Letterman vs Palin

[Alle_Gory]

What are you talking about? Go tell any parent a joke about their 14 year old daughter getting knocked up by A-Rod and watch what happens...how are any of you gonna defend that sh1t? It's acceptable to make fun of a politician who has made a conscious decision to become a public figure, but it is down right crass to make fun of their teenage children.

He did say "knocked up" so he must have meant the older, of age, adult daughter. Unless both daughters are complete slvts and have kids??

 

[Alle_Gory]

Letterman is attacking palin because he hates republicans. Like someone said, switch around the people involved with limbaugh and any prominent liberal woman and you would have a firestorm. Liberals cannot see anything from an objective view because they are so full of hate and have a serious superiority complex which is built on some sort of shame they have about their racial identity.

Oh gee, look at these jokes:
"Former Vice President Al Gore has purchased his own cable television channel. It's going to be the Al Gore TV network. He said it's going to be a lot like C-SPAN, but less exciting." --David Letterman


"Remember Al Gore? He was Vice President for a little while. Now, he is teaching school at Columbia, teaching a journalism class. Since the election the guy has put on 40 pounds. It's gotten so bad that every time he turns around, his ass erases the blackboard. ... He got on the scales today and demanded a recount." --David Letterman

Do my eyes decieve me?

 

[piranha45]

Gore's a good target for anyone and everyone. Find something meaty on Obama.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/al_gore_places_infant_son_in

 

[ketostix]

Letterman is attacking palin because he hates republicans. Like someone said, switch around the people involved with limbaugh and any prominent liberal woman and you would have a firestorm. Liberals cannot see anything from an objective view because they are so full of hate and have a serious superiority complex which is built on some sort of shame they have about their racial identity.

I totally agree, liberals are hateful and the most intolerant. First they try to paint the conservative as an idiot and if that doesn't work they try to paint the conservative as "evil" a "nazi" etc.

Just imagine the mainstream media saying something offensive about Michelle Obama, or the Obama daughters, or even Obama himself. That one news anchor that said something not nearly as offensive about Chelsea Clinton (an adult) and something that could be taken another way as almost a compliment was fired and he wasn't even a conservative. The media wouldn't do it anyway, but the main point is they wouldn't dare. It's BS.

Although I have to say I don't think a big deal should be made about the fact that the daughter was 14, as much that it was just the derogatory content itself and about a politician daughter with a clear implication, ie, Palin's a conservative yet her daughter is a hor. This implication is where the so-called humor lies. when in reality liberal women tend to be more hors. You could really tell that Letterman was hating it that he was taking pressure because he was caught on saying something sexual about a 14 year-old. Any liberal would hate to be reigned in on their one-way street of smearing and defaming conservatives.

 

[Captain Harlock]

I don't care about politics (especially American because they're even more ridiculous than ours), but I think Palin is pretty hot.

 

[Alle_Gory]

I totally agree, liberals are hateful and the most intolerant. First they try to paint the conservative as an idiot and if that doesn't work they try to paint the conservative as "evil" a "nazi" etc.

So you deny Palin is an idiot.

Look at what the liberal media has done to Palin:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg

Those aren't her words, those are just clever editings to paint her an idiot.

Riiight??

Although I have to say I don't think a big deal should be made about the fact that the daughter was 14, as much that it was just the derogatory content itself and about a politician daughter with a clear implication, ie, Palin's a conservative yet her daughter is a hor. This implication is where the so-called humor lies.

OK. You're well on your way to understanding humor.

when in reality liberal women tend to be more hors.

Way to fail at understanding the joke.

 

[user43770]

He did say "knocked up" so he must have meant the older, of age, adult daughter. Unless both daughters are complete slvts and have kids??

One would assume that he was talking about the daughter that went to the Yankees game; the 14 year old daughter.

 

[ketostix]

So you deny Palin is an idiot.

Look at what the liberal media has done to Palin:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg

Those aren't her words, those are just clever editings to paint her an idiot.

Riiight??

She's an idiot? You can make anyone look bad and you can make anyone look good. That doesn't prove the person is an "idiot" or not. What it proves is the media will stoop to anything to get their agenda across. Some people are just better than others at dealing with the media and have more experience. Reagan is an example of someone that try as hard as they might the media couldn't paint him as an idiot. Bush is probably a bigger idiot, but he's not really a true conservative so the media let him be. A conservative woman is a bigger threat.

OK. You're well on your way to understanding humor.
Way to fail at understanding the joke.

I think you are the one misunderstanding the joke.

 

[Alle_Gory]

She's an idiot? You can make anyone look bad and you can make anyone look good. That doesn't prove the person is an "idiot" or not.

Good point. Well she appears to be an idiot and that's what she's infamous for. Perception counts, and if she can't deal with the media then she can get another job that doesn't involve being a public figure. Maybe like an accountant or something where smartness counts and presentation skills don't.

