"lets just be friends" prob
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yanman said:
There, thats your problem. Women smell that and bang, they send you SIGN THAT THEY ARE NOT INTO YOU.
She is not into you. She is not in love with you. You are freaking the lady out.
You had a chance to nail her because she wanted some action that night, but thats all she wanted.
She doesnt deserve you stressing about her, so quit it. What you should do is move on, talk to another girl that is drunk, take her to your place and bang her. After you done say good bye, and try not to talk to her for 3 days.
On the bright side, youve just come across a resource that will change your life. Im guessing you dont know anything about DJing nor PUA. Youre a freaking AFC. Heck, you couldnt even get it up when you got lucky and brought a woman home. Right? Stick to this stuff and dont quit, it will make you a better person.
downhill from there mate. Out of 10 women, 8 I would say want you to make a move in a situation like that. She went back to your place for god's sake! Unless she's really really drunk, she knows what she's doing.
Sending her flowers was nuts as well. The best advice would be to leave her alone for a while and look for other targets.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
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you could not possibly be "madly in love" with someone you have only flirted with and barely even chilled with (you haven't even been in a date)
i don't knwo where to start, just read the don juan bible, it's at the bottom of the page.
i don't knwo where to start, just read the don juan bible, it's at the bottom of the page.
You act like a gay lord.. AFC means average frustrated chump. You are average, frustrated, and
emotional
Women are emotional. Men are strong, unless they are frustrated chumps who dont know what women are all about. Why are you emotional? She showed you affection when she flirted with you, she was not attracted to you, youre a stalking freak.
emotional
Women are emotional. Men are strong, unless they are frustrated chumps who dont know what women are all about. Why are you emotional? She showed you affection when she flirted with you, she was not attracted to you, youre a stalking freak.
None of us is here to put you down.
http://www.doubleyourdating.com/
That eBook will teach you how to act with women so that they are not just feel affection to you, but also are attracted to you. It wont teach you everything if you read it, it will give you direction and change your life for ever. This is the best way to spend your money.
Scenario:
YOU meet a girl. Everything goes well. After a day or two you contact her and she acts like shes busy, sick, anything. You get your little heart brocken and cry about her. Then you go into depression for 6 months.
Then you meet another girl. And same thing happens again, again, and again.
Maybe you end up with a girl that you marry. Who will easily manipulate you because she is educated and you are not.
The above example is YOU. Stop arguing or asking silly questions, buy the book in order to understand your current situation.
That girl? She might offer to be your friend. That is a friend that she can call once a month if she needs to move a couch, no sex. A friend means just that. She is not interested in you remantically, there is no BUTs, IFs, or MAYBEs..
If you leave her alone now and dont talk to her, MAYBE you could start over in a year. But only if you study the seduction science.
http://www.doubleyourdating.com/
That eBook will teach you how to act with women so that they are not just feel affection to you, but also are attracted to you. It wont teach you everything if you read it, it will give you direction and change your life for ever. This is the best way to spend your money.
Scenario:
YOU meet a girl. Everything goes well. After a day or two you contact her and she acts like shes busy, sick, anything. You get your little heart brocken and cry about her. Then you go into depression for 6 months.
Then you meet another girl. And same thing happens again, again, and again.
Maybe you end up with a girl that you marry. Who will easily manipulate you because she is educated and you are not.
The above example is YOU. Stop arguing or asking silly questions, buy the book in order to understand your current situation.
That girl? She might offer to be your friend. That is a friend that she can call once a month if she needs to move a couch, no sex. A friend means just that. She is not interested in you remantically, there is no BUTs, IFs, or MAYBEs..
If you leave her alone now and dont talk to her, MAYBE you could start over in a year. But only if you study the seduction science.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
i have read the 1st article at the bible and sort of realized exactly what happend...
when i hooked up wth i where in my comfort zone (behind the bar) where im the king and have confidence and than when we got to my place i wimp'd
i flincht suddenly al the confidence was gone.
i think im starting to "see the light"
when i hooked up wth i where in my comfort zone (behind the bar) where im the king and have confidence and than when we got to my place i wimp'd
i flincht suddenly al the confidence was gone.
i think im starting to "see the light"
Well maybe. The problem I saw was you contacting her the next day. That and not fvcking her when you got her home. Why do you think she went home with you? Dont bother, the correct answer is sex.... Women like sex.
Nah, you cant realize or learn any of this so quickly. You might get ideas, but they are not concrete. It takes time and some practise to understand things. I recommend you get Double your Dating. Its an awesome book.
Now, you are studying this so that you can pick and choose which woman you want, instead of leaving this to chances and feeling like sh1t every time. Dont be thinking about that girl, you have no chance with her. Just move on and get on with this study.
Nah, you cant realize or learn any of this so quickly. You might get ideas, but they are not concrete. It takes time and some practise to understand things. I recommend you get Double your Dating. Its an awesome book.
Now, you are studying this so that you can pick and choose which woman you want, instead of leaving this to chances and feeling like sh1t every time. Dont be thinking about that girl, you have no chance with her. Just move on and get on with this study.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
LJBF is a feminine social contrivance. Women have used the LJBF rejection for a hundred years because it serves an ego preservation function for her. To a greater or lesser degree, women require attention and the more they have of it the more affirmation they experience, both personally and socially. The LJBF rejection has classically ensured that a woman can reject a man yet still maintain his previous attention. It also puts the responsibility for the rejection back on his shoulders since, should he decline the 'offer of friendship', he is then responsible for entertaining this friendship. This of course has the potential to backfire on women these days since the standard AFC will accept a LJBF rejection in the mistaken hopes of 'proving' himself worthy of her intimacy by being the perfect 'surrogate boyfriend' - fulfilling all her attention and loyalty prerequisites with no expectation of reciprocating her own intimacy.
