Look, if you can't get a woman to love you

[backbreaker]

get her to fvckign hate your guts.

As the song goes, It's a thin line between love and hate. it's a very thin line.

I got this buddy of mine, he's trying to court one of our other friends. honestly she just isn't into him. he's not ugly, she just doesn't feel anything for him. that's the key. she doesn't feel anything. and he goes about trying to take her to the movies and being very complmantry and stuff and I mean, it's just not there. it's not that he's ugly. she just doesn't like him. or hate him. she doesn't antyhing him.

we were watching the game last night, and my wife comes in and she says something stupid and i crack on her infront of everyone and she calls me a jerk lol. of course this lasts all of like 2 minutes and i make up with her and i start kissing her on her neck and all is forgiven. and my friend was like dude, if i ahd your wife i woudl never make her mad i don't see why you are so mean.

what i am trying to explain to him, and i suppose to you, is that, love and hate, are really the same thing. it's just a different side of the coin so to speak. a woman has to love you TO hate you. and the emotional roller coaster that goes from one side of the coin to the other is what gets women off. u just can't always be this super nice beta male guy it doesn't work unless she is seriously attracted to you and even then it will wear off.

and she doesn't hate me, she is pretty thick skinned and knows i joke like that and she has a tounge on her as well so it goes both ways but the point is, i'm not always doing things that will make her happy. sometimes i will do things that will piss her off or make her rile up or say something that gets under her skin. i dont' go out of my way to do it but if i feel it warranted i dont' hold back

you know i chased my oneitis for 6 years. for 6 years, that girl was my dream girl. she was perfect to me. her **** did not stink for 6 years. it was not unti i had mentally moved on and realized okay that is not going to happen oh well that i started to noticed things about her i really did not like. like girl, you are boring as fvck you know that lol. do you ever do anything unpredictable? i can go to every restaurant in the city and tell you what she will order off the top of my head and be 100% right. or the fact that she coudl not cook a meal if her life depended on it. **** a lot of times i would cook something and she woudl come to my house to get a plate no one in their house cooked they all ate out every night. when facebook came out i started messing with her about that.

ironically enough, the funninest thing happened. she got defensive. i had nefver seen her like that. she started going out of her way to try to prove to herself or me i don't know that she wasn't what i said she was. she tried to cook new ****. she even tried to cook ME new ****. and i just played along with this **** just testing my new DJ superpowers out lol i didn't know what the fvck i was doing but i knew i was having fun, and lo and behold i knew i had her when she was over my house one day and i told her she had to go because i had a date and i saw the look in her eyes, i had negver seen that before she was jealous.

now granted, int hat time period i also made a pretty significant physical transformation and for the first time in my life was actually "cut". but i had never been ugly at all and she had always thought i was good looking.

game.. is like a boxing match. you just can't go in a match with a good right hook you will get killed. you got to have a jab. you have to have a good straight punch. you got to bob and weave. game is all that. you can't always be happy complimentary positive guy. you got to get on a girl sometimes , piss her off. **** you aren't fvcking her now anyway what can you lose. if a girl is talkign too much and you honestly think she is talking too much tell her "damn girl do you ever just shut the fvck up god damn woman lol this isn't a race slow down".

dont' go out of your way to piss a woman off, that's not what i am saying and the vast majority of the time mr and mrs backbreaker are very happy very agreeable. but if she is urking me i will tell her or if she does something i dont' agree with i will tell her. get pissed off i don't give a ****. i mean i do give a **** she's my wife but you get what i mean

 

[Naughty Ninja]

get her to fvckign hate your guts.

As the song goes, It's a thin line between love and hate. it's a very thin line.

I got this buddy of mine, he's trying to court one of our other friends. honestly she just isn't into him. he's not ugly, she just doesn't feel anything for him. that's the key. she doesn't feel anything. and he goes about trying to take her to the movies and being very complmantry and stuff and I mean, it's just not there. it's not that he's ugly. she just doesn't like him. or hate him. she doesn't antyhing him.

we were watching the game last night, and my wife comes in and she says something stupid and i crack on her infront of everyone and she calls me a jerk lol. of course this lasts all of like 2 minutes and i make up with her and i start kissing her on her neck and all is forgiven. and my friend was like dude, if i ahd your wife i woudl never make her mad i don't see why you are so mean.

what i am trying to explain to him, and i suppose to you, is that, love and hate, are really the same thing. it's just a different side of the coin so to speak. a woman has to love you TO hate you. and the emotional roller coaster that goes from one side of the coin to the other is what gets women off. u just can't always be this super nice beta male guy it doesn't work unless she is seriously attracted to you and even then it will wear off.

and she doesn't hate me, she is pretty thick skinned and knows i joke like that and she has a tounge on her as well so it goes both ways but the point is, i'm not always doing things that will make her happy. sometimes i will do things that will piss her off or make her rile up or say something that gets under her skin. i dont' go out of my way to do it but if i feel it warranted i dont' hold back

you know i chased my oneitis for 6 years. for 6 years, that girl was my dream girl. she was perfect to me. her **** did not stink for 6 years. it was not unti i had mentally moved on and realized okay that is not going to happen oh well that i started to noticed things about her i really did not like. like girl, you are boring as fvck you know that lol. do you ever do anything unpredictable? i can go to every restaurant in the city and tell you what she will order off the top of my head and be 100% right. or the fact that she coudl not cook a meal if her life depended on it. **** a lot of times i would cook something and she woudl come to my house to get a plate no one in their house cooked they all ate out every night. when facebook came out i started messing with her about that.

