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Let's talk about women in their prime: 18-23

DeCarlo

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Even in the manosphere I see a lot of guys talk about how many women they bag. How they get play, how much game they have etc etc.
I've recently started finding out most these guys are mostly getting women 27+
In all fairness, women at this age range hardly count imo. Why? Because when she was in her prime (18-23) she was at her peak. Which means:

A) She looked way better, so had access to a whole 'nother caliber of men. Meaning she may not have even chosen to **** with you when Chad, Brad and Hiroshi were checking. Basically you don't know if you wouldve been her first choice. Or a choice at all when she had max value.

B) Her ego, confidence, requirements, whatever, were at a all time high. Would you still qualify then? Not saying men should care or base their value on what women want. But im saying you cant brag about how you bag 10 30 somethings and 5 28 year olds a week when her options are way less.

With that out the way. What do you guys think about women in their prime?
They are by far the most tedious to deal with IMO. Ive heard guys say here that if they dont close the night/day they meet them they dont even bother anymore even.

But I think this age range is a mans true testament and measure of his game/value.
Also I dont even consider advice from women that arent this age range because 8/10 they talk about things from the perspective of a woman in her epiphany/security phase. Not when they were prime. Notice all the women even on tiktok that give out "advice" or are "pro men" are all mid 20s at best. Mostly late 20s to 30s. Tsk tsk. I wonder why. *wink*
 

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I find girls 25-35 to be hotter and more desirable than 18-23. Also there’s a lot of liars in the manosphere too.
30 year old women more attrractive than early 20s? Cmon man...
Not judging but I just dont believe you.

But Im sure they are more desirable to most men simply because they are easier to deal with. Because they have less options. Id agree they are surely easier to deal with. Because they have to be.
 

RBK

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Slept with a couple 21-23 over the last couple years... they are a lot of work. They are super flighty and horrific at planning. In my experience it's purely right place right time with them. They are also super spoiled and think they can do no wrong.

I honestly prefer 25-29 range.
 
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30 year old women more attrractive than early 20s? Cmon man...
Not judging but I just dont believe you.

But Im sure they are more desirable to most men simply because they are easier to deal with. Because they have less options. Id agree they are surely easier to deal with. Because they have to be.
Most women aren't even fully developed til 23. Most of these girls I see entering college look like Middle School/Adult hybrids. The best example I have is that I never thought my friend was attractive freshman year of college. By Senior year, she grows into her body and starts learning how to satisfy her looks. By 25, she's model tier gorgeous and still is at 29. The biggest wall a woman can hit is weight gain, the age thing doesn't start to hit til after 35.
 

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It depends what it is for.
18-22 - better for just having fun.
22-26- wifey material.
26+ potentially a few different things.

Of course there are exceptions but either way, a girl that hasnt been ran through and can be mature and follows your lead are good traits for being a good girlfriend
 

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I’ll extend a woman’s prime out to 25.

I’m 39. Since turning 35, my number 1 preference has been to have sex with women 25 and younger. That’s been my preference since I was 25.

At 27-28, it was easier for me to have sex with a 25 & under than it has been at 35+.

I’m not exceptional enough to have sex with women 10+ years younger as a 35+ guy. I do have standards though if I am going to bang & get into relationships with women 26+. They must be childless & not overweight.
 

EyeBRollin

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I’ll extend a woman’s prime out to 25.

I’m 39. Since turning 35, my number 1 preference has been to have sex with women 25 and younger. That’s been my preference since I was 25.

At 27-28, it was easier for me to have sex with a 25 & under than it has been at 35+.

I’m not exceptional enough to have sex with women 10+ years younger as a 35+ guy. I do have standards though if I am going to bang & get into relationships with women 26+. They must be childless & not overweight.
39 trying to bag under 25? Your time is up, my friend. Only Brad Pitt and Michael B Jordan tier can consistently pull younger like that.
 

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39 trying to bag under 25? Your time is up, my friend. Only Brad Pitt and Michael B Jordan tier can consistently pull younger like that.
I realize that. Throughout my 30s, I’ve been having sex with women closer to my own age but still younger. Getting someone even 5 years younger is impressive. I like 5-7 years younger if possible. A guy has to be impressive even to do that at 35+.

Even though 18-25 is my #1 preference, I’ve had to settle.
 

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Last time I was single, I was only able to pull one girl under 23 years old

That being said, if I could consistently pull 23 or younger, I would prefer a 30 year old woman only in the following scenarios:


-30 year old is childless and the younger girl isnt
-The 30 year old girl has a much lower notch count than the younger girl.
- The 30 year old passes the boner test and the younger girl doesnt

Thats it.
 

manfrombelow

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Last time I was single, I was only able to pull one girl under 23 years old

That being said, if I could consistently pull 23 or younger, I would prefer a 30 year old woman only in the following scenarios:


-30 year old is childless and the younger girl isnt
-The 30 year old girl has a much lower notch count than the younger girl.
- The 30 year old passes the boner test and the younger girl doesnt

Thats it.
Truth has been spoken.
 

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What if the younger girl has a kid, but the older has WAYYY higher notch count, and they both pass the boner test?
I have a “no single moms, no exception” policy so the older one would be the choice for me if those are my only 2 choices. I prefer abundance & better options than those 2.
 

2Rocky

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What you are talking about is "Trophy Hunting". Most hunters will tell you that their "trophies" were the result of timing and luck.

I've found that a 7 with an enjoyable attitude who you truly enjoy spending time with is better than a 9 you get a quick ONS from.
 

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Even in the manosphere I see a lot of guys talk about how many women they bag. How they get play, how much game they have etc etc.
I've recently started finding out most these guys are mostly getting women 27+
In all fairness, women at this age range hardly count imo. Why? Because when she was in her prime (18-23) she was at her peak. Which means:

A) She looked way better, so had access to a whole 'nother caliber of men. Meaning she may not have even chosen to **** with you when Chad, Brad and Hiroshi were checking. Basically you don't know if you wouldve been her first choice. Or a choice at all when she had max value.

B) Her ego, confidence, requirements, whatever, were at a all time high. Would you still qualify then? Not saying men should care or base their value on what women want. But im saying you cant brag about how you bag 10 30 somethings and 5 28 year olds a week when her options are way less.

With that out the way. What do you guys think about women in their prime?
They are by far the most tedious to deal with IMO. Ive heard guys say here that if they dont close the night/day they meet them they dont even bother anymore even.

But I think this age range is a mans true testament and measure of his game/value.
Also I dont even consider advice from women that arent this age range because 8/10 they talk about things from the perspective of a woman in her epiphany/security phase. Not when they were prime. Notice all the women even on tiktok that give out "advice" or are "pro men" are all mid 20s at best. Mostly late 20s to 30s. Tsk tsk. I wonder why. *wink*
I hear you buddy. I like smart, young, pretty, energetic, less experienced, etc. and would only date older than 28 if it were not serous. Women just don't have the same energy after 23.
 

Epicwinguy

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30 year old women more attrractive than early 20s? Cmon man...
Not judging but I just dont believe you.

But Im sure they are more desirable to most men simply because they are easier to deal with. Because they have less options. Id agree they are surely easier to deal with. Because they have to be.
Women in their 30s have bigger tits and curvier hips
 

Steno

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I am in my 30's and generally prefer women who are at least 27. The sad thing is that a lot of women nowadays are well into their 30s and live the lifestyle of girls in their early 20's. Women are maturing a lot slower these days, I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years it becomes normal to see 40 + year old women that are still regularly going to girls night out and doing ratchet stuff.
 
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