Looks are more important than you think! Merged [Official thread]

[skip2mylou781]

(Skip is referring to domestic violence as an "out-of-this-world f'ucked up situation", here.)

Oh and guess what??? If the guy/girl was better looking in the eyes of their partner, then the partner would be less likely to want to physically/mentallly abuse their bf/gf

(He then says that most of the victims of domestic violence are not good-looking. Ask him for his sources on this.)

Religion-based breakups are purely for whackos who arent even real functional normal human beings

(He Then denounces born-again Christians as "non-functional human beings".)



This is the face of the "looks are everything" side, people. Choose your sides wisely.

YES domestic violence is a ****ed up situation.......it does NOTHING to prove or disprove how important looks are........thats like saying looks have somethin to do with getting robbed at gunpoint - domestic violence and looks are mutually exclusive so why use that example???

and YES when domestic violence does happen, its usually ****ed up looking people with ****ed up lives who sometimes are drunks or do drugs. My source for that is COMMON SENSE

u do NOT want to talk to me about religion, because i DO denounce people who are so religious that they let it take over their lives.......aka extreme religiousness, i am VERY against that.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Considered you tried to pick holes in what he said, you could have put forward a better argument yourself. All you did was give a sarcy response that didn't mean or prove anything, and say "so that proves me right". Which it doesn't.

Well, I did pretty much pick holes in his argument. you must be blind. He basically confirmed that he didnt see fugly blobs with hot chicks, which was one of his earlier points. he tried to sidestep the question by answering using an irrelevent question, I KNOW HE DIDNT SEE ANY FUGLY MEN WITH HOT *****ES. theres a hole.

he says his friend was a 7.5, which we know he was exagerrating a little bit. more like a 7 or 6.5. either way, its not uncommon to see barely above average chicks with BF's who they will admit arent good looking. barely above average chicks arent much in demand and take what the can get. he was presenting his friend as if it was evidence that the looks theory cant be true. I just showed how it is actually consistent with the theory. If that isnt considered a hole in somoenes counterpoint, then I dont know what is.

he also said that womens variance in taste is evidence looks dont mean ****. lol, He basically gave me that hole in his "anti-looks theory". Im still waiting for him to explain the logic in that one. Why would someone post such stupid evidence against their own argument? Im assuming hell be able to clear this oone up for me

Oh, and I used alot of sarcasm in my response, wasnt trying to create an awesome argument here. My goals in that post were:
-to show how his counter points are either wrong or not counterpoints at all (consistent with the theory, cuz the theory is correct). I easily succeeded in this one, its easy to do this when your side of the argument is the correct one.
-to throw in some sarcasm to spice it up. I had fun with this one. succeeded.
I had no goal of making an awesome argument, sorry to disappoint you mr.elor.

Maybe you can show me how an awesome argument is done that can prove the looks theory wrong mr.elor. So far, no one has come close to making such an argument.


If the looks theory is so wrong, why is it so hard for you guys to create an awesome argument that totally crushes the looks theory? I would expect this to be an easy one, :::if you were right:::: lol. so the fact that you cant create such an argument itself is evidence that you guys are wrong, and me and skip are right.

Thats a good question you guys will try to ignore, becuase you know exactly the answer to that question, and you dont want to admit it. :crackup:

 

[skip2mylou781]

IDIOT, the argument is, every BEAUTIFUL/HOT/GORGEOUS girl considers her boyfriend good looking, not EVERY GIRL PERIOD

so dumb

 

[skip2mylou781]

i am insulting your intelligence because the argument here does not involve girls who are under an HB8....so i do not care about all your hb3-hb7 examples of them dating not so good looking guys.

the HOTTEST of girls will always go for the HOTTEST of guys (in their eyes)

 

[skip2mylou781]

DUDE u seem to know so many gorgeous girls....in fact ur whole argument is "I know all the gorgeous girls that have ever dated average guys"

from what I KNOW, and what I SEE, and I HEAR, is that the hottest girls will always sa the following about their bf's:

"he is sooo hot"
"isnt he sexy??"
"hes sooooo cute/adorable, i love him!"
"my handsome man"

key words - all loosk related

NO HOT GIRL ever says or thinks the following about her man:

"hes average looking, but i love him cuz hes so sweet"
"i love my ugly looking but very talented musician bf"
"his personality overpowers his looks"

and so on so forth

the KEY UNDERLYING THOUGHT IN EVERY GORGEOUS GIRL'S MIND IS

"this guy is so hot that im glad hes MY man, just looking at him makes me smile and turns me on, and wow it really helps that hes so sweet/funny/successful too!!!"

looks comes first DEUX you DUMMY

 

[skip2mylou781]

its just a celebrity who random women are watching on tv........how many times do i gotta say that celebrities DO NOT APPLY!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

*Sigh* I notice nobody bothered to respond to my 'James Bond' argument. It's not the best example, but it does put forward a good point.

