Let's Be Real Here Pt.2 - WOMEN are the prize

[AureliusMaximus]

That need has been replaced by the government and feminism, so the usefulness of men has subsided considerably.

Yet... Remove every guy from the face of the earth and the whole civilization will end in a week or two.
Imagine women work as coal/metal miners or oil roughnecks, sewage maintenance or all other dirty and other dangerous shyte jobs that we guys perform which must be done for society just to function on a basic level.
It won't happen.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Every man on sosauve should be aware of his worth and carry himself like a boss.

Yep, walk proudly every day!

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Do you truly believe the stories of prostitutes being attracted to their pimps? Dude, they're mostly scared he'll put them in the hospital or worse.

Wanna tag @kavi for this one.

Interestingly this is something I've heard a pimp say recently. A real pimp who has hookers working for him that is.

He said he'll visit a woman and do nothing. Just sit ACROSS her( not next to her!!) and vibe with her. Not too long, and gone. His philosophy obviously was indeed to take away her power completely.

The main reason this worked for him was because he had the TRUE ABUNDANCE mindset. No thirst. Eventually the woman in case will go through all kinds of mental gymnastics and she'll be BEGGING him tk suck his D or whatever.

That mindset is so far removed and different from lets say "my own" way of operating. I've rather operated from a thirsty/gratefull pov. Or desperate may be the word .

 

[Gamisch]

Do you truly believe the stories of prostitutes being attracted to their pimps? Dude, they're mostly scared he'll put them in the hospital or worse.

I get that.

Yet they wont ever "call the police" or even use specific programs to escape from men like that.

There's also a part of her that 2wants to be there. Makes even more (or less) sense when you look at "normal " women going for seemingly the lowest hanging fruit.

 

[zekko]

Yet... Remove every guy from the face of the earth and the whole civilization will end in a week or two.
Imagine women work as coal/metal miners or oil roughnecks, sewage maintenance or all other dirty and other dangerous shyte jobs that we guys perform which must be done for society just to function on a basic level.

That's collective value, as opposed to one on one SMV though.

 

[Gypsypie]

yeah risking your life to fight in the deadliest war in human history against the most evil ideology of mankind deserves this lol.

It was probably more of a sign of the times in that women couldn't be financially independent or have much of a sex life without being married, their life and lifestyle depended on the type of man they could catch.

 

[Gypsypie]

And yet, you go to Russia, Ukraine, many other countries in Eastern Europe and just about everywhere in the third world and all you need to attract women is to have functioning d!ck, not be unemployed and not be a hardcore alcoholic. The same was true in the West until the 1960’s.

The reason why women are the “prize” in western and westernized countries is because men have created social rules that benefit women at the expense of men. If you build a society where women get protection and financial security without having to give anything in return, don’t be surprised that your worth is nothing.

In England until 1972 a woman couldn't get a loan in her own name without her husband or father's signature. There was a need for women to be married unless their father kept them forever. So they had a lot to lose by not keeping their man happy. Gradually over time they could earn their own money, have their own loans, have kids as single parents and not have the same dependency.

 

[zekko]

One of the things that I never understood and baffled me in the red pill is that you (the man) are the prize. And the women should compete for you. That might be true if you are a tall multi-millionaire, but for the ordinary guy, or even the above average guy this is not the case.

A lot of the early PUAs ran into girls who would think they were gay, because they were trying to "flip the script", and were trying to reverse the gender roles so that they (the male) was the one being pursued. Men are strong and aggressive, and women are given softness and beauty so that males pursue them, it's nature. The "I am the prize" idea is just to boost the male's self esteem and remind him he has value.

Another thing that speaks to women's sexual value is that one womb = one baby. It takes 100 women to have 100 babies. One penis could impregnate all 100 women if need be. If there are 100 guys, 99 of them could be disposable as long as there is one guy left to procreate.

 

[manfrombelow]

Actually nobody are "prizes". At the end of the day (and when all noises have been silent), we must never stop improving our "levels" in all aspects of life. We better ourselves everyday for our own sake, people coming over is just a side effect.

 

[Smooth_texter]

Here is a real life experiment by pwf, showing the reality.

TLDR of the video - an obese woman got 474 likes in 24hrs, and most of the guys from various ages simped hard;

Here is the longer version:

Nobody from those guys looked seemed like a prize to be honest.
A simple solution would have been to never simp for any woman, and ignore below a certain SMV.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Here is a real life experiment by pwf, showing the reality.

