Little advice?

[snowdog]

Alright. All of this is already posted in my self improvement topic, but since I rarely get any responses on there, I figure I'll make a seperate topic.

Part 1

One senior year girl led our group. And man, I can't believe how hot she is every time if I think about her. Seriously. I have never seen a girl that f*cking hot in real life ever. I mean really. She was really f*cking hot. Easily the hottest one of all the 400-500 girls that were there in the area. Ever met one of those girls where you just forget about everything around her and only notice her? Like she fills up the room. She was one of those. Everywhere she walked guys just went dead silent, admiring her beauty (and ass). And i'm not exaggerating. She had a really pretty face, an insanely perfect figure, beautiful legs and she wore clothes that fitted her like they were custom made for her. I've met really hot girls before as you can read in this thread but this one was in a league of her own. Ho-ly fu*cking sh*t she was HOT. And she knew it. It was also one of the most arrogant girls I had ever met, and normally I'd given up on her after the first chat. Uber hard-to-get. Now though, I wasn't intimidated by her hotness, and her nasty attitude. I should say I just didn't picked it up. She even completely ignored me a couple of times when I was talking to her while standing three feet away. I'd just say her name to get her attention, and repeated what I said before. We talked a lot, I even kino-ed her a lot and she ended up giving her number to me. I still don't know how I ever did that. I'm definitely going to give her a call in the course of next week.

next week

I dropped the uber hot b*tch (11) a message. I wonder how that one will develop. Also still got her number. I will use that as the next step.

Next day

Walked into the 11 today. I was a bit akward. Some dumbass groundworker damaged a major water pipe in my area so I hadn't shaved or washed myself. I had a bit of a cold so I didn't have my contacts in and wore my glasses. I looked and felt like a piece of sh*t hobo. I even smelled myself at the end of the day - old sweat.

I approached her anyway with my pirate beard and messy hair. I said something like hi, talked for a sec... I apologized for my "salvation army look". I just brought that up out of the blue. It was stupid, but funny now I think back of it. I couldnt' tell if she thought it was funny. Just as I wanted to take off she asked me something, I don't know what. We talked a bit more. I'll take that as a little IOI that she sorta called me back. And if not, I'll tell it to myself for my ego haha. I had to leave for class. While I was leaving I said: "hey, I'm still getting a message back from you". I tickled her back as I walked off. I kept walking and she said something after me like "I'll do it when I have the time". She didn't send anything this day. I'll wait till friday till I take some more action. If I walk into her again, I'm not even gonna bring it up again. I'm a noob at this sh*t, and I'm hunting the hardest-to-get girls. Why? I dunno. I can tell a lot of dudes are scared of her. When I'm talking to her I feel other guys looking at us like "Wtf man, you aren't suppost to talk to her. She's way too hot".

On to today. She don't react to my sh*t. Should I just call her out of the blue? I hate texting. That sh*t can be ignored to easily.

 

[nicelife]

nah man, she acknowledged that she got your msg, theres no excuses for her, its her turn to reply. Dont be like every other guy whos tried to get with her, just be patient and act like its not a big deal to you that she hasnt replied, cos she isnt the center of your universe (even though in your head atm she is ).

Keep talking to her in person etc, kino, all that **** that you already know about, if you play your cards right that reply should come sooner or later.

Dont chase her, you've got some respect from treating her like any other person most likely, dont blow it by coming off like every other guy shes turned down.


Also what did you text her in the first place? You probably should of just called her and set up a date to skip the **** around, cos your the man and you know what you want ;D

 

[snowdog]

Yea... you're really 100% right. The reason I didn't just call her is the same reason why I still regulary visit this forum. I'm not the man yet that I want to be.

The thing is, I'm afraid that she gets taken by some other guy now she's on the market. Hot girls like that are never available for long. I wonder if it''s already too late to just call her?

Man I hate asking stupid sh*t like this. It makes me feel like a chump all over again.

 

[snowdog]

Hey guys, come on.

 

[wjh]

The reason you're so nervous or anxious about this girl is solely because of how hot she is. I know the feeling.

But the best way to get over that is to crash and burn (or possibly score). She won't be the last hot girl you'll ever run into, so better crash and burn with this girl and risk looking like an idiot so that next time around (and I promise you there will be a next time), you won't need advice.

You know how to kino effectively, you just have to bring value as a man to the equation. That's typically what normal hot girls like. Super hot girls are in their prime in their youth while young guys aren't, so the tide is working against you. Your market value in terms of success/looks/etc. is not as high as it will be. So take this opportunity to learn from this.

I'd rather you lose this girl and learn something that prepares you for models in the future, than score with this girl somehow and not learn jack.