I think it provided a good point. But someone going to say that being a movie star still has something to do with it even though they didn't think he was attractive to begin with. It doesn't prove their point.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Makes me wonder what Nikki Cox ever saw in Bobcat Goldthwait or what Julia Roberts saw in Lylle Lovett. I don't think that either couple would have stayed together even if the guy looked better.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Come on, we all know good looking celebrities stay together for longer than the rest of us mere mortals, just look at Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt......

Do I hear the basis of another good counter argument?

 

[NorPacWolf]

I challenge ANYONE who has posted in this thread in the past year to post an actual field report about just ONE cold/warm/social circle approach you do in the upcoming week. Talk to a GIRL instead of arguing with each other here.

Wolf

 

[skip2mylou781]

mr elor - every **** counts!!! lol, the approach doesnt matter

 

[NorPacWolf]

Props to you nonetheless. You improved the FR to KJ b.s. theorizing ratio immensely. I'm being a bit sarcastic too. Nonetheless, every bit helps.

I was being a bit sarcy, my point was he presumed that all we do is argue on here without actually doing any approaching. Yeah, I do have my share of disagreements, what am I supposed to do, not disagree when I think the other person's in the wrong?

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Here we go again. No offense, but you're really not eloquent enough to make posts this long, man.

and your not eloquent enough to even rebutt my posts. Your logic is flawed, and your losing the argument.

barely above average chicks arent much in demand and take what the can get.

Nevermind the lack of truth in that statement. The argument was that every girl considers her boyfriend good-looking, which as we see here, is not true.

The theory says most if not all find their bf's attractive only if those women are good looking. again, a 7.5 really aint in high demand, so it means nothing bad for the theory if shes with a guy she sees as ugly.

he also said that womens variance in taste is evidence looks dont mean ****...Why would someone post such stupid evidence against their own argument? Im assuming hell be able to clear this oone up for me

I'd be happy too. Some attractive women like men that most women consider ugly. Evidence of ugly men getting attractive women, despite their looks.

yeah, you fvcked up here. you still failed to explain how different tastes mean women dont care about looks. how do you equate the two? again, same with men: men have different tastes, but we care about looks. according to your severely stupid and fvcked up logic, looks shouldnt mean **** for a woman trying to get a guy becuase men have different tastes. we know this is wrong. you cant equate variance in taste to looks not mattering. :crackup:

oh and correction, the theory says that woman must personally see you as attractive in her eyes to get her. a guy can be ulgy to most women, but to one girl, he can be cute to her. what it does not say is that you must be attractive to the general population to get a girl. try reading the theory and comprehending it before you starting posting bullsh1t on how it is wrong. :nono:

I had no goal of making an awesome argument, sorry to disappoint you mr.elor.

That's why you continously lose, resort to talking in all caps, and make statements that you can't back up.

oh and thats why your the one winning here? look at the point I just rebutted above this one, real good argument there! genius logic! really prove the theory wrong there, lol.

If the looks theory is so wrong, why is it so hard for you guys to create an awesome argument that totally crushes the looks theory?

I walk down street. I see ugly man with third new hot woman in one month period. Ugly man is confident with alpha personality. Man not famous or rich. I win.

so how do you know that hes ugly in the eyes of these women? exactly, you dont. oops, you dont win.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

DUDE u seem to know so many gorgeous girls....in fact ur whole argument is "I know all the gorgeous girls that have ever dated average guys"

from what I KNOW, and what I SEE, and I HEAR, is that the hottest girls will always sa the following about their bf's:

"he is sooo hot"
"isnt he sexy??"
"hes sooooo cute/adorable, i love him!"
"my handsome man"

key words - all loosk related

NO HOT GIRL ever says or thinks the following about her man:

"hes average looking, but i love him cuz hes so sweet"
"i love my ugly looking but very talented musician bf"
"his personality overpowers his looks"

and so on so forth

the KEY UNDERLYING THOUGHT IN EVERY GORGEOUS GIRL'S MIND IS

"this guy is so hot that im glad hes MY man, just looking at him makes me smile and turns me on, and wow it really helps that hes so sweet/funny/successful too!!!"

looks comes first DEUX you DUMMY

AMEN!! face it, hot women are with men they find attractive! I agree, I hear gorgeous women always bragging about how sexy and hot their bf is. Girls Ive been with also bragged about me, hmmmm, I wonder why. maybe cuz they thought I looked good, maybe that why they got with me. duhhhhhh!

 

[skip2mylou781]

AMEN!! face it, hot women are with men they find attractive! I agree, I hear gorgeous women always bragging about how sexy and hot their bf is. Girls Ive been with also bragged about me, hmmmm, I wonder why. maybe cuz they thought I looked good, maybe that why they got with me. duhhhhhh!

