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Looks Money Status (LMS)

Starwolf

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Started this threat for us to share ideas on how to increase your LMS.

I've stopped reading about game and PUA Tacticts for a while now. and started to focus more on LMS and ANTI-DUMP MACHINE

If any of you agree that the above is the better way please also share what you have done for each or one of the following:

Your Looks

Your Money

Your Status


My own:
Looks:
Set up a home gym because i didn't like going to the gym.
Started walking/running everyday no excuses.
Grown and now maintaining a clean chinstrap beard
waiting to lose some more weight to invest in some quality clothes.

Money:
Noting exceptional yet, only savings at various banks

Status:
this is where i would like to get some extra ideas.
is it job status? social status?

currently i'm a system developer. but trying to start a business for myself. would you consider this as an increase in status? or is it purely based on the type of job. for instance are only lawyers and doctors regarded as high status?
 

jurry

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Its about what you consider status, not us or the girl. When you are confident and comfortable with who you are, then what she thinks is not important. When you put on this act and chase money and looks and status, it makes you look desperate and weak because it shows you do not believe you are enough on your own.

What is SHE doing to impress you? Who is she to take up your time?
 

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You can get status by being a leader or an influential member of a group. People look up to you and hence you have status. Also just by making progress in say your career, you can acquire status. As you become more and more senior, chances are this will be shown in your body language and mannerisms.
 

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Being a business owner has status.

You could own a cleaning or garbage collection company which employs hundreds of people and makes bank.

Or

you can have an IT consultancy that employs one or a handful of people and barely covers your cost of living.

The difference is that one business sounds higher status and a better business than the other.
 

Starwolf

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jurry said:
Its about what you consider status, not us or the girl. When you are confident and comfortable with who you are, then what she thinks is not important. When you put on this act and chase money and looks and status, it makes you look desperate and weak because it shows you do not believe you are enough on your own.

What is SHE doing to impress you? Who is she to take up your time?

I don't agree, You have to put in the needed work to increase your LMS. And once achieved it will stay with you for the long term. So how is this an "Act"?
you invested time in yourself to create a genuine better version of yourself. With that comes The added benefit of higher quality women starting to show interest.

also girls are always busy with their looks and their social status. she will spend hours doing her hair, nails and putting on make up and buying the latest fashion clothes. why do you think this is?

they want to look good, they want to be sexy, they want to impress friends and potential partners.

why is that not seen as desperate?
 

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Because womens value (in the sexual marketplace) is predominantly based off of looks, whereas mens value is based predominantly off of their presence and confidence, the way they make the woman feel.

By all means do those things if they are what you truly want to do, but not because you are trying to impress a woman. Thats about as beta and try-hard as it gets.

Women who spend excessive amounts of time on their looks are probably desperate as well in the same way, I agree.
 

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lol dont even bother

people on this site, are the typical pua sheep who believe looks dont matter at all
 

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Looks:
Started working out, it's a bit on and off. I do make excuses, but I do also get back to it. Being too hard on myself is counter-productive, it fvcks up status. I have a clearly defined hair style which I just stick to because I love it, and other people thinks so as well. I get chicks to pick out clothes for me, they know their sh!t a lot better than me. I have a varied diet, no extremes.

Money:
Working shifts as a chemical process operator at a refinery, basically I run the factory. It's below management and above other workers, I get to make hard decisions. I'm also trained in industrial firefighting, which takes more skill than regular firefighting. I make about $70k converted from NOK, I get extra for being a firefighter. Also there's potential to easily make more in the same job. I own a car and have my own apartment.

Status:
I have a group of close friends, all of which work hard and play hard. I spend a lot of time watching people, interactions and generally the dynamics of social games. I don't do it to look perfect, I do it to learn the best ways of expressing myself so I'm clearly understood in my intentions. At work I receive compliments for being good at teaching, which is harder than you think because you gotta know your sh!t and still be humble. I'm the guy who knows stuff, I'm just happy to help. I maintain my friendships by doing stuff with them, talking about random sh!t and having a good time. In return they help me with stuff and just recently they hooked me up with a girl, in addition they sincerely appreciate my company and tell good things about me. This is not really work anymore, I love doing it.

