_an_illusion I had a question for those of you who do/have lived here.

Is it as fun as it looks?

If I fire up Instagram and find some random hot chick, there's a 50% chance she lives in Los Angeles, with the other 50% chance being in Miami. I've visited only once in my life, and I was definitely too young to enjoy it, but I wonder what it's like.

Is it just hot girls walking up and down the street everywhere you go?

Are dudes just living the life, or are these girls only accessible by the elite (similar to how the ones in Miami are always just hanging out on some dude's yacht)?

Is it all it's cracked up to be, or is it much less fun post-COVID and post-wildfire?

I'm just curious as to how much I'm missing out. At one point in my life, I wanted to live here or AZ because I imagined it would be the dream; warm weather, nearby beaches, and beautiful women who took care of themselves year-round. I'm wondering if expectation matches reality or if it's just a liberal hellhole (not to make it political, just an observation) with a bunch of homeless and high cost of living.

Let me know.

Don't move somewhere primairly for the sake of hunting cooter. You can do that in ANY major metropolitan area in The US: Los Angeles is nothing special, on that front anyway. And since no human being is vigorous enough to spend every minute of the day having sex, 98% your time will be spent navigating life and all of it's complexities, wherever you live

We've already discussed traffic, homelessness being out of hand, and housing being anything but cheap... Think hard also on whether or not you'll be OK with paying $5-$6 for fuel, even more than that on food per week, and the near-absence of seasons

Often enough, the same folk who once salivated at the thought of leaving Minnesota behind for an eternal summer, find themselves saying:
"Temperatures which allow us to fry eggs on the sidewalk ain't easy to live in. 8 feet of snow, and a -19°F windchill, would be a relief right about now"

 

[CornbreadFed]

Don't move somewhere primairly for the sake of hunting cooter. You can do that in ANY major metropolitan area in The US: Los Angeles is nothing special, on that front anyway. And since no human being is vigorous enough to spend every minute of the day having sex, 98% your time will be spent navigating life and all of it's complexities, wherever you live

Heavily disagree, your territory matters a lot when it comes to dating.

 

[Gamisch]

Heavily disagree, your territory matters a lot when it comes to dating.

Ofcourse it does, but don't you think he has a point when he says do not MOVE to yxz place solely to chase p00sy?

Women= women everywhere on this planet. If you can't pull in town A you won't pull in town B. Especially "you" ( not CornbreadFed but you the reader who KNOWS his internal state isn't properly calibrated).

 

[CornbreadFed]

Ofcourse it does, but don't you think he has a point when he says do not MOVE to yxz place solely to chase p00sy?

Women= women everywhere on this planet. If you can't pull in town A you won't pull in town B. Especially "you" ( not CornbreadFed but you the reader who KNOWS his internal state isn't properly calibrated).

Yes and No. There's certain steps and measures to take before you can blame your territory. For example, is your body on point, are you making effort, and etc. For me, I had everything on point and I was still not getting shvt because I was black. I moved to a more open minded city and my dating life flipped liked that. In fact, I had 3 girls wanting to fvck me before I even arrived in my new city. Should OP move to LA for just pvssy? No, but if he wants a fresh scene and actually likes LA then he should go for it.

 

[SW15]

Don't move somewhere primairly for the sake of hunting cooter. You can do that in ANY major metropolitan area in The US:

He lives in Wilmington, DE. Wilmington is not a major metro area but Philadelphia is about 35 miles away.

Moving to Philadelphia makes sense.

Wilmington is part of a county that is around 500,000 in population. The problem is that while the quantity is there in Wilmington, it's more of a Philadelphia type bedroom community.

Metro areas typically need 200,000+ in population to be a good solution for dating strangers as a working age person.

I would recommend some men in areas with populations below 200,000 move to a more populated area to hunt cooter.

Despite Wilmington's nearly 500,000 in population, it is primarily overshadowed by Philadelphia's multiple millions just 35 miles away. To a lesser extent, Baltimore and Washington DC overshadow it too, as both are within 110 miles of Wilmington.

