Lets just admit that society would be a lot better off with a lot less men.

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Someone has to say it and even if we agree with the feminists on this, it is true.

There are simply too many guys.

For most of us DJs, this spells a massive issue. We talk about how Eastern European countries are great for men but the reason for this is because the gender ratios there are even. Here in the US, among most people in the 18-35 age range, they are actually more rigged towards men being more common and this is a big problem because now we have the epidemic of thirst.

There are thirsty guys because there aren't enough women to go around let alone fit ones.

Even if we had to deal with the misfortune of thirsty men in a society where fit women were more common than men, it would hardly mean much. But the reality is we live in an American society where men outnumber women during the prime years (18-35, pull up a population pyramid and you will see I am right), there are not enough women to go around for the amount of men we have.

So now we have to deal with what truly is the worst enemy of men, it isn't feminism, it is thirsty trash from our gender who inflate the egos of 3s and 4s.

The problem isn't feminism, they have feminism in Europe too but the issue is not as bad as it is in the US or the Anglo world. Problem is that we have too many guys and not enough women.

First of all the issue is competition, there is too much of it, but then there are a lot of guys who just get in the way.

There are thirsty beta males that inflate egos of 4s and boost the ego of plain looking women.

All of these issues the average guy experiences he experiences because the problem is there are way too many men.

Now I know @bigneil might call me a feminist but lets ask a simple question to any guy on here.

Would you rather live in a city where the single female to single male ratio is 2:1 or one where it is 1:2?

I am sure even @skinnyguy knows the answer to that.
 

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Good points..

But go out more!

(;
 

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no, we as individuals would be better off with less men, society as a whole would be ****ed.
 

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Would you rather live in a city where the single female to single male ratio is 2:1 or one where it is 1:2?
if you live in the east of the US then the ratio of single women is already in your favor

We didn't have too many men here. But when Obama started letting in tons of easterners and middle easterners (who kill their girl infants), he imported the problem of too many men to the US.
the US isn't having a refugee crisis fam.
 

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So now we have to deal with what truly is the worst enemy of men, it isn't feminism, it is thirsty trash from our gender who inflate the egos of 3s and 4s.
There are also the trash PUAs.
Who cares if the 3s and 4s get their egos inflated though? I doubt if many of us here want to date or have sex with them.
Anyway, if you accept Mystery's assertion that girls aged 18-24 are the most desirable, obviously they are attracting guys from nearly every age group, so yeah there will be a lot of guys after the hottest women (thirsty or not).
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I think OP is confusing the current dating market with the dating market in the 1990's, where there were 6 single men for every single woman with no kids never married (due to the Baby Boomers cherry-picking Generation X, pardon the pun).

I've been having more and more success for the past 10 years. So no matter what market conditions, you can compensate by improving.
 

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So now we have to deal with what truly is the worst enemy of men, it isn't feminism, it is thirsty trash from our gender who inflate the egos of 3s and 4s.

The problem isn't feminism, they have feminism in Europe too but the issue is not as bad as it is in the US or the Anglo world. Problem is that we have too many guys and not enough women.

First of all the issue is competition, there is too much of it, but then there are a lot of guys who just get in the way.
LOL. This post reminds me of the first episode of The Cosby Show, where Cliff Huxtable is teaching his Theo basic life lessons in Math using monopoly money. Cliff gives him $1200 to start with, and keeps taking money away explaining to Theo it costs a bit of money to live decently. Theo keeps taking some of it back saying it doesn't cost that much and he can get by being lazy.

Just like this post. OP is angry he has to put more effort, time, and work than his European counterparts to get sex from good looking women. He just wants to have sex with good looking young women at his will.

Bro, I know we all want to be Hollywood stars with millions in the bank and have the best good looking top girls swoon over us, but that is not life. If you want good looking girls without putting effort in, you have to be: (1) genetically blessed (2) born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Otherwise, you have to put in the WORK. Yes it sucks. Yes its unfair other guys get sex and you don't, but that's life. If you PUT IN THE WORK, the results will show themselves.

Come on men.

We didn't have too many men here. But when Obama started letting in tons of easterners and middle easterners (who kill their girl infants), he imported the problem of too many men to the US.

But then, he hates white men so it should be no shock he wanted to destroy them.
Don't worry, President Trump is doing everything in his power to reverse it.
 