And btw, nobody, not even the media can make Palin look like a bigger idiot than she is. Example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV2_bHTP_gU

Worst, possible location for an interview ever. Notice whats happening in the background. She's completely oblivious.

What it proves is the media will stoop to anything to get their agenda across.

As does everyone else.

I think you are the one misunderstanding the joke.

See, its funny cause the daughter's a wh*re.

 

[Luthor Rex]

Oh gee, look at these jokes:
"Former Vice President Al Gore has purchased his own cable television channel. It's going to be the Al Gore TV network. He said it's going to be a lot like C-SPAN, but less exciting." --David Letterman


"Remember Al Gore? He was Vice President for a little while. Now, he is teaching school at Columbia, teaching a journalism class. Since the election the guy has put on 40 pounds. It's gotten so bad that every time he turns around, his ass erases the blackboard. ... He got on the scales today and demanded a recount." --David Letterman

Do my eyes decieve me?

It's your ego that's deceiving you. Those jokes are not nearly on the level of offensive as the one he directed at Palin's daughter. I didn't vote for her the last time around, but to pretend that these Al Gore jokes are even close to being as offensive to what was said about her daughter getting knocked up by A-rod is simply delusional.

When it comes to some social issues, I agree with how liberals would do things, but any objective observer can easily see that a good number of "liberals" are very intolerant when someone disagrees with them, then they vomit up their hate and pretend they are being objective.

John Stossel made some very good comments about this phenomenon:

Interviewer: If you look at the positions you've taken over the years, there's a lot for conservatives to dislike about you and a lot for liberals to love. You've spoken out against corporate welfare, against greedy peddlers of junk science and medicine ripping people off, in favor of legalizing drugs, gay rights, and free speech. Yet it seems almost always that you're widely adored by conservatives and widely scorned by liberals. Why is that?

Stossel: I'm not sure, but you're absolutely right. Somebody came up to me in New York and said, "Are you John Stossel?...I hope you die soon." He was a legal aid lawyer. There is this real hatred on the left because I'm a consumer reporter defending business, and they just so hate business.

I don't know. I mean, I'm pro-choice. I was against the war in Iraq. I think homosexuality is just fine. I want drugs legal and prostitution legal. Yet conservatives invite me to their conferences and give me standing ovations. Sometimes. Not always, but they generally like what I have to say. I even mention some of that, and it shows how pathetic it is for conservatives in the mainstream media that I, a libertarian, am the closest thing that they have to invite to a conference.

This hatred of business-I'm not sure what that's about. I used to think it was envy, that the college professor is angry that his slightly stupider roommate is making more money than he is because he's in business. Then you think about the kings and queens of Europe. People didn't hate them for all their wealth, and their wealth proportionately was vastly greater than now, but they hated the bourgeoisie. They gave them that nasty name. They hated the very people who sold them the things that they needed to make their lives better. What's that about?

My best guess is that it's the intuitive reaction that the world is a zero-sum game, that if he makes profit off you, you must have lost something. If you don't study economics, that is how people think. I see why politicians think that way, because that's how their world works. One wins. Somebody else has to lose. We have a lot of work to do to explain that free commerce doesn't work that way, that everybody gains.

As does everyone else.

This is why liberals think it's ok to vomit up their hate, they think "everyone else is doing it". Not everyone else is "doing it" and even if they were it doesn't justify such behavior.

 

[piranha45]

conspiracy time: the jokes were a cleverly-devised attempt by the letterman staff do distract viewers and media from conan obrien. and they're working perfectly.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Haha...the jokes he made were as funny as this thread.

 

[Alle_Gory]

It's your ego that's deceiving you. Those jokes are not nearly on the level of offensive as the one he directed at Palin's daughter. I didn't vote for her the last time around, but to pretend that these Al Gore jokes are even close to being as offensive to what was said about her daughter getting knocked up by A-rod is simply delusional.

Gore's too boring for interesting jokes.

a good number of "liberals" are very intolerant when someone disagrees with them, then they vomit up their hate and pretend they are being objective.

You just described a good portion of human behavior.

 

[Poonani Maker]

When people tell me, "Did you hear about...?" "What do you think about...?" some crap they heard on TV or read in the paper, I go, "Well..." I don't watch TV and haven't for 4 straight years. I don't allow myself to get upset over stuff other people get upset over because I have already reckoned this world is already lost, and I only live locally, in my own world/circle of friends.

I'm not going out right now because it's supposedly going to rain, thunder, and lightening.

I can't be bothered by the news, a synonym for JUNK for the brain. I can't allow my peace to be disrupted. If they want to harp on a 14 year old having sex, then I'll say, didn't Jerry Lee Lewis have sex with his 14 year old cousin? Didn't Elvis have sex with 14 year olds? Doesn't Mississippi and other states allow sex with 14 year olds as long as it's consensual? or the dude is 16?

We already KNOW that women teachers are not prosecuted with the same Hammer as a male teacher in a student-teacher case.