Whatever you do don't turn AFC. Don't worry about what she thinks and if you're being too aggressive. Don't think you're not good enough for her, even if she tells that you you aren't, and go in for the kill. Grab your balls and get what you want. Even if she rejects you, brush yourself off and try again! Persistance in this case wouldn't be bad. You already got her number, now's the time to be calm, cool, and ballsy with her. She'll like it, she's probably bored with most guys anyway. Give her some excitement.

 

[snowdog]

Yea... alright. The thing is, I'm holding myself back to call her ya know? Really, lately I don't really care anymore to take action; I just do it. Just today I talked to like 3 random girls on the subway and waiting for the bus.

I already dropped her a message which she ignored and I even mentioned it later on in the week. I would love nothing more then to call her but that would probably make me look needy. ...And if I **** that one up, I crash and burn as you said. I know that one wrong phonecall can ruin it. Normally I wouldn't care too much about it, but I think I sorta have a crush on this girl...

 

[wjh]

So what if it comes off needy? You're not needy you just think she's really hot and you want a piece. By not calling you're just giving up. You think she'll just fall into your lap? Call you up and tell you she wants to suck on your d1ck? No way man.

You've got to excite this girl by bringing her into your awesome world.

And if you world isn't awesome, well you're working on that so oh well if it's not. You do the best you can with what you have and move on. It's not an excuse to not try (and risk crashing and burning) because this is all part of your development anyway.

Look when you take these risks you grow stronger... Don't you want to be stronger for the hordes of women you'll be attracting in the future? Don't you want to get over these negative, chump-like feelings you have? You owe it to yourself to push yourself man.

 

[snowdog]

Haha alright. I just got off the phone. I called with the excuse that I needed a book for school. She's in her 2nd year. She said she would ask her classmates and would call me back around tuesday. From that part on it went sorta like this:

Me: Okay thanks. And, do you have time sunday?
Her: No, I gotta hockey then
Me: I meant like in the evening?
Her: Well I'm busy with school and stuff, why?
Me: Feel like having a drink together and chill out?
Her: No I'm really busy with school
Me: Well alright... I'll hear back from you anyway in the course of next week. We'll talk about this then.
Her: Sure, yea.
Me: Alright, see you next week

Meh, don't look too good to me. But fukk it, at least I called. And who knows. I kept my cool and didn't talk nervous.

 

[Randallpink83]

cool good job man!! great efforts!!! making a move on the "hottest girl" is fvckin hard.

its time to scratch this chicken off your paper though. the interactions are already stale.

or maybe start fvckin with her a little... I like Tims idea - just text her right now with "your ****" make sure not to spell it correctly like "You're" so that way atleast she will text back and be like "its you're not your" ..whatever. but its in a fun flirty way... you aren't actually mad at her like "YOUR ****".lol

but yeah i would scratch it off your paper.

and even if you look like the salvation army don't apologize or even acknowledge it, that just comes off as weak confidence. some thing goes for like a dirty room or a ****ty car... just be like "eh.. im good enough" confidence!

 

[Randallpink83]

uhh they edited the most important part.... its "your sh!t"

 

[snowdog]

Haha no offense but that don't sound like a good idea. What would I mean by that "your sh!t" sh!t?

 

[Perfect10]

Sorry dude. You've not got A chance. Just look at how shes acting. If she was intrested she'd most likely WANT you to take her out. Forget her for now.

If you've still got "munchies" for her after that, try to play her again from the beginning. Next time use more C&F or negging (That depends on your style).
But you'll be in damage control, so if it seems hard as hell now. The next time will be like pouring warm porridge with shards of glas, down your pants. Suicide

 

[snowdog]

Sorry dude. You've not got A chance. Just look at how shes acting. If she was intrested she'd most likely WANT you to take her out. Forget her for now.

If you've still got "munchies" for her after that, try to play her again from the beginning. Next time use more C&F or negging (That depends on your style).
But you'll be in damage control, so if it seems hard as hell now. The next time will be like pouring warm porridge with shards of glas, down your pants. Suicide

Fukk that negative sh*t man. There is no such thing as 'not a chance'. I'm working on losing negative thoughts like that, with some succes so far.

I'm just like: "I'll see what I can get out of it, and if nothing, well.., hell". I'm always giving myself a chance, even if it's a little one.

 

[snowdog]

A little update. I posted it in my journal

 

[snowdog]

Yea... I probably ruined this one because I acted too much like a chump... but still, I made an effort for it. I mean she was HOT. What the f*ck do you expect from me? A year ago I could barely talk to even non-hot chicks. On this really arrogant, b7tchy, insanely hot one I even managed to get her number; AND call her a couple of times.

Although I'm probably not going to get this one, I'm not giving up until she really, actually rejected me. Like saying "no, I'm not interested in hanging out with you".

Hard time getting her out of my mind. I think I kinda have a crush on this girl.