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Someone has to say it and even if we agree with the feminists on this, it is true.

There are simply too many guys.

For most of us DJs, this spells a massive issue. We talk about how Eastern European countries are great for men but the reason for this is because the gender ratios there are even. Here in the US, among most people in the 18-35 age range, they are actually more rigged towards men being more common and this is a big problem because now we have the epidemic of thirst.

There are thirsty guys because there aren't enough women to go around let alone fit ones.

Even if we had to deal with the misfortune of thirsty men in a society where fit women were more common than men, it would hardly mean much. But the reality is we live in an American society where men outnumber women during the prime years (18-35, pull up a population pyramid and you will see I am right), there are not enough women to go around for the amount of men we have.

So now we have to deal with what truly is the worst enemy of men, it isn't feminism, it is thirsty trash from our gender who inflate the egos of 3s and 4s.

The problem isn't feminism, they have feminism in Europe too but the issue is not as bad as it is in the US or the Anglo world. Problem is that we have too many guys and not enough women.

First of all the issue is competition, there is too much of it, but then there are a lot of guys who just get in the way.

There are thirsty beta males that inflate egos of 4s and boost the ego of plain looking women.

All of these issues the average guy experiences he experiences because the problem is there are way too many men.

Now I know @bigneil might call me a feminist but lets ask a simple question to any guy on here.

Would you rather live in a city where the single female to single male ratio is 2:1 or one where it is 1:2?

I am sure even @skinnyguy knows the answer to that.
Imagine the uproar if we said the same thing about women. There are thirsty guys because they don't know any better, not because we're inherently bad due to numbers.
 

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A single good looking girl behaves differently if she is the only girl in a room full of guys than if she is one of the 5 girls in a room with just two men, even differently if those other 5 girls are all hot.

While the maths is a huge point, the perception and the attitude that comes from it makes a hell of a difference.

Im souther european and when I was in high school every fking girl despite being a hairy dwarf was used to see guys as an abundant replacable good, then we went a week in poland.

Needless to say in a matter of minutes they had no more attention, their self esteem was destroyed from those nice sexy blondies around us and INTERESTED in us.
There was so much difference in game between us and guys there that it was pleasable even before than easy, every effort was encouraged and paid back.

Then the magic happened, they stopped being a pain in the ass or behaving like cvnts, they stop to FEEL like divas and begun to act in a dealable way.

The point is not the M:F ratio but the fact that in the long run such ration influence social dynamics, you get the comfortable sex to get more spoiled and drop quality while the other reaching higher and higher standards therefore making all the situation even worse.
Add to that cultural curses like political correctness that increase the worsening conditions.
 

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Strange to hear someone suggesting that we need a Malthusian limit event to cull the number of men.

The issue is simply one of personal accountability. One can't control all the circumstances but there are several that can be controlled.

You control your actions. You choose with whom you want to interact. You choose what events you wish to attend.
 

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When women find 80 percent of men to be below average, the female to male ratio isn't that critical.

Even if you had a sizable surplus of women, it would make little difference/improvement for 80+
percent of men.

I used to believe that women (even ugly ones) got ego boosts from average guys approaching them. I don't believe that anymore. If it's a non-Chad, she will be unaffected at best and insulted at worst.

Does she get a kick out of rejecting them? Yes perhaps. But not from their approach per se, if he's average.
 
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People who complains there is "too much competitions" are the people who can't make it and want to rig the market in their hands.

So if I were to agreed their is too much man on this planet or sector.. Let's have the women chose who to remove.... would you be on the list Gao?

The point being... True the more men, the more competition... but why the top 1% never complain... because the best is always the best and doesnt have to worry.

I am on the track of the 1%.... heck half of my clients (lawyer) and half of my collegues/professionnal peer (financial planners).. complain about having too much collèges... it screams the mâture market or the "only the best will make it"

Gao, I have a surprise for you... their is more women everywhere on earth than their is mâle (except in China)... men are 48% of the population, female 52%

Also, if you go to university... women tends to be around 50% to 70% of the population.

Take à psychology class.. you'l be the only guy... and report on your success.

Like Chelios said: leave the basement, improve and enjoy the over-abundance of chicks
 

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I was not talking about the world, I was talking about America.

"Competition" is not the issue when 4s and 5s are getting ego boosts due to the fact that we have way too many guys, therefore a lot of losers who feel left out and chase after these hags. If 4s and 5s are getting ego boosts then 9s and 10s must be insane in that regard.

