Lets see if I can recover from this mistake...

[Qualtran]

So its about ten days after my last post and all I can say is WOW.

I definitely did recover from my earlier mistakes, as the last two weeks even got better. We just spent our last weekend together before summer at her home and I met her parents, etc. She is totally initiating things and making the effort and showing lots of affection even in front of her parents. Basically I get the sense that we are at the same interest level right now.

We are planning on meeting up to go camping in 2 weeks, and may get one more chance over the summer to see eachother, but I'll be out of the country soon so next fall is basically the time with her.

I'm not entirely sure how things changed... but on her side I think she realized that I just wanted to have a good time with her. I think she let her guard down once she realized that I wasn't going to try to rope her down or control her. I think the lesson here is that you have to be confident in yourself and make moves on girls, but at the same time sit back and remember that a girl will come to you if she likes you and you let her.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Originally posted by Qualtran
... She said she wants to be exclusive with me when it comes to sex, but not be in an actual relationship. She basically said that she wants to continue hooking up, but that I've really overwhelmed her and she feels like I'm trying to force her into being my girlfriend.

Hahaha, this is a classic example of respecting and treating a Lioness as if it is a kitten – you are respecting this Hor like a woman that she is not!!!!

This is where you young bastards are erring today – you are falling in love with hors who don’t want your love – they want your penis!!!!

But no, you must be unnatural in your thinking and desires and love that which is by it’s corrupted nature not loveable!!!

For you to love a hor tells me that your nature is corrupted as well - corrupted thinking leads to corrupted acts – a corrupt man is blind and always in error!!!

Ironically enough it took a corrupt hor to tell you that your thinking and desire for her in a LTR is not natural nor wanted!!! She says, “Qualtran, why do you desire me for that which I am not? Do you not see that I am a hor and should only be desired for my flesh and not for my self?” I just want to be your hor and you my pimp.” I want to have sex with other guys but have you when I don’t have them.”

What the hell is heck is wrong with you dudes???

The women are talking and doing as men talk and do and you young bastards are talking and doing as women talk and do!!!

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are just the next pimp in line!!!!!!!!! PIMP THE HOR!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Qualtran]

PRL, I often see you describing women as "hors," but I'm curious if there are any that you do not consider to be "hors." I understand what you are saying, and in this current situation I'm definiteley still watching out, but your consistent "shes a hor," "you're the next pimp in line" advice makes me wonder. If all women are "hors" then what is a DJ seeking love to do? Or would you say that seeking love is "corrupt"?

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

I never state "all women are hors" - see the "chauvenism" thread by mr style on the bottom of page 7.

I always say all hors are hors!!!

A hor is "If you are sexing a girl and she isn't your wife then she is hoing!!!!" This is a science not a art!

Your girl is a dangerouds hor - trust me kid - be careful!!! Don't even think that you are the only man she is sexing!!! NEVER!!!!

She doesn't want to be exclusive wiith you? WHY? She wants your penis but not a relationship?? WHY? WHY? WHY? This is not a woman talking - this is a Hor (with a capital "H") talking!!!

Why? Because she doesn't want a man to control her corrupted horish ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you going to allow her to sex other men if she is your "g/f" ----would any man let her g/f suck another man's penis and then come back and kiss her man??? Emphatically NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hors are "liberated", meaning "corrupted" they corrupt their feminine nature for the sake of wanting penises moreso than the masculine nature of a man in which the woman was naturally designed to please!!!

This hor is dangerous!!! You cannot tame a hor!!! Don't try to!!

Pimp the hor - don't get emotional with her!!!!

 

[Qualtran]

I get what you are saying after reading over some of your other responses. Basically, any girl that I am having sex with that is not going to become my wife is a "hor." Your whole idea is to never get emotionally involved with a "hor" because she is eventually going to move on and be another dude's "hor."

I think that is pretty solid advice, and I can definiteley see how it applies to my situation given what I have said. However, one thing I think may become a problem if your advice is taken too far is that DJ's will never allow themselves to develop a good relationship with an un-"hor." I see it in your other posts: you are always talking about how impossible it is to find a woman. So your advice is solid, but at the same time I question if your logic is distorted by your own bitterness at not being able to get/allow yourself to get a decent girl.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

"Bitter" Who??? What??? Go read my last 4,000 posts and tell me where I have errored or disappointed - I have NEVER, kid!!!! Why? You ask? I say, "Becuase truth is never in error!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"Logic" is never distorted and it is what it is!!!! Logic is reasoning and reasoning finds distortions and corrects them and brings truth to the forefront for all to see!!

