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I believe the most relevant line is "those men wont make good citizens".

You can bet your ass they wont, choked from rules, limitations, taxes and not even getting laid, let alone appreciated.
Unfortunately, they’ll remain far better citizens than they should be. The reason why they struggle is because society and women can sense their better nature, and know they can be taken advantage of. Only very occasionally do any of them “snap.”
 

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I really wouldn’t take the “cleaning house” types on here too seriously
We are all running a race. Some better than others. If we pay attention on someone else's track too much then we don't be able to do our own track. What we don't get done on our own track is something we have to own. Just like we missing all of the shots we don't take even if the miss rate is 99% otherwise - if you miss that 1%, then you've missed out.

Progress means different things to different people, even if its getting a girlfriend, a nice connection with someone in a LDR, whatever works. Not everybody needs to be a player or have rotations in order to be happy with themselves and what they are getting out of life. Honestly, I don't have one envious bone in my body to others who are cleaning house in that way.
 

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We are all running a race. Some better than others. If we pay attention on someone else's track too much then we don't be able to do our own track. What we don't get done on our own track is something we have to own. Just like we missing all of the shots we don't take even if the miss rate is 99% otherwise - if you miss that 1%, then you've missed out.

Progress means different things to different people, even if its getting a girlfriend, a nice connection with someone in a LDR, whatever works. Not everybody needs to be a player or have rotations in order to be happy with themselves and what they are getting out of life. Honestly, I don't have one envious bone in my body to others who are cleaning house in that way.
You’re really just demoralized at this point. Nobody with any sense of justice can look at the current state of affairs with anything but malice.
 

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You’re really just demoralized at this point. Nobody with any sense of justice can look at the current state of affairs with anything but malice.
Where are you on the incel-player spectrum? I'm incel myself but oddly feel rather blissful rather than miserable. I take it you are pissed?
 

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Where are you on the incel-player spectrum? I'm incel myself but oddly feel rather blissful rather than miserable. I take it you are pissed?
Don’t meet the technical definition of an incel, but I am one in spirit. I guess that makes me a fakecell
 

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What’s unfortunate about it? The reality is that there’s a shocking lack of violence in society.
Nothing unfortunate if its a good old fist fight. Some of these young men though are becoming mass shooters.
 

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Interesting replies. Can an average guy with strong enough game make it through the the current social media culture that is tilted in favor of women and secure a long-term relationship with high-quality girl, or are his days numbered?
There's a difference between empowering women and tilting in women's favor. What this is really doing is empowering and favoring the people in charge. This culture is punishing hard working people and rewarding recklessness.
 

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What’s unfortunate about it? The reality is that there’s a shocking lack of violence in society.
Without extraordinarily accessible porn, there would be a lot more violence.
 

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There's a difference between empowering women and tilting in women's favor. What this is really doing is empowering and favoring the people in charge. This culture is punishing hard working people and rewarding recklessness.

What are some positive suggestions that you would recommend for those who feel like they are getting the short end of the stick?
 

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What are some positive suggestions that you would recommend for those who feel like they are getting the short end of the stick?
Hard working people are getting the short end of the stick so to speak because of social engineering. Knowing this and acting accordingly is a huge opportunity to get ahead of the competition. Where ever there is turmoil there is opportunity.
 

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When an anti-masculinity, left-leaning media outlet (yes, "media" outlet, not news organization) like CNN senses that there could be catastrophic consequences of alienating and vilifying men, then you know the problem is already beyond helping.

But at least CNN makes their stance clear: at 3:00 the dude says that he's worried lonely men won't buy into the climate change nonsense and other left-leaning agenda.

So CNN is only concerned about men's well-being only in so far as they're worried men will increasingly reject their left-leaning narrative.

Young zoomer men have literally ZERO options for financial growth, 99% of them are destined to be broke serfs in a new Feudal System...
 
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What is there to say? Society will burn to the waterline before it will ever apportion blame or accountability to women for anything. The lying, posturing and deflection will continue until the sun scalds the life from the face of this wretched Earth and justice is, by cosmic happenstance, served at last.
 

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I don't doubt it's harder than it's ever been, but I also see a lot of guys that don't bring much to the table.
 

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I don't doubt it's harder than it's ever been, but I also see a lot of guys that don't bring much to the table.
When you say that there are a lot of guys who don't bring much to the table, what do you mean, specifically? What should they bring specifically to the table? And would you agree that there are many women who are in relationships despite not bringing much to the table other than, well, you know?
 

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some of my friend group, who used to do ok with women, are now very single. Something has changed.
What do your friends think has caused the change in their success rate with women? What do you think?
 
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