horaholic said:Exactly. A guy slvtting around is doing what nature has programmed him to do. A girl slvtting around is doing what freinds, and media programs her to do.
it is an accomplishment for a guy to bed many women. It is an accomplishment for a female to refrain from bedding many men.
I dont like, and have little respect for slvts. Just because I might bang them doesnt mean I condone their behaviour. I would encourage my sister, or daughter to lead a normal and healthy love life.
Well I think what your saying might have some applicability in the big picture. But if you think women are actually following just any men's lead or just any type of lead, then I have to say that you are gullible. You just think women are following your lead but they're really doing whatever they want to do and following the lead of several guys they choose to.Trader said:You are condoning slutty behavior with your slutty behavior - it takes 2 to tango
That's why STR8UP was a joke
He kept talking about how women are amoral
I get that
We all get that
But then he starts acting all *amoral* himself to combat this and then continues to complain about women
This a classic example of: 'Oh uh...don't do as I do, do as I say'
I'm not saying you can't be a player, all I'm saying is keep it REAL. If you're a player then you better accept sluts as well.
Guys lead, girls follow.
If a girl respects you, there's a higher chance she will follow your lead.Stagger Lee said:Well I think what your saying might have some applicability in the big picture. But if you think women are actually following just any men's lead or just any type of lead, then I have to say that you are gullible. You just think women are following your lead but they're really doing whatever they want to do and following the lead of several guys they choose to.
Do you really think any woman is following your lead personally? I seriously doubt you and in this day and age are really leading women any where. At best they are probably just playing the good girl ruse on you and when you aren't watching slvting it up with some other guy(s).
I'm not blaming anyone. All I'm saying is it is laughable for a man to disparage sluts, and then slut it up himself.Stagger Lee said:You can blame all men and not the women for their own behavior, but I blame both. Also you are saying to be honest and slvt it up with slvts as if it's that easy to tell, but women can continue to operate by deception.
Girls are responsible for their own behavior but they are highly influenced by menStagger Lee said:Either women are wholly responsible for their own behavior independent of men, or women are not sovereign adults. You must pick one. You can't have it both ways.
That's just it that is a big "If". Women don't respect men much anymore to begin with and what do women tend to respect? Not the nice, moral guy who wants just a relationship with one girl, I'll tell you that. Therein lies the problem. This is women's "fault" not the men who act immoral/amoral.Trader said:If a girl respects you, there's a higher chance she will follow your lead.
True but just because she doesn't sleep with you or date you that sure doesn't mean she respects you either. And it doesn't mean she isn't dating and sleeping with other guy and respecting players and jerks.FYI: just because she dates you, doesn't mean she respects you. Just because she sleeps with you, doesn't necessarily mean she respects you either.
It's not really laughable at all. As I explained the same men who are disparaging slvts and slvting it up themselves, may respect a non-slvt and be in a commited relationship if they could find a girl like that. Besides to hold men and women to identical standards is sort of a feminist idea.I'm not blaming anyone. All I'm saying is it is laughable for a man to disparage sluts, and then slut it up himself.
But you are saying tit for tat is right. Why don't women follow a second option that I've been alluding to? Why don't women ever pick guys who don't slvt it up and are really into them? That would be a novel concept, eh? But they generally do not.I'm not blaming anyone - I am just making an observation that a man's license to slut it up, automatically gives the girl (in her mind) the license to slut it up as well. There are no two ways around it.
This is just women wanting every preceived advantage of men but none of the disadvantages. This is just women wanting to be slvts in the first place and providing justification later. When do you hear women say, "Hey it's not fair, if men fight in wars, they are hereos, if we do it we are masculine! And so she then proceeds to enlist in the Marines. It's a bogus female argument.That's why I have had girls complain to me: 'Hey it's not fair, if men sleep around, they are players, if we do it we are sluts!' And so then she proceeds to get her sluttiness on.
But first off you are contradicting yourself. Men do have moral standards that they don't want a relationship with a slvt. Has that really stopped most women from being slvts or picking a man for a relationship? No! But what you are saying is all men should refuse slvts (and basically do women's job), and that will fix them. It just doesn't work because a woman will play the good girl ruse, have sex with you, dump you and play the ruse on the next moral guy.Girls look to guys to set the moral standard. When guys have no standards, girls follow them into the abyss.
That's an unproven conclusion based on my above arguments. Women created this mess. Most feminist were women. The government and some men allowed it, but the main point is it is what women pushed for and said they demanded.That's why this thread is pointless - we men created the mess ourselves, and now we are complaining and moaning about it. How girly.
Girls are responsible for their own behavior but they are highly influenced by men
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Kids are dumb and they will learn in time, so don't sweat the small stuff. So what? She likes to slut around, she'll learn in time it's not good for her. All these people trying to keep kids from experimenting forget that they are old enough to make their own decisions, even though some of those decisions are mistakes. If you coddle people, they turn out to be morons. Sure you give positive input, but stop trying to be her mom. Her parents are the ones who make those kinds of decisions. Leave your nose out of her business and she will respect you for the rest of your life. My sister and me are inseparable. No one comes between us. I will kill for her, so don't tell me that I was wrong for doing what her parents were too dumb to do: Let her make her own mistakes, so she can own her life and realize she was dumb.Slickster said:Maybe the OP should just ignore his sister and pray that she only bangs a few of his friends and ends up a church goer like your sis huh?
Slickster said:Well I work with teenagers for a living and can tell you that they are extremely easy to influence. Turning problem kids around happens all the time where I work. They are surrounded by positive role models and other kids who buy into the system.?
You get it wrong. Having sex is all right. When you are mature, you know what you are doing, it is not for status and because "my friends do it", and you have your own platform to stand on. Being a kid who sleeps around because it is cool and gives her status, is not okay. A sixteen-year-old saying she is "proud" to be a slut doesn't know what she is doing.Crow said:Do you like to sleep with strangers? This seems to be a little bit hypocritical to judge her for behavior that is normative for us.
So family looking after each other is "coddling"? A sixteen-year-old kid thinking she is an adult because she hit puberty, thinking it is cool to be a slut because young MTV stars act like *****s, should not get any advice from her parents and older brother who know life far more than she does? Perhaps you will think differently when you have kids some day.fertileTurtle said:Kids are dumb and they will learn in time, so don't sweat the small stuff. So what? She likes to slut around, she'll learn in time it's not good for her. All these people trying to keep kids from experimenting forget that they are old enough to make their own decisions, even though some of those decisions are mistakes. If you coddle people, they turn out to be morons.
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I mostly agree but the way I would phrase it is, "If a pregnancy arises, and the slvt has been sleeping around, it's the man that could be stuck with the consequences of some other guy's b-word child. Mama's baby, papa's maybe.speakeasy said:Of course there's different implications for a man sleeping around versus a woman. If a pregnancy arises, it's the woman that's going to be stuck with the consequences. Look how many young single moms are out there these days. From just that perspective it's not simply not smart for a women to want to slvt around.