Listening To Your Gut.. Or Paranoia??

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what do you do in a situation where, you are seeing a girl, but your gut is telling you, something is wrong, you feel you can't trust her.

her behaviour is a little suspicious sometimes, somethings don't make sense!

yet you have no proof, that she is upto something, or you have not caught her out lying? but you feel like she may be lying

could you just be overthinking things & acting paranoid... or should you listen to your gut at all times
 

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Tough line.....

I personally have found that the "gut feeling" is rarely wrong, but that could be how my experience has shaped that feeling. If you are one who hasnt had a lot of experience with women then it could be paranoia.

Without more specifics its impossible for me to say what to do....
 

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What i find amazing about this feeling in the gut is how often it is right. Like the saying goes "You dont know how you know, but you just know". Many times i would have a "gut feeling" that something was wrong or off but i would pass on it only to later be right about that off setting feeling.
 

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Oh.. Trust your gut for sure. If your getting a knot of anxiety in the pit of your gut over a decision... The pitted gut wrench is the correct choice 99% of the time.

My wife told me that every guy we knew that I got a gut feeling about or acted jealous about was my radar going off (at the time when I mention it my wife would shame me for my gut feeling). But later when our marriage was in much MUCH better shape my wife appologized to me and said "remember all those times you were jealous over certain guys? Well your radar was right and I'm sorry for being a total b!tch about it"

So yes... The gut feeling is your radar... That your being invaded or under some sort of an attack. Listen to it and take fricken action.

Epi
 

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here is the thing... me and this girl never talk on the phone.. we only text each other & this is done usualy at night after 8pm when i have finished worked

every so often she will drop off the radar in the middle of a text conversation for a couple of hours... i mean just gone... then she will text back again a few hours later, with no explanantion, like nothing has happended...

by then i have either fallen asleep myself or i cannot be bothered to carry on with the conversation anymore

i mean a 2 or 3 hour delay mid conversation?? why bother, especialy when i am tired & working all day... it just feels like she is busy talking with someone else too

also i don't hear from her some nights (especialy friday night) & she tells me, she fell asleep early, but i have tried to call her with my number witheld & her phone has been engaged

there have been quite a few other quite suspicious circumstance... i still have no real proof that she lies

my gut is defo telling me something is wrong...

she will text me most nights, but when it's friday night, she does not text much & the text she does send me, are very short & the sort of text that don't really require a response, or lead into a full on coversation

again it feels like, on a friday night she is busy with something

i'm begining to question myself, wether i am acting paranoid or something is not right

i have not called her on it, as i don't want to come across as a beta insecure phaggot lol

but my gut is telling me, something is wrong!!
 

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soulforge said:
what do you do in a situation where, you are seeing a girl, but your gut is telling you, something is wrong, you feel you can't trust her.

her behaviour is a little suspicious sometimes, somethings don't make sense!

yet you have no proof, that she is upto something, or you have not caught her out lying? but you feel like she may be lying

could you just be overthinking things & acting paranoid... or should you listen to your gut at all times
Happend to me once. Me this girl on myspace, within ten mins of chatting she says "do you like sex?" of course I do.

This girl was driving 45 mins daily or every other day, and then another 25 mins to a city near me. I spent no money on her, made her pay for herself. Used to take her car back in this one cornfield and **** her. She also used to bring me sandwiches.

Well the the biggest dilema was if i leave the windows down in her car, i will be eaten alive by mosquitoes, but i close the windows, it gets so hot, and the windows litterally would drip with condensation.

Sounds good right? well one night driving home I had the "talk" with her. I said "I'm not looking to have a relationship right now" or somthing.

You know why? When I was driving her car to where ever I wanted to go, she would always get phone calls and texts, and not answer them. She would slience them right away.

Now I didn't know what I know now. It was probably just passed orbiters, or fwbs hitting her up.

She cried. I felt zero guilt becuase if she had respect for me, she would tell them other dudes to fvck off.

After her I had an actual ltr, who I think cheated, but I was 19 idc now.

Once That ltr ended I called up girl 1 and said "hey me and my gf split up, come out here" She left right away.

if you break it off with a girl while having good frame, you can usually go back.

Make her an alpha widow.

It works. So work it.
 

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noobolgy said:
Happend to me once. Me this girl on myspace, within ten mins of chatting she says "do you like sex?" of course I do.

This girl was driving 45 mins daily or every other day, and then another 25 mins to a city near me. I spent no money on her, made her pay for herself. Used to take her car back in this one cornfield and **** her. She also used to bring me sandwiches.

