literally get rejected 99% of the time, on the verge of quiting

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Just received some motivation. Was reading one of Tucker max's books and he was explaining how everybody rejected his first book, but it became a best seller anyway. I'm gonna keep my head up.
 

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Being a farmer really helped me. I thought if I planted seeds and watered the seeds that they would grow into fruit. The truth is some of the seeds were washed away by rain-some died in a dry spell-some were eaten-by birds. I kept on planting though knowing my actions were the rewards. The rewards the joy is in the actions and growth...then one day one of the seeds I planted became a HB10 and we had sex. -The End
 

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@op

if you approached 100 women and had sex with one, you are still better off, than being a butthurt virgin hiding away in the closet

if you approached 100 women, got only 1 interested and she`s flaking on you, maybe you have different problems not just with women, the best at daygame is Paul Janka, check him out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vaj16G05Jg
 

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Mike32ct said:
1 percent is average/typical. It's actually not bad.

3 percent is decent.

5 percent is very good.

7 percent is excellent.

10+ percent is elite territory.

I don't think most people realize how low game percentages actually are for a typical guy.
this is very very true and exactly why so many men have life so hard and end up paying for sex and attention form women or turning gay etc.. it really sucks that even ugly females can get sex so easily where as the average guy struggles 95% of the time..
 

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Ringleader41 said:
Just received some motivation. Was reading one of Tucker max's books and he was explaining how everybody rejected his first book, but it became a best seller anyway. I'm gonna keep my head up.
okay dude here is whats up... you need a gimmick or two.. study the women you want and figure out what they like what they are attracted to in dudes... figure out how to create an image that attracts them.. go out and observe them how they act and they guys they are into.. if you cannot find any gimmick for that type off women .. switch woman types and try again..

if you are a white guy even a lame ugly white guy you will have an easy pu$$y gold mine with 75% of black females even the very cute ones cause many of them dont like their own black men so they are eager and willing to service any guy who aint black..its sad but you can get layed easy ....
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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HalfPUAHalfAFC said:
Well, clearly you are doing something wrong but you don't give us enough information. Before I continue, read Bradd80's post on Don Juan Tips section about his secret guide to mastering dj life. Good stuff here:http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=197705

Also, read the tread on real versus perceived value: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=202361

Now, maybe you read all that already. If so, I'm going to take some guesses and you have to honestly reflect on if any of this is true.

(1) PERSONAL APPEARANCES AND HYGIENE

Do you work out?
Have you fixed your wardrobe?
Shower, brush your teeth, floss everyday?
Have you worked on body language?

(2) SOCIAL CIRCLE GAME

Have you worked this angle? It will already give you proof, so there's start.
If your circle is too small, expand it.
Also, make a friend or two of women in your circle and get them out with you on a pick-up. Have them critique you. They may not know what you are doing wrong from a DJ perspective, but they can tell you from a woman's.

(3) APPROACHING

My guess is that you are often failing at cold approaching. It is hard and sometimes not worth it if your game ain't tight. This can lead to discouragement for some.

Work on indirect approaches. Situational openers. These come off more naturally.

(4) KINO

She should barely notice it early on. But you got to do it and she should notice it at least and it should seem normal. Light hand on shoulder for 1-2 seconds making a point. Hand on her back going through a doorway or when taking a seat. Don't over do it. Touch thighs underneath the table when it's crowded. If she doesn't move, it's good.

That's just for starters and it doesn't even cover isolation and escalation.

But lets deal with comfort and rapport, because if you are opening up lots of sets, this is probably where you are blowing it. Here's some things to keep in mind:

DO NOT come off as if you want something from a woman. If she feels like you are gaming her, you are doing it wrong, especially early on.

Make sure you are comfortable looking a woman in the eye when talking to her.

Start gaming women who you have no intention of sleeping with. It will give you practice.

Try this: Get a woman out and game her all night long with conversation, eye contact, confidence, body language, bouncing to new venues, getting her to talk about herself and laugh... do all that right and you will not even have to steer her toward thinking sexually. It will happen on its own. That is, she'll want you and will feel like you never even hit on her. She might even propose sex. But if she doesn't and you know she's turned on, kiss her dammit and see if you can escalate from there.

Women sniff out neediness and desperation from a mile away. You got to kill that stuff. Worse, they interpret some things in that light even if it isn't. Aloofness and outcome independence are your friends.

Are you blowing up their phones? Liking their posts on Facebook? Stop that stuff.

Don't build rapport over text. Get them out. Tell, don't ask. "Hitting up the bar for happy hour. Come join!" Simple stuff like that.

Don't get into intellectual conversations with women you are gaming. You must keep it light and fun. Emphasis on fun. Girls just want to have it, you know?

Are you a downer at parties?

Do you walking around with your drink at your chest or hands in your pockets? Stop it.

Stop wearing tennis shoes. Make sure your clothes fit.

There's a ton more, but if you are failing like you said you are, you are probably messing up a lot of fundamentals.
That was good. Exactly what I am looking for from you guys.
 

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The same thing I told the OP in the other thread that wasn't having any success applies here. Take a break and go back to the fundamentals. Make sure youre in a good place financially. Have great style. Work on your social skills. Make sure you're fit. Find a few hobbies that you really enjoy doing.

I wont go into detail about how to do all this because there's a billion resources online for that but I bet that when you get good at all of this your approaches will go alot smoother. You'll also probably already have girls in your social circle who are interested and all you'll have to do is initiate and escalate.
 

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DonGorgon said:
okay dude here is whats up... you need a gimmick or two.. study the women you want and figure out what they like what they are attracted to in dudes... figure out how to create an image that attracts them.. go out and observe them how they act and they guys they are into.. if you cannot find any gimmick for that type off women .. switch woman types and try again..

if you are a white guy even a lame ugly white guy you will have an easy pu$$y gold mine with 75% of black females even the very cute ones cause many of them dont like their own black men so they are eager and willing to service any guy who aint black..its sad but you can get layed easy ....

I'm black lol
 

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1. Don't equate getting women to being happy. You set yourself up for a fall when you do that because

1a. Even if you get a woman, many women, you need to be happy by yourself or they will leave you for a man who is comfortable just being him.

1b. The happier you are without women ie. the more *POSITIVE* things you have distracting you from women (for example skills, career, hobbies) the higher your value is (that's my take on it anyway).

2. So, "giving up" might be exactly what you need. Concentrate hard on other things, and as long as you're socialising often, opportunities to talk to women will naturally present themselves, and you'll actually have cool stuff to talk about because of all the other things you've been concentrating on.
 
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