Hello men. As an old timer and constant lurker of the forum, I'd like to share with you guys something which hit me pretty recently, plus would like to hear your opinions.
My introduction to the game was Doc Love and his ideas on Challenge. Pretty good concepts for a total newbie to grasp. Then I started reading the Bible, C&F, etc etc. And it went... well, *decent*. I noticed that I had no trouble approaching or opening a group, or even getting numbers. My problem was that once with the girl in isolation, there was "something" which I was missing to a large extent in order to get her feeling aroused. (It's not that it never happened, only that I couldn't do it consistently, because I didn't know how to trigger the things that make a woman become physically and mentally aroused).
I knew, however, that one can suscribe to the whole Alpha BS that is spread everywhere, and just "go" in for the kiss, as if rolling a dice... "did I come across alpha enough... or will she turn her head and leave me kissing her cheek...?". So it wasn't a thing of "going for it" that held me back... but rather "how do I make her WANT IT SO BAD, that she will be expecting me to go for it until her mouth is watering?".
Then I came across (hold your flame-guns) Ross Jeffries' SS. For those of you who haven't tried it, or who thing that reciting the freebie patterns you can find in asf will get you laid like a magic bullet... it's not like that at ALL! Anyways, he has enough marketing plug at his own site, so I just want to pose one of his ideas for discussion here:
He says, among other things, that women do things because they enter an emotional state, an altered state of consciousness if you will (analogous to the altered state an AFC enters when he comes acorss an HB). So now my question to you people who don't suscribe to SS is, how do you think "being a challenge" or C&F, etc, contribute to taking a woman out of the mind frame of "this guy wants to get into my pants... should I let him or not?", to some state where her emotions take care of her.
I'm not saying this altered state can only be achieved with X method. But I would like to know if this is something people think about, or if you are only worried about following a laundry list of steps which are supposedly to somehow magically make her appear naked next to you in the morning....
Discuss.
G
My introduction to the game was Doc Love and his ideas on Challenge. Pretty good concepts for a total newbie to grasp. Then I started reading the Bible, C&F, etc etc. And it went... well, *decent*. I noticed that I had no trouble approaching or opening a group, or even getting numbers. My problem was that once with the girl in isolation, there was "something" which I was missing to a large extent in order to get her feeling aroused. (It's not that it never happened, only that I couldn't do it consistently, because I didn't know how to trigger the things that make a woman become physically and mentally aroused).
I knew, however, that one can suscribe to the whole Alpha BS that is spread everywhere, and just "go" in for the kiss, as if rolling a dice... "did I come across alpha enough... or will she turn her head and leave me kissing her cheek...?". So it wasn't a thing of "going for it" that held me back... but rather "how do I make her WANT IT SO BAD, that she will be expecting me to go for it until her mouth is watering?".
Then I came across (hold your flame-guns) Ross Jeffries' SS. For those of you who haven't tried it, or who thing that reciting the freebie patterns you can find in asf will get you laid like a magic bullet... it's not like that at ALL! Anyways, he has enough marketing plug at his own site, so I just want to pose one of his ideas for discussion here:
He says, among other things, that women do things because they enter an emotional state, an altered state of consciousness if you will (analogous to the altered state an AFC enters when he comes acorss an HB). So now my question to you people who don't suscribe to SS is, how do you think "being a challenge" or C&F, etc, contribute to taking a woman out of the mind frame of "this guy wants to get into my pants... should I let him or not?", to some state where her emotions take care of her.
I'm not saying this altered state can only be achieved with X method. But I would like to know if this is something people think about, or if you are only worried about following a laundry list of steps which are supposedly to somehow magically make her appear naked next to you in the morning....
Discuss.
G