Well the the biggest dilema was if i leave the windows down in her car, i will be eaten alive by mosquitoes, but i close the windows, it gets so hot, and the windows litterally would drip with condensation.

Sounds good right? well one night driving home I had the "talk" with her. I said "I'm not looking to have a relationship right now" or somthing.

You know why? When I was driving her car to where ever I wanted to go, she would always get phone calls and texts, and not answer them. She would slience them right away.

Now I didn't know what I know now. It was probably just passed orbiters, or fwbs hitting her up.

She cried. I felt zero guilt becuase if she had respect for me, she would tell them other dudes to fvck off.

After her I had an actual ltr, who I think cheated, but I was 19 idc now.

Once That ltr ended I called up girl 1 and said "hey me and my gf split up, come out here" She left right away.

if you break it off with a girl while having good frame, you can usually go back.

Make her an alpha widow.

It works. So work it.

Holy **** dude... same thing with this girl.... when she is at my house, her phone is always on silence....

i even asked her one time, how come you keep your phone on silent... she made some crappy excuse up, that she knocked it by mistake, and it went onto silent... bullsh@t

also she has had calls a couple of times & she has ignored the calls & told me it was her phones alarm!

defo something dodgy about this girl.. i know she has quite a few man friends & possible orbiters
 

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soulforge said:
Holy **** dude... same thing with this girl.... when she is at my house, her phone is always on silence....

i even asked her one time, how come you keep your phone on silent... she made some crappy excuse up, that she knocked it by mistake, and it went onto silent... bullsh@t

also she has had calls a couple of times & she has ignored the calls & told me it was her phones alarm!

defo something dodgy about this girl.. i know she has quite a few man friends & possible orbiters
Yup. I would just tell her "hey you know, its ok if you answer your cellphone when we are just in the car silently, I won't be offended."

Now it would have been different if after I made this very fair comment, if she explained herself to me.

She told me once, oh he's just a friend and hes going through a rough time.

After that, I fvked her once more, and then gave her the "talk".

She cried, but I felt it was just for show, or a fake thing.

I dumped her. I bet she pinned for months, the one night i pumped her and never spoke to her again. :up:

Now all women are going to have orbiters. My ex did. She would tell me about it to because maybe she felt guilty? She would tell me about everything during her day. I never really cared though. She told me once how she would get coffee at this little place at her uni and how this guy asked for her number twice, she said "I'm not going to go there again." I told her, hey what ever I trust you.

My ex called me once when she was at this bar (not a drinker) she went there for salsa dancing or somthing. This was early in the relationship. She called me because a guy offered to by her a beer, and she felt guilty like she was cheating because a man offered her a beer.

She had two beers, that night paid for it herself. She was drunk, off of two beers. She drove home. I got mad because if you get drunk off of two beers you shouldnt drive. No drunk driving experiance.

Not an American girl btw. Chinese one.
 

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Your gut is trying to tell you something, listen to it. Something is not cool.
 

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I've had this a lot especially with my ex who would walk all over me.

And now this girl I'm dating I've had it a few weeks ago. And lets just say we haven't seen each other since because we've been fighting. I think its paranoia but when you feel something bad or negative energy.

There were times when I had a bad gut thinking something was going bad when it didn't. I dunno its a tough call.
 

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Guys, you can't make a call just on the gut.(I had before, and I was right) Lay low and let her chase you, her IL is dropping. Don't force it, just be less available and do to her exactly what she is doing with you! THAT'S how you deal with it in the beginning, till you get more facts.
 

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If you walk away now, and go find a different one, if the new one fails you could probably rebound on the old one.

It's kinda like planting a seed.

As long as you dump her with strong frame, you can usually go back for a bang or a few
 

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noobolgy said:
Yup. I would just tell her "hey you know, its ok if you answer your cellphone when we are just in the car silently, I won't be offended."

Now it would have been different if after I made this very fair comment, if she explained herself to me.

She told me once, oh he's just a friend and hes going through a rough time.

After that, I fvked her once more, and then gave her the "talk".

She cried, but I felt it was just for show, or a fake thing.

I dumped her. I bet she pinned for months, the one night i pumped her and never spoke to her again. :up:

Now all women are going to have orbiters. My ex did. She would tell me about it to because maybe she felt guilty? She would tell me about everything during her day. I never really cared though. She told me once how she would get coffee at this little place at her uni and how this guy asked for her number twice, she said "I'm not going to go there again." I told her, hey what ever I trust you.