TV just riles up the masses. It's a BIG distraction. The media is a HUGE distraction, to what's, really important. I find only local matters important, short of a world war.

The internet is a different story all-together. I can search and dig, search and dig, buy and purchase, download and converse. I found 3 things today that would normally cost $300 for $.99

The internet gives me Ideas. The TV shatters all my ideals, leading head-long into a coffin.

 

[penkitten]

What are you talking about? Go tell any parent a joke about their 14 year old daughter getting knocked up by A-Rod and watch what happens...how are any of you gonna defend that sh1t? It's acceptable to make fun of a politician who has made a conscious decision to become a public figure, but it is down right crass to make fun of their teenage children.

his writers thought the information on palin's teenage daughter was about her older teenage daughter that actually gave birth this year. the 18 yr old one. he had no idea that they were misinformed about which teenage daughter of hers that it was. neither he or his writers had any idea that it was her 14 yr old daughter or that she made her daughter have an abortion.
funny how republicans are against abortion unless they need their kid to have one. that is what i was talking about. the joke would have only been offensive to the parents of a 14 yr old that was having sex and got knocked up and had to have a secret abortion. secret not because of her age or religion, but secret because of what her mother's political stance was.
so, that is why it was soooo offensive.

other people's teenagers get knocked up all the time and no one writes to the newspapers and late night tv shows in outrages.
the only reason that anyone wrote about an outrage this time is because it upset a political figure.

however, if he or his staff realized that the information was about the 14 yr old and not the 18 yr old, he wouldn't have done the joke at all. why? because he wouldn't have crossed that line knowingly.

 

[Alle_Gory]

his writers thought the information on palin's teenage daughter was about her older teenage daughter that actually gave birth this year. the 18 yr old one. he had no idea that they were misinformed about which teenage daughter of hers that it was. neither he or his writers had any idea that it was her 14 yr old daughter or that she made her daughter have an abortion.
funny how republicans are against abortion unless they need their kid to have one. that is what i was talking about. the joke would have only been offensive to the parents of a 14 yr old that was having sex and got knocked up and had to have a secret abortion. secret not because of her age or religion, but secret because of what her mother's political stance was.
so, that is why it was soooo offensive.

other people's teenagers get knocked up all the time and no one writes to the newspapers and late night tv shows in outrages.
the only reason that anyone wrote about an outrage this time is because it upset a political figure.

however, if he or his staff realized that the information was about the 14 yr old and not the 18 yr old, he wouldn't have done the joke at all. why? because he wouldn't have crossed that line knowingly.

You're talking to a wall my dear. Everyone here has their mind made up. Right guys?

Liberals bad, republicans good. Conspiracy theories. That sums up this thread.

 

[user43770]

his writers thought the information on palin's teenage daughter was about her older teenage daughter that actually gave birth this year. the 18 yr old one. he had no idea that they were misinformed about which teenage daughter of hers that it was. neither he or his writers had any idea that it was her 14 yr old daughter or that she made her daughter have an abortion.
I don't know why you keep bringing up abortion, but I do understand that is OK to ridicule and slander women on national television...as long as they're Republican.

funny how republicans are against abortion unless they need their kid to have one. that is what i was talking about. the joke would have only been offensive to the parents of a 14 yr old that was having sex and got knocked up and had to have a secret abortion. secret not because of her age or religion, but secret because of what her mother's political stance was.
so, that is why it was soooo offensive.
Again, I don't understand why you keep bringing up abortion. Are you telling me that Palin's daughter has had an abortion?

other people's teenagers get knocked up all the time and no one writes to the newspapers and late night tv shows in outrages.
the only reason that anyone wrote about an outrage this time is because it upset a political figure.
Other people's daughters aren't smeared on national television for no reason other than their mother's political views.

however, if he or his staff realized that the information was about the 14 yr old and not the 18 yr old, he wouldn't have done the joke at all. why? because he wouldn't have crossed that line knowingly.
If he had accidentally made a joke about a prominent liberal's underage daughter he would be getting his ass sued off by the ACLU and NOW.

In bold.

 

[edger]

haha he called her a slut

LOL. "Slutty flight attendant". I see plenty of hot "slutty" flight attendants where I am. By the way, for those who don't know me, I don't mean "slut" in a demeaning, negative way.

 

[edger]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20090611/en_ynews/ynews_en386


Do you think the jokes were ok or did he cross the line?

It was defintely funny, but yeah, he did cross the line....lol. By the way, how did Friday go? I'll give you a call during the week.

 

[Deep Dish]

He made the joke about the 18 year old. Not the 14 year old. So no the joke doesn't cross the line. But the old geezers getting his panties in a bunch and assuming its the 14 year old.

Actually, the latest news reports indicate it really was the 14 old daughter. Letterman had it wrong. However, news reports also report Palin may be to Letterman as Hugh Grant was to Leno (Grant boosted Leno's career by asking "What were you thinking?" when Grant was arrested for soliciting a hooker.)