People who are in New Castle County, Delaware (Wilmington in the largest city in that county) often relocate to Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Washington DC in part for mating purposes.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Heavily disagree, your territory matters a lot when it comes to dating.

And I never denied this: All I'm.saying is don't allow snagging p-ssy to be your PRIMARY motivation for relocating. 98% of your time will spent on activities other than boning broads, so contemplate whether or not you'll find life in wherever you relocate agreeable

In OP's case, he needs to decide whether or not he's OK with things like cost of living, the state of transportation, and temperatures which frequently range between 90-over 100 degrees Celsius

 

[CornbreadFed]

And I never denied this: All I'm.saying is don't allow snagging p-ssy to be your PRIMARY motivation for relocating. 98% of your time will spent on activities other than boning broads, so contemplate whether or not you'll find life in wherever you relocate agreeable

In OP's case, he needs to decide whether or not he's OK with things like cost of living, the state of transportation, and temperatures which frequently range between 90-over 100 degrees Celsius

Op just needs to get the frick out of Delaware. If pvssy is the influencer then so be it.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

If you're thinking about LA consider Phoenix/Scottsdale first OP. Better-adjusted women who are just as attractive, and much lower cost of living. Chicks who aren't as crazy as in CA, but also not as uptight as your typical east-coaster.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Op just needs to get the frick out of Delaware

I can see a case for that. Depending on how long he's lived in Delaware, he may find somewhere on The East Coast more agreeable. LA is, culturally and climatically speaking, often rough on native Angelenos, to say nothing of out-of-staters

 

[SW15]

Op just needs to get the frick out of Delaware.

I can see a case for that. Depending on how long he's lived in Delaware, he may find somewhere on The East Coast more agreeable.

Yes, I think that @BPH needs to leave Delaware. He's done well in Delaware in terms of getting notches. A lot of people wouldn't do that well in the mid-sized market that he's in, especially one overshadowed by 2 bigger metro areas (Philadelphia and Baltimore) within 75 miles.

He's lived in Delaware the majority of his life.

Philadelphia is the easiest move for him.

LA is, culturally and climatically speaking, often rough on native Angelenos, to say nothing of out-of-staters

If you're thinking about LA consider Phoenix/Scottsdale first OP. Better-adjusted women who are just as attractive, and much lower cost of living. Chicks who aren't as crazy as in CA, but also not as uptight as your typical east-coaster.

Both Los Angeles and Phoenix are going to be rough adjustments on someone from Delaware moving there with no social connections. @BPH 's looks will make it a little bit easier in terms of seduction.

Phoenix is the lower cost option but Phoenix isn't quite as inexpensive as it was 10-20 years ago. That was a comment I made in the first post in the Phoenix thread in 2022.

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Lots of people in Metro Phoenix are transplants. @BPH could do ok at the Old Town Scottsdale bars just based on being 6'0" and fit. Women at bars in Old Town Scottsdale also like money too, but some will consider looks alone good enough.

Los Angeles is more expensive and money matter too there. The social scene on Los Angeles' Westside (the most desirable part) is rather challenging. Being 6'0" and fit helps at Los Angeles bars too.

In both cities, he will get options from swipe apps on looks alone. There are more swipe app options in Los Angeles and Phoenix than Delaware.

 

[Solomon]

LA is bigger so yes you have more hot chicks who want to be part of Hollywood or live that lifestyle, but is it all hot girls walking down the street? hell no, there tons of fugglies too.

In LA it's very competitive, you're not just competing with actors, producers, musicians etc. But the random C-exec or influencer who has just as much money and in some cases (yes in some cases) more. Not saying you can't get a hottie but it's a vapid lifestyle. I have a buddy who does very well with women and has a social circle with legit models. However he has the exception not the rule (he is a videographer who has done very well througutout the year)

I haven't visited LA since 2020 and honestly, I do not miss it, lot of phonies, plastic and everyone is out there to be your "friend" if you've got something going on but to use you. It's a shallow place that lacks substance but if that's what you're into do you.