YES and at the same time, while I personally am a 7/10 I think, the gf's I have had always tell me how hot and gorgeous I am, and they also tell me "ooo i showed ur picture to my friends, they all think you are hot"

I have had the above told to me by EVERY girlfriend i ever had!!! sexy gorgeous girls will ALWAYS want a boyfriend who's looks they can brag about - everything else is secondary to looks and physical attraction.

also, before i hear another "i saw an ugly guy with a hot chick" argument, let me REITERRATE:

A GUY WHOS NOT SHAVED AND HAS LONG HAIR AND IS SKINNY IS UGLY TO YOU, BUT TO HIS HB9 GIRLFRIEND, HE IS GOOD LOOKING BECAUSE SHE HAS A THINK FOR GUYS WITH LONG HAIR AND SOME SCRUFINESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE IN A ROCK BAND (just an example)

so yes, to YOU fagg0ts the guy looks like a 3, but guess what??? YOU DONT LIKE GUYS WITH LONG HAIR WHO DONT SHAVE........but this particular chick (and she is the MINORITY, not the MAJORITY), she thinks it looks hot and sexy, thats why shes with him. In each other's eyes they are both 9/10.

However, there is also a known "majority" kind of look that attracts MOST girls (most likely over 80% of girls), and that is ripped abs, gorgeous face, great muscle definition, and a b1g d1ck - there is no doubt that MOST women will find that hot!!!

LOOKS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, SO GO WORK ON THEM!!

 

[Holland]

First:
There is a difference between looks and appearance.
Looks are genetic
Appearance is how you take care of yourself

Second:
This thread is started by a woman. How can I be sure that her interpretations aren't being altered by attraction. Her perceptions are different than mine. She might think a guy is good looking because he's highly sexual and masculine, while I base it on entirely different terms (like if he has a handsome face etc.)

Conclusion:
-Looks matter, but not that much.
-Appearance, masculinity and sexuality are much more important

First is not fixable, the other three are so FOCUS ON THOSE AND STOP EXCUSING!


Skipmylou, are you still worrying over this Shiit? Dude, get over it. It doesn't fuucking matter!
And BTW, basing your opinion on something that a women says in learning about women is the worst mistake you could make.
(not saying that women are stupid, they are different, they don't see things the same way as we do)

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...
-Looks matter, but not that much.
-Appearance, masculinity and sexuality are much more important

First is not fixable, the other three are so FOCUS ON THOSE AND STOP EXCUSING!

:rockon:

 

[skip2mylou781]

First:
There is a difference between looks and appearance.
Looks are genetic
Appearance is how you take care of yourself

Second:
This thread is started by a woman. How can I be sure that her interpretations aren't being altered by attraction. Her perceptions are different than mine. She might think a guy is good looking because he's highly sexual and masculine, while I base it on entirely different terms (like if he has a handsome face etc.)

Conclusion:
-Looks matter, but not that much.
-Appearance, masculinity and sexuality are much more important

First is not fixable, the other three are so FOCUS ON THOSE AND STOP EXCUSING!


Skipmylou, are you still worrying over this Shiit? Dude, get over it. It doesn't fuucking matter!
And BTW, basing your opinion on something that a women says in learning about women is the worst mistake you could make.
(not saying that women are stupid, they are different, they don't see things the same way as we do)

my gfs didnt JUSt say I am hot, they also fvcked me over and over and over due to it. so i did not base my theory on WORDS, i based it on ACTIONS

 

[belividere]

my gfs didnt JUSt say I am hot, they also fvcked me over and over and over due to it. so i did not base my theory on WORDS, i based it on ACTIONS

Your never going to know the true meaning of a womans actions, its a pointless exercise to even try. Fvcking something because their good looking is what guys do, its logical and makes sense. Women fvck things because of emotions not logical thought. Logically speaking because my life is not run by my emotions I cannot really every deduce, predict, or understand the true point of a womans actions. To do so would cause my head to explode.

You are trying to logically deduce you getting laid to you being hot. Great ego stroke for yourself but probably not the truth. You could just as easily draw the connection that you got laid by a girl with something dramatic and emotional that has recently occured to her. You getting laid is just a consequence of that event, not a consequence of your looks. Will you ever actually know? No, you wont nor can you unless you find a group of girls who are willing to become emotionally attached to you and still tell you the truth. When you manage to do that call me and let me know because it is seemingly impossible.

And you guys dont have any "theory" what you are arguing is common sense and you keep changing your definitions to fit your so called theory. Yes people procreate with those that they are attracted to. But girls are not logical and do not create simple numerical grading scales like guys. Girls are utterly irrational most of the time and have some impossible systematic breakdown of every guy based on the time of day, alignment of the moon, comparison to their past boyfriends, and whether or not they feel fat in the pants there wearing. You guys really think that girls simply just fvck who they think is hot?

 

[DEUS EX PIAN0FORTE]

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