Let's Be Real Here Pt.1 - "The wall" actually starts at 50

[Smooth_texter]

Doesn't look like a European 55-year-old.

so, what is this 'wall'?

A commonly recycled red pill belief that a woman past 25-27 years old (for example) loses her looks and becomes invisible to the average man, since he can now replace her with "the current crop of 18 year olds". So she races against time, becomes desperate and settles with a faithful loser.


Perhaps this was the notion 60+ years ago. I also remember how women in my country were looked upon if they were 27+ years old, without a marriage, and childless. But that was 25 years ago. The world and norms now are a lot different.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Perhaps this was the notion 60+ years ago. I also remember how women in my country were looked upon if they were 27+ years old, without a marriage, and childless. But that was 25 years ago. The world and norms now are a lot different.

My lovers are between 25-45, but they're all beautiful in their own way.
And for men it's easier -- even if you look much older -- as younger women like older men who can lead them.

 

[logicallefty]

Do they pass the b0ner test, that’s my gage.

 

[I_have_BDE]

Your average 55-year-old guy looks like this. I know one fat obese 50 year old that turned his weight around now is extremely fit, but it took a doctor telling him that he wasn't going to live long enough to see his daughter graduate. The guy below will more than likely not get that fat, so comfortably hover around this range.

My cousin is 56, retired and tip top shape. Mostly lean muscle does cardio but also hardly ever eats fried or greasy foods and besides grey hair looks really young and no health issues.

 

[I_have_BDE]

The irony with old is the better looking women are 42 to 50, the few decent looking ones left on old.

Easy. Women, especially under 40 if decent looking don't need old unless they're head cases and drive everyone off irl they resort to old cause they're damaged. Why the 22 yr olds on old many are fat because they need old.

 

[Dr.Suave]

A commonly recycled red pill belief basic knowledge that most women past 25-27 23 years old lose their looks and become invisible to the average man, since he can now replace them with "the current crop of 18 year olds". So she races against time, becomes desperate and settles with a faithful loser.

There, fixed it

 

[Smooth_texter]

My lovers are between 25-45, but they're all beautiful in their own way.
And for men it's easier -- even if you look much older -- as younger women like older men who can lead them.

The point of the thread is to discuss the common misconception of different red pill influencers, that women over 23-24 are not desirable (which is absurd) and settle with losers. I have never seen this in reality.

Your example proves that you deal with women that are 23+.

 

[Smooth_texter]

The irony with old is the better looking women are 42 to 50, the few decent looking ones left on old.

Easy. Women, especially under 40 if decent looking don't need old unless they're head cases and drive everyone off irl they resort to old cause they're damaged. Why the 22 yr olds on old many are fat because they need old.

I also agree that women below 40 have plenty of options in real life, even without using Instagram and FB.

Having a profile in an OLD app is mostly a red flag for me (means that the woman is either not satisfied with the tens or hundreds of other options, or has some bad personal traits)

 

[Smooth_texter]

A commonly recycled red pill belief basic knowledge that most women past 25-27 23 years old lose their looks and become invisible to the average man, since he can now replace them with "the current crop of 18 year olds". So she races against time, becomes desperate and settles with a faithful loser.

There, fixed it

Yes, I believe that was the definition that most red pill influencers used 3 years ago (when I started looking into RP). However, I think that they've updated that to 28-30 last year.

In practice, how many 24 y.o. women do you know, that had no options or had to settle with a loser due to scarcity? I have never seen such cases, even of 30-35 year old women.

In modern times, if a woman cannot get her top option, she would just stay single or be part of her dream alpha's rotation.