An "un-hor" is a "virgin" - why not just say "virgin" instead of AN "UNHOR"???

Getting a woman is very easy - very easy - just be a man and follow your nature!! Getting a hor complicates things because a man must go outside of his nature and be that which is acceptable and pleasing to a hor!!!! Very unnatural indeed!!!

 

[tmpgstx]

However, one thing I think may become a problem if your advice is taken too far is that DJ's will never allow themselves to develop a good relationship with an un-"hor."

No, just not with girls who say "I only want to be exclusively sexually with you, but not in an LTR". What the hell is that? To be exclusive with someone sexually IS an LTR!

Think about it Qualtran .. this girl is no good, just by that statement alone. This should be a huge red flag to you. You say you're being cautious, but only because you're getting sex that is causing you to defend her. You're looking for love and an LTR, and this girl definitely isn't it. The more wrapped up you get, the worse it's going to get.

The advice stated here is good sound advice, I can vouch for it as i've been through my entanglements with girlz of this nature, but only because i let them. You say bitter? Maybe. A huge waste of time and effort on my part being novel while, only to be cheated on in the end (after a couple of years). lt's like constructing something complicated and then having it smashed to pieces because of the effort you made to make it work, because making it work is your nature. I make everything work that i want to work, and that is good for achieving goals, but when it comes to having an LTR with a very insecure, un-confident woman, it's just a matter of time before what you construct in terms of what you think is solid turns out to be a total dissappointment! So yeah, some bitterness, but left with that. I'm moving on to better people.

 

[Qualtran]

Based solely on the exclusive sexually but not bf/gf line she gave me about a month ago, such advice is good. But a lot has developed since from my perspective.

When she told me that line, I had been doing AFC things like bringing her flowers all the time, calling her too much, etc. Instead of just breaking it off, she chose to warn me first. Since that convo, I backed off, and she consistently called wanting to hang out almost every day until the end of the semester, while I sat back.

We were pretty much inseperable (except when I would go out with my friends) the last two weeks of finals, and we slept together most of the nights (again, she did most of the calling to set it all up). At the end of it all, we went to her parents house for 3 days and she was highly affectionate right in front of them, holding my hand, kissing me, sitting on my lap. In my experience, girls do not act like that towards a guy who is just a F-buddy.

Part of the thing too, is that I'm gone for the summer starting a week from now and I will not be able to see her at all until schools starts or contact her more than once a week. She has always been the one to bring up the "what is our status" question, and I always have answered, "lets have a good time now, and in the future when we see eachother again if the attraction is still there I see no reason not to keep having fun."

So I think the advice is good, and I am still keeping a very watchful eye, I'm just not quite ready to NEXT this one since things have changed so much since the comment the advice is based on.

 

[tmpgstx]

I hear ya Dawg, but his girl is trouble. It's written all over her actions. First off, you guys put the cart before the horse by having sex without developing any bond other than sex. Anytime you start a relationship predicated on sex, it isn't what you're looking for in an LTR. She is the type of girl that puts out right away too .. think about that.

 

[Qualtran]

Anytime you start a relationship predicated on sex, it isn't what you're looking for in an LTR. She is the type of girl that puts out right away too

We were close friends for 5 months before anything happened, then it was about 1.5 months after we first hooked up that we had sex. I'm the 4th guy she has ever been with. So its not like our relationship is predicated on sex, since we were close before anything ever happened.

 

[tmpgstx]

That's good! Starting to sound better ... but .. it's just the exclusive sex comment without an LTR. This wreaks of promiscuity .. in other words no committment or morals to base it on with a comment like that.

Doesn't this say something about her character? You guys will be apart now for summer?

 

[Qualtran]

An interesting thing to note is that the last guy she dated before me for about a year, she never called her "boyfriend." She said she was in love with him and exclusive, but for some reason afraid of that term.

So she just called me the other day and said that she is starting birth control again since she wants to be able to have unprotected sex with me. We agreed to get tested for stds prior to unprotected.

We are going to be apart most of the summer, but I will probably see her a couple times. I'm pretty into her, but at the same time I don't want to get all distracted by a long distance thing while I need to focus on what I'm doing this summer. Basically my idea right now is that I would like to keep the momentum built up at the end of the semester going until the fall, and then do the LTR thing.