ironically enough, the funninest thing happened. she got defensive. i had nefver seen her like that. she started going out of her way to try to prove to herself or me i don't know that she wasn't what i said she was. she tried to cook new ****. she even tried to cook ME new ****. and i just played along with this **** just testing my new DJ superpowers out lol i didn't know what the fvck i was doing but i knew i was having fun, and lo and behold i knew i had her when she was over my house one day and i told her she had to go because i had a date and i saw the look in her eyes, i had negver seen that before she was jealous.

now granted, int hat time period i also made a pretty significant physical transformation and for the first time in my life was actually "cut". but i had never been ugly at all and she had always thought i was good looking.

game.. is like a boxing match. you just can't go in a match with a good right hook you will get killed. you got to have a jab. you have to have a good straight punch. you got to bob and weave. game is all that. you can't always be happy complimentary positive guy. you got to get on a girl sometimes , piss her off. **** you aren't fvcking her now anyway what can you lose. if a girl is talkign too much and you honestly think she is talking too much tell her "damn girl do you ever just shut the fvck up god damn woman lol this isn't a race slow down".

dont' go out of your way to piss a woman off, that's not what i am saying and the vast majority of the time mr and mrs backbreaker are very happy very agreeable. but if she is urking me i will tell her or if she does something i dont' agree with i will tell her. get pissed off i don't give a ****. i mean i do give a **** she's my wife but you get what i mean

True story. And you'd better be the real deal like Floyd Mayweather and not a fraudulent one dimensional made for T.V actor like Manny Pacquiao.

 

[FairShake]

I think this is BAD advice. Making a woman hate you will absolutely not make her love you. If she's into you, you can get away with saying things that cause beef and, if used correctly and rarely, it can heighten the tenstion.

However, if she isn't into you, you will be a creepy azzhole to use their vernacular. The majority of beta AFCs aren't nice guy supplicators, but cluelessly awkward "creepy azzholes."

 

[Die Hard]

So basically, what you're saying is: being too much of a nice guy hurts your success with women.

Thanks for sharing your groundbreaking thought, backbreaker...

 

[HalfAddict]

Mayweather is nothing to Pac man dude.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Mayweather is nothing to Pac man dude.

I KNEW there were Pactards on these forums!!! How's it feel knowing that Ms. 'constant leg cramps' Pacman couldn't K.O. nor get the nod over a man with two hurt ankles? Hahahahahaha

 

[Findog]

If backbreaker is saying that a woman has to have strong feelings of passion to get pissed at you, then he would be correct. If he is advocating be a straight-up jerk, then that won't work. It's not the @ssholish behavior that I think women are drawn to, it's the cavalier attitude and charm that accompanies it. They are giving you a pass for this. It also communicates that you see her as either your equal or that you're even above her. It's hard to master this, and like I said, it's not that you're being kind of a **** that turns them on, it's the Alpha attitude about it that turns them on.

A woman will be turned on by a James Bond-type busting her balls and teasing her in a ****ish sort of way. She'll be repulsed by an Asperger's type being cruel or a complete jerk to her without any social skills or grace behind that behavior. If you're busting her balls and teasing her and she responds by rolling her eyes and punching you lightly in the arm and saying things like "No! That's not what I meant! Stop teasing me!" and you have this rapport going, you're good. If she's honestly repulsed by what you say or do to the point that she b*tchslaps you or tells you off, that's not good.

 

[AW1983]

It's not the @ssholish behavior that I think women are drawn to, it's the cavalier attitude and charm that accompanies it.

For naturals, it's two parts of the same whole and both sides come out naturally in different situations. I think that's what BB is alluding to. A charming, cavalier guy will by necessity have to be an ahole from time to time to keep his woman in check. And he can get away with it because she knows he'll always have options. This has been my personal experience.

EDIT: Might I add - these "nice guys" aka Captain-Save-a-Ho's in waiting, like BB's friend in his story bug the sh!t out of me. Like when you're in public and tease your girl for a sec in a group of people and then there's that one AFC goon who has to jump in and say "oh I would never say that to my gf" or some sh!t like that. I usually either reply with either a silent smirk and a look at them like they are the goon that they are, or make some faux-innocent reply like "oh, where is your gf tonight?" (Because of course they don't have one). Still irritates me on the inside though. Like I want to pull chumpsauce aside and beat him over the head with a red pill ugly stick. For his own good. And the betterment of Mankind.

 

[st_99]

i banged this girl a little while back a couple times and although i didn't have any kind of infatuation for her, i certainly would have dated her.

Anyway, she had this attitude and played it off like, "whatever, men are a dime a dozen and I'm used to them sucking up to me" So, i never even cared to follow up with any date requests or anything like that.

A little while later, we where casually out one night with her and her friend and I just grabbed her around the waste in a playful way and she screamed "get your damn hands off of me!" in a really angry, emotional tone.

I'm like... uhm, yeah, she totally has feelings for me. :yes:

 

[living-proof]

BB is right on the money for more reasons than he listed. Being willing to say something that you KNOW will piss off a girl and all her friends is a good way to show you have other options. You are saying you will get laid even if everyone of them hates you.

 

[typical]

I KNEW there were Pactards on these forums!!! How's it feel knowing that Ms. 'constant leg cramps' Pacman couldn't K.O. nor get the nod over a man with two hurt ankles? Hahahahahaha

It's because they don't like the fact that Mayweather has worked damn long and hard and knows he can run his mouth because he can back it up. Pacman is doing the talking but really he ain't doing the walking.

Agree with BB thin line between love and hate and most women love AND hate you at the same time.

 

[blueeyedgent]

I think backbreaker is onto something, but its anger not HATE that you are generating.

You're a man, you don't apologize for it, you continue to pursue your passions, you do some things apart. It keeps you interesting and if she gets angry about it, so be it.

Its better than the alternative where she starts running rough shod all over your life, loses respect for you and ends up banging the next door neighbour...