I want to make it clear though that I extremely rarely mention this stuff when talking to people, and if I do I mostly respond to questions or just casually throw it into a conversation if it happens to fit. To girls especially I don't talk about money, possessions or status. I don't point out things about my own looks either, they have eyes ffs.

Looks is obvious to everyone, and it would be a damn lie to say it doesn't matter at all. If you look like a bum you're assumed to be one. Status has to be worked for, and generally speaking you just can't be an a$$hole if you want to be respected by many people. Money is nothing but a means of exchanging value, it has a mountain of uses. More money means more possibilities. None of these things by themselves will attract women, but knowing you got your sh!t under control makes it impossible for women to attack your self-worth. Because you know what you've been through, you know you worked for it the right way, you know people like you and respect you, you know that what you do also benefits people around you and you know your looks are good. This is why I almost die laughing and come off as arrogant when people say negative things about me, in truth they are arrogant because they assume I'm a piece of sh!t without considering any of this. This is also why I'm careful about criticizing people, because for all I know a person may not be as bad as they seem at first glance.
 

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jurry said:
Its about what you consider status, not us or the girl. When you are confident and comfortable with who you are, then what she thinks is not important. When you put on this act and chase money and looks and status, it makes you look desperate and weak because it shows you do not believe you are enough on your own.

What is SHE doing to impress you? Who is she to take up your time?
I like this, except I think we all should chase money to some extent so we can live the life we want. However, letting money, looks, or status, control you because you think having that income will lead to more women as the outcome, is an external locus of control. From any psychology lecture you'll know that having any external locus of control is a one way ticket to depression town.
 

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Status:
I have a group of close friends, all of which work hard and play hard. I spend a lot of time watching people, interactions and generally the dynamics of social games. I don't do it to look perfect, I do it to learn the best ways of expressing myself so I'm clearly understood in my intentions. At work I receive compliments for being good at teaching, which is harder than you think because you gotta know your sh!t and still be humble. I'm the guy who knows stuff, I'm just happy to help. I maintain my friendships by doing stuff with them, talking about random sh!t and having a good time. In return they help me with stuff and just recently they hooked me up with a girl, in addition they sincerely appreciate my company and tell good things about me. This is not really work anymore, I love doing it.

I want to make it clear though that I extremely rarely mention this stuff when talking to people, and if I do I mostly respond to questions or just casually throw it into a conversation if it happens to fit. To girls especially I don't talk about money, possessions or status. I don't point out things about my own looks either, they have eyes ffs.

Looks is obvious to everyone, and it would be a damn lie to say it doesn't matter at all. If you look like a bum you're assumed to be one. Status has to be worked for, and generally speaking you just can't be an a$$hole if you want to be respected by many people. Money is nothing but a means of exchanging value, it has a mountain of uses. More money means more possibilities. None of these things by themselves will attract women, but knowing you got your sh!t under control makes it impossible for women to attack your self-worth. Because you know what you've been through, you know you worked for it the right way, you know people like you and respect you, you know that what you do also benefits people around you and you know your looks are good. This is why I almost die laughing and come off as arrogant when people say negative things about me, in truth they are arrogant because they assume I'm a piece of sh!t without considering any of this. This is also why I'm careful about criticizing people, because for all I know a person may not be as bad as they seem at first glance.
You explained it perfectly!

Genuine confidence that comes from having real value to back you up.

it's when guys don't have real value and using PUA/Game tactics that they keep coming back here to ask if what they did was good, if they where alpha enough, if they had good frame.

Work on yourself and just let the confidence come natural
 

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JohnChops said:
I like this, except I think we all should chase money to some extent so we can live the life we want. However, letting money, looks, or status, control you because you think having that income will lead to more women as the outcome, is an external locus of control. From any psychology lecture you'll know that having any external locus of control is a one way ticket to depression town.

I do agree that you should not let the external determine your happiness.
but some people go too far getting all new agey and spiritual with it..
 

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Starwolf said:
I do agree that you should not let the external determine your happiness.
but some people go too far getting all new agey and spiritual with it..
Ya I'm not spiritual at all but I know what you are mean. I like keeping things simple because things are simple.
 
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