TLDR of the video - an obese woman got 474 likes in 24hrs, and most of the guys from various ages simped hard;

Here is the longer version:

Nobody from those guys looked seemed like a prize to be honest.
A simple solution would have been to never simp for any woman, and ignore below a certain SMV.

Yeah most women's options aren't that great. Men have options too, but they choose to not dumpster dive or harpoon.

 

[Smooth_texter]

Yeah most women's options aren't that great. Men have options too, but they choose to not dumpster dive or harpoon.

On the contrary, this video shows that those men actually chose to dumpster dive, and a decent portion of them were dead serious about it. I presume they did this because getting even an average looking gal would be nearly impossible.

 

[Gamisch]

Here is a real life experiment by pwf, showing the reality.

TLDR of the video - an obese woman got 474 likes in 24hrs, and most of the guys from various ages simped hard;

Here is the longer version:

Nobody from those guys looked seemed like a prize to be honest.
A simple solution would have been to never simp for any woman, and ignore below a certain SMV.

Someone gotta explain this..i simply dont get it..

My brain's EXPLODING. 65 Y.O, fat, no face it DOESN'T Matter!!! We as men have failed our grandfathers , our fellow men and ofcourse OURSELVES beyond belief!

 

[CornbreadFed]

On the contrary, this video shows that those men actually chose to dumpster dive, and a decent portion of them were dead serious about it. I presume they did this because getting even an average looking gal would be nearly impossible.

I have had dry spells and struggles with women, but dumpster diving has never been a solution for me, even during my darkest days. Imagine what type of man would willingly do that.

 

[Stoic]

Women are actually born with an innate value that society highly appraises (their fertilely, youth, beauty etc.), and protects (Women are the protected gender), thus women are living on easy mode until their late thirties and can all tools such as makeup, and other tools to improve their beauty/looks do the dance the waltz of easy through life and be both lookup up too and be desired for it.

On the other hand; we men are born into this world with no such thing as value at all. We are the disposable gender that is expected to die in wars for our country and be the ones that go down with the ship to protect the women and children. So for men to have value we have to make ourselves valuable to society and take decisive action and actually do something and build, invent, start companies and be on an constant journey of personal growth. That takes time and loads of effort before we reach that point. Usually somewhere between thirties --> to --> fifties is where most men become the high value version of themselves.

These are the distinct differences between the sexes and also why men build, maintain societies and civilization, meanwhile women are not really much of contributors to societies as a whole, but merely users of of and what men has built. Their highest contribution to civilization is of child birth and carry our children for the continuation of our species; the human race. Actually women through out history are more contributors to the decay of civilization as they (as port of their survival strategy), tend to not be loyal to their country's/society etc. and they will associate and mate with the conquerors and winners of wars. We seen this over and over again throughout history, jus take the "nazi7german girls" that we women of the conquered nations like France, Belgium, that monkey branched over to the German soldiers during ww2, (and thus heavily punished later when the war was over). We see this to in all the craziness that liberal women promote these days, (Gay/tranny agenda, racial education, feminist agenda just to mention a few insane thing liberal women promote), which doesn't build but tear down the walls of society and traditional good values that eventually create strong men and women. Being a good wife in a core family used to be a good thing for example which helped children to evolve into healthy members of society, but that is as we all know not the case anymore. So it all adds to the decay of the western civilization.

It's indeed man's world like James Brown sang in his song:

and we all know it and women and thus feminist hate this indisputable truth.

No matter what or how they try to twist it to that wahmen are independent boss bytches that need no men and men ain't shyte they all know that the real fact is that women are dependable of men for their own survival:

Well the laugh is on us men because we know the deal. They need us and without us they are nothing.

We might not be born and valued from the start of our lives, but it is us high value guys that brings the bacon that society need to function and thus we are the gender of highest value in the end, while women as they age are the losers and of lower value than us.

Good take

interestingly, not too long ago, China, had a one birth per married couple law. Girls were valued very lowly. Boys were prized. Many girls were given up for adoption. I got this information from my Chinese buddy. I’m pretty lazy to research this, but fairly certain this is true.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

not too long ago, China, had a one birth per married couple law. Girls were valued very lowly. Boys were prized. Many girls were given up for adoption.

That is correct. It did happen as part of the China Communist Party's plan to control the population of China.