The LJBF rejection also serves as an ego preservation for her in that having offered the false olive branch of 'friendship' to him in her rejection she also can sleep that night knowing that she (and any of her peers) wont think any less of herself. After all, she offered to be friends, right? She is absolved of any feelings of personal guilt or any responsibilities for his feelings if she still wants to remain amiable with him.
I think the default response should be to take a LJBF as a rejection (and her loss) ergo, you remove the reinforcer - attention. Up until the point you made an approach for her intimacy she was enjoying the benefit of your attentions. After a LJBF response her latent intent is to keep that reinforcer of attention. Do not reward her for this disingenuous response, she will only use it on you again or with another guy in a similar situation since it was reinforced the last time this circumstance was experienced. And should the next fellow reinforce it further she will internalize this as her standard response.
Obviously the best way to enact this is to use a takeaway and turn down her LJBF. An outright refusal of her pseudo-friendship offer would be ideal, but not always possible given social settings, however a takeaway is always warranted. Mmost women, whether serious or not in their LJBF rejection, will almost always follow up with some kind of communication when you do remove your previous attentions. This was a previous reinforcer to her and like most animals when faced with a behavioral extinction, she will attempt to re-establish that reward. This is why if you do end up cutting all contact with her she will have a tendency to pursue - and depending on the individual sometimes more actively pursue - your attention, even if she has no intent of becoming intimate with you. Women do this in an effort to maintain self-affirmation (i.e. she wants to verify everything is 'OK' between you and her in an email or IM) after a rejection.
The LJBF rejection also serves as an ego preservation for her in that having offered the false olive branch of 'friendship' to him in her rejection she also can sleep that night knowing that she (and any of her peers) wont think any less of herself. After all, she offered to be friends, right? She is absolved of any feelings of personal guilt or any responsibilities for his feelings if she still wants to remain amiable with him.
I think the default response should be to take a LJBF as a rejection (and her loss) ergo, you remove the reinforcer - attention. Up until the point you made an approach for her intimacy she was enjoying the benefit of your attentions. After a LJBF response her latent intent is to keep that reinforcer of attention. Do not reward her for this disingenuous response, she will only use it on you again or with another guy in a similar situation since it was reinforced the last time this circumstance was experienced. And should the next fellow reinforce it further she will internalize this as her standard response.
Obviously the best way to enact this is to use a takeaway and turn down her LJBF. An outright refusal of her pseudo-friendship offer would be ideal, but not always possible given social settings, however a takeaway is always warranted. Mmost women, whether serious or not in their LJBF rejection, will almost always follow up with some kind of communication when you do remove your previous attentions. This was a previous reinforcer to her and like most animals when faced with a behavioral extinction, she will attempt to re-establish that reward. This is why if you do end up cutting all contact with her she will have a tendency to pursue - and depending on the individual sometimes more actively pursue - your attention, even if she has no intent of becoming intimate with you. Women do this in an effort to maintain self-affirmation (i.e. she wants to verify everything is 'OK' between you and her in an email or IM) after a rejection.
Good post by Rollo
yanman dont run away. Every guy in here been in your shoes.
Here is my response to lets just be friends:
HER: I think we should be just friends.
ME: No, thank you. I have lots of friends. See you later.
and walk away.... No talking to the girl from that point on.
Women always come back after you say that. This is true for LJBF situations and when there is an obvious attempt by you to approach one and she ignores you, and then you ignore her and dont stress about it.
I got one such chick living in my building trying to get my attention. Mmmmm.
yanman dont run away. Every guy in here been in your shoes.
Here is my response to lets just be friends:
HER: I think we should be just friends.
ME: No, thank you. I have lots of friends. See you later.
and walk away.... No talking to the girl from that point on.
Women always come back after you say that. This is true for LJBF situations and when there is an obvious attempt by you to approach one and she ignores you, and then you ignore her and dont stress about it.
I got one such chick living in my building trying to get my attention. Mmmmm.
Peace and Quiet
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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Mind_Body_Soul
Senior Don Juan
banGbro said:Good post by Rollo
HER: I think we should be just friends.
ME: No, thank you. I have lots of friends. See you later.
and walk away.... No talking to the girl from that point on.
Same here. I've used this response and it works, quite well. And you leave feeling like you are in the power seat.Good post RT.
In my case would be depending if the woman was previously intimate with me (e.g. I already had sex with her) or if she never had sex with me.
If I have an interest and we never had sex and she says: "We can just be friends".
My reply is always the same: "I don't want to be your friend." If she continues, then I simply stop 100% communication with her.
Now, if the woman was one that used to be intimate with me...and let's assume she wants to end sex and comes with the: "Let's just be friends."
My reply might be (assuming she didn't cheat): "Okay. We can be friends".
But I would simply stop communication and my attention will also go away.
Once again...those are the women doing the "LJBF" crap.
In my case would be depending if the woman was previously intimate with me (e.g. I already had sex with her) or if she never had sex with me.
If I have an interest and we never had sex and she says: "We can just be friends".
My reply is always the same: "I don't want to be your friend." If she continues, then I simply stop 100% communication with her.
Now, if the woman was one that used to be intimate with me...and let's assume she wants to end sex and comes with the: "Let's just be friends."
My reply might be (assuming she didn't cheat): "Okay. We can be friends".
But I would simply stop communication and my attention will also go away.
Once again...those are the women doing the "LJBF" crap.