People think that you can work your way up to top 1% status but you can't, you have to more or less be born into it or get very lucky (become a celeb).

Most decent men with above average looks, good salary, and decent game are left chasing scraps because:

1. Overabundance of men means the women left don't even have to care, they have a p*ssy so that is their advantage, there are enough men to go around.

2. Overabundance of men means more hurdles and conflicts, everytime you go out you have to face some WK loser, some guys have no business in the game as they ruin it for everyone.

3. Overabundance of men means WOMEN decide and not above average guys, because you have to deal with the fact that even a 4 has been hit on a lot by losers of your gender.

The fact is there are too many men around, they are of no good to society and of no use, they just make it harder for most guys who have their lives together.
 

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Yes and no.

Yes, in places like Man Jose there are a bunch of nerdy FOB engineers. Bars are sausage fests. But if we had more women and fewer men, the same problem would exist. You'd have a majority of the women sleeping with 20% of the men. @mrgoodstuff shows us that there are more women than men in the US.

You're forgetting there are a ton of female AFCs out there. A bunch of single people exist in every city, both men and women. It's just that the male AFCs are more visible and desperate. I could go on OKC right now and find hundreds and hundreds of women who haven't gotten laid in years.

In small town America, there is no overabundance of men. Everyone is married and the males don't act desperate.
 

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According to this US Cencus report in 2010 it the US population was 50.8% females, and today in 2017 it's 49.2% females: https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf

So there is not this overabundance of males.
the age group makes the difference, men die younger so 65+ women screw the stats.

The M:F ratio changes in different age groups where the older you get the more women are, except that above 30 hardly we need them so bad
 

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Man you gotta get out of your own head. You are so cynical it seriously annoying. It's no wonder why you hate everyone and everything. Seriously, it is what it is. What are you doing to fix it? Stop posting nonsense threads that are bound to get locked half the time and start posting some info that will get people to be better without actually getting bitter.

Oh and by the way, there are more women than men in western civ countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sex_ratio
If anything, we need MORE men to create a stronger masculine presence in society. The places where there are more men almost have women oppressed so your philosophy is a stupid one.
 

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I was not talking about the world, I was talking about America.

"Competition" is not the issue when 4s and 5s are getting ego boosts due to the fact that we have way too many guys, therefore a lot of losers who feel left out and chase after these hags. If 4s and 5s are getting ego boosts then 9s and 10s must be insane in that regard.

People think that you can work your way up to top 1% status but you can't, you have to more or less be born into it or get very lucky (become a celeb).

Most decent men with above average looks, good salary, and decent game are left chasing scraps because:

1. Overabundance of men means the women left don't even have to care, they have a p*ssy so that is their advantage, there are enough men to go around.

2. Overabundance of men means more hurdles and conflicts, everytime you go out you have to face some WK loser, some guys have no business in the game as they ruin it for everyone.

3. Overabundance of men means WOMEN decide and not above average guys, because you have to deal with the fact that even a 4 has been hit on a lot by losers of your gender.

The fact is there are too many men around, they are of no good to society and of no use, they just make it harder for most guys who have their lives together.
Man the f up and step up your game. If getting to 1% financial status or fame is the only way to get women then your game is feeble.

Too many men is a bull**** excuse.

Women have always had options they just now suffer from overinflated egos and paralysis analysis due to an over abundance of choice from dating apps.

If your game is tight then guys with no game should be of no consequence. If a guy with little game bags a girl then so what chances are he'll screw it up or the woman wasn't worth chasing because she settled for less than market value.

Women have always decided abundance or no. Men choose whether or not they wish to pursue and escalate upon a woman's initial subcommunication of interest.

Your opinion doesn't equal fact.

Me doth think thou protesteth too much.
 

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This is how one becomes MGTOW, the frustrations of the game are real
If you're not getting the type of women you want, you either gonna to step your game up or change your environment
If live in a hyper-competitive place it can be tough but as Don Juan we should always strive to be a 5% Man
If you can't change your enivorment, I had a buddy living in san diego who is an average looking fella
Once he hit 30 he stopped getting the women he wanted, eventually he went to Thailand and was banging a different girl every week until he met one he liked
Point of the story? once he changed his environment he was able to improve drastically
 
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