 

[johnrambo]

One of the things that I never understood and baffled me in the red pill is that you (the man) are the prize. And the women should compete for you. That might be true if you are a tall multi-millionaire, but for the ordinary guy, or even the above average guy this is not the case.

Yup, you go to school to get a 70-h/week job...it's for p*ssy....go to the gym to beef up...it's for p*ssy....everything a man does is ultimately to get p*ssy because men need p*ssies

 

[Smok1nAce]

Yup, you go to school to get a 70-h/week job...it's for p*ssy....go to the gym to beef up...it's for p*ssy....everything a man does is ultimately to get p*ssy because men need p*ssies

YOU do it women.

Men do these things to have money, to buy settler and food, to stay healthy and strong. Women will naturally flock to these men.

The problem today is to many men (and women) think life is owed to them. Incels think if they do these things women will fall from the sky like a prize owed to them.

Now I do agree the average men in dating has it alot harder then his father did but hes also dosent have to fight in a war or work some back breaking dangerous job.

Men are still the price, women control sex, men control relationships. Any one who cant see that is a pus$y whipped.

 

[SW15]

Here is a real life experiment by pwf, showing the reality.

TLDR of the video - an obese woman got 474 likes in 24hrs, and most of the guys from various ages simped hard;

Here is the longer version:

Nobody from those guys looked seemed like a prize to be honest.
A simple solution would have been to never simp for any woman, and ignore below a certain SMV.

474 likes for a whale in 24 hours is insane!

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Women aren’t the prize. If they were, they’d mostly have life made by 25 - married to a rich successful and handsome man and living a life of leisure for the rest of their days.
However, life works on supply/demand and most fairly attractive womens beauty gives them, at most, about 4-5 years of feeling attractive, a handful of drunken hookups/one night stands, and a couple of long term bf’s that are low value / friendzone material. They then settle at 26-30 with a guy that is worse looking than them and average income, who doesn’t know game, acts very unattractively, she barely even has sex and has to spend the rest of her life living on a budget and working a paper shoving 9-5. After sex, most men loose interest in her, stop courting her, and she relies on scraps of validation she gets from low value guys liking her stories on instagram.

men, on the other hand, have about 25 years to work on themselves and build themselves up. Being more independently minded, our lives can be as varied and interesting as we please and we don’t have a biological clock nagging us. After sex, our bargaining power in a relationship doesn’t plummet. Worst comes to worst, we can buy sex from the hottest women in the world at any given moment. Most average men end up marrying a woman above their smv, and finding deeper satisfaction in career, friends and hobbies. high value men get to bang girls endlessly. A woman can never be a prize to a high value man because he is scarce where as her beauty is easy to find and endless supply, and the competition is fierce as there are beautiful women around the world turning 18 daily

the idea that women have it easy in dating complete a fallacy. if they had so much power in the dating game, most girls that are 8s plus SHOULD in theory be landing high value men for marriage - all they need is to find ONE high status man to commit and their life is made…but what happens is they cannot get these men to commit after a few months of fun and sex and most 8s end up marrying at 28 when they are now 5s at best:

pretty much every average looking, average earning man eventually gets to marry a woman he is happy about, but most women feel they are ‘settling’ and are genuinely less happy about the card they were dealt as they are unable to satiate their biological desire to cash in their beauty for a higher social status and lifestyle. Men don’t have that desire, we just need sex and a bit of compliance. Most average middle class girls end up middle class or with a worse lifestyle than what they grew up as. Men that are serious about self improvement can turn their life around drastically -good body good income good lifestyle in 40s as a single man trumps being a 26 year old girl now competing against 18 year old girls who get more attention than you because the main thing you have to offer is your what ur face looks like!

as a man there is more work at the start of the courting, but you can relax after you have managed to sleep with a woman as you know her attraction to you is multifaceted, where as a woman has continual competition threat in every venue they atttend from complete strangers that can instantly captivate her man’s affection and make her look worse in comparison.

men that think women are the prize are men that are losers in the dating market, and need to focus on self improvement. no girl wants a man that thinks she is the prize. Nobody that is genuinely doing well with girls thinks like this.

women that sleep around are not happy, is it not a win for a girl to have random one night stands, most of these girls need therapy and many are on meds. Women do not get the same ego stroke as men from casual sex, it hurts their self image as most of their value in dating comes from withholding sex for the highest bidder. A girl that gives it away easily is no longer about to maintain high self esteem and eventually suffers from depression, goes hardcore pink hair feminist etc.