My ex called me once when she was at this bar (not a drinker) she went there for salsa dancing or somthing. This was early in the relationship. She called me because a guy offered to by her a beer, and she felt guilty like she was cheating because a man offered her a beer.

She had two beers, that night paid for it herself. She was drunk, off of two beers. She drove home. I got mad because if you get drunk off of two beers you shouldnt drive. No drunk driving experiance.

Not an American girl btw. Chinese one.

HOLY F@CKING **** DUDE... am i banging your ex chick?? lol

guess what happen with this girl only last week... she was in my kitchen, i pulled out my ****k... told her to get down on her knees & start sucking (i like my bj's on demand)

so mid way of giving me a blow job she stops... tells me that she needs to talk to me... we need to sit down and talk...

i'm like damn it must be serious... why want to have a chat in the middle of making out...

so i ask her what is up??

she proceeds to tell me, earlier that morning she had got a text from this dude, whom she had a date with (before she met me) she met him on pof.. she told me, he asked her if she was still single & that she told him, she was not interested & was seeing someone now

my reaction to that? hey you stopped suckking my c@ck just to tell me about some dude whom sent you a text...

did i even need to know this crap? and why in the middle of us making out?

mind you, she had a couple of vodkas... so i acted like i did not give a ****k... she killed my mood tho, so i didn't bother fukin her that night... TOTAL BUZZ KILL


so it got me wondering, why even tell me this bull crap... anyhow she apologized 3 times that night for behaving like a f@;cking idiot

i guess she wanted to get me jealous or get some reaction out of me

now i wonder how many other guys are texting her
 

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okay so lets look at the checklist here.

1. Phone constantly being ignored while she is around you...check
2. Gaps in txt convo hours on end, especially at peak party hours...check
3. A sh!t-test that interrupted your bj...check

I don't know man im all about following my gut. Something is going on here and she is probably talking with another guy. Old plate of mine would txt me and respong immediately and just stop at random and wouldn't get another txt for a couple of days. Typical low interest behavior. Anyways I just told her one day I'm done with her. Boom she stringing along another guy.

My point is its the same behavior. Proving wether or not you are right or wrong is gonna be the real challenge. How serious are you with this chick/what are your intentions?
 

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Always, always go with your gut. In this case, your gut is telling you that this chick's shady, because she is.

Your best course of action would be to keep yourself emotionally detached at all times (however compliant and submissive she acts - some sluts put on this act flawlessly at the beggining of an affair so as to lure a guy in), use her for the sex and fun times and stay detached, meaning that if you catch yourself developing feelings, abort immediately.
 

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Thundernuts said:
okay so lets look at the checklist here.

1. Phone constantly being ignored while she is around you...check
2. Gaps in txt convo hours on end, especially at peak party hours...check
3. A sh!t-test that interrupted your bj...check

I don't know man im all about following my gut. Something is going on here and she is probably talking with another guy. Old plate of mine would txt me and respong immediately and just stop at random and wouldn't get another txt for a couple of days. Typical low interest behavior. Anyways I just told her one day I'm done with her. Boom she stringing along another guy.

My point is its the same behavior. Proving wether or not you are right or wrong is gonna be the real challenge. How serious are you with this chick/what are your intentions?
the gaps in the text convo's is defo making me feel like something is up

the dropping off the radar especialy on friday nights, peak party time, is defo making me feel like something is up

her phone bieng on silent & ignoring some calls defo makes me feel like she is hiding something


okay this is how i feel... i like this girl, as far as the sex is good... and she can be fun company to be around

as for a relationship... i don't feel comfortable with her & do not feel i could trust her long term, so i wouldn't allow my feelings to develop for her... also i can't really imagine spenmding my life with her (i am 37 years old)

i need to rule her our for LTR... so i guess i need detatch from her, watch her closely, untill i have some clear cut evidence
 

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ludis said:
Always, always go with your gut. In this case, your gut is telling you that this chick's shady, because she is.

Your best course of action would be to keep yourself emotionally detached at all times (however compliant and submissive she acts - some sluts put on this act flawlessly at the beggining of an affair so as to lure a guy in), use her for the sex and fun times and stay detached, meaning that if you catch yourself developing feelings, abort immediately.

AND YES SHE DOES ACT COMPLIANT & SUBMISSIVE!! but my gut tells me, that is not her true nature
 

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In any situation you must always listen to your gut. Doesn't necessarily mean you must dump the girl but proceed dating her with caution, figure her out before you become attached to her.
 
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