Lets be honest, i dont care if you hate me for saying it.

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This post has 100 percent good intentions, but i know most people are going to take is otherwise. If you cant see the value of this then it doesnt apply to you anyways.

All this mystery method stuff and sets and techniques need to quit. Truley. Having gameplans is one thing, but this in depth garbage mystery puts out makes me sick. Does it work? i think it does, i believe mystery has success with this. But you DONT NEED GAMES AND TECHNIQUES TO HAVE SUCCESS WITH WOMEN. Approaching women seems so hard because its so easy. And this is not a bragging soapbox, but i have done well with women all of my life, and joined this forum to help out, and after i got messages after almost every post that i had helped someone then i just could not help but continue posting.

Bottom line: It is more satisfying to meet a woman by being you than it is by following "steps". Lets start doing this the right way: Loving yourself, believing in yourself, and approaching women. Its that simple. Period.
 

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Hair stylist said:
Bottom line: It is more satisfying to meet a woman by being you than it is by following "steps". Lets start doing this the right way: Loving yourself, believing in yourself, and approaching women. Its that simple. Period.
I completely agree. Most sexually successful men have not heard about this site and would consider some of these techniques to be a joke.
 

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Mystery's stuff and all that A1, b2 crap is annoying. I can not for the life of me remember any of that stuff. It's nerd dating by numbers to be honest. Now some people need that to get started...it's their training wheels and it gets them out of just sitting at home playing world of warcraft, so I can't knock it for that. But eventually a time comes where the training wheels have to come off. It's funny you posted this...a natural friend of mine called me to day asking me was I "kino escalating" on my dates. I was like WTF? He was watching mysteries show and lolling his ass off.
 

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HS you are spot on mate. People try to correct their approach instead of correcting themselves. Its paper mache. I find the whole thing dishonest and manipulative. Ill leave the game playing to the ladies I think.
 

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I really agree, man...

I do agree with a lot of the methods used on here (don't look like a desperate idiot, be your own man, flirt subtly and playfully, etc.) but I think the C/F and neghitting methods are used far too much for their own good.

Not that you need to be a sensitive mama's boy (that never works) but after a while I get the impression you might come off as a jackass who HAS to make jokes at someone's expense. Also, isn't less more? I neg-hit and use c/f once in a while, and I think it would get old if it was the only schtick I used around women.
 

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Women can smell desperation light years before you ever approach. The tactics and games are only there to teach those without confidence, contentment, and self-respect how to at least act like they have all those attributes.

Ever wonder why women come out of the woodwork for married men? Well, those men are taken, so they don't show any desperation or need to impress. They have absolutely nothing to lose by being themselves.

With that being said, start focusing on yourself and learn to be content with who you are and where you are in life, but have a plan to make yourself the best you can be. Don't go out and try to impress women, and lose the habit of needing them. Always act as if you know you are somebody and you're going somewhere whether you have a woman or not, and women will be drawn to you. Just let women be a desire, not a need. Don't impress, gain their interest be being your interesting self.
 

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Magic tricks, palm reading, telling her future and other assorted games? seems like overkill to me. I might bust out the awesome "I got your nose" illusion on the odd occasion but it's already common knowledge you dont even have to buy a chick a drink to free her panties, why the hell would a man want to downgrade even further in energy expended and bring out the nail polish and pack of cards?
 

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There's a big difference in being a PUA and being a natural.

I'm gearing towards natural and it shows in my life outside of women. even before i knew about this site i was already improving my life and girls were a part of that.

This site just provides different aspects and opinions about things we're not sure of yet. It doesn't say "Do this, and there's a 75% chance she'll do this if she's interested."
 

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i was thinking this exact thing in the shower last night. creepy but yea i agree with your bottom line. if you cant be yourself in the beginning then you are destined for failure since the relationship is based on a lie.
 

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Hair stylist said:
Bottom line: It is more satisfying to meet a woman by being you than it is by following "steps". Lets start doing this the right way: Loving yourself, believing in yourself, and approaching women. Its that simple. Period.
Great post. Girls who play games make dating frustrating so why should we add the problems. If you don't believe in yourself no guide book is going to help.
 

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I'm no Mystery fan or any other guru but the op's advice that picking up women is always easy and just be yourself (JBY)? Anyone with a dissenting opinion want to field JBY? Rollo?
 

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Everyone is always himself, even when he's lying his arse off on a date (then he's being himself the liar). Whether that is good enough to pick up chicks is another matter. Your nervous, insecure AFC is being himself when he's nervous and insecure while interacting with a woman he fancies.

hair stylist said:
And this is not a bragging soapbox, but i have done well with women all of my life, and joined this forum to help out, and after i got messages after almost every post that i had helped someone then i just could not help but continue posting.
No bragging soapbox indeed.
 

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Mystery Method is GREAT for newbies . Just like it is for pro's .
All the time , we use same method . Approach , show high value , build comfort , seduce. Every time we meet a women , we go through these phases.
This is MM .Canned lines are for guys that have 0 social skills .
If you were a guy who never talked to a girl , or never had flirty conversation , canned lines will help you .

I've been using MM successfully for almost all the time . Now i went on natural , but still use NEGs (to show the target i respect myself more than her ) , i still use FALSE TIME CONSTRAIN when approaching ( to show that im not going to stick up their ass for the rest of the night ) . Mystery Method is great if you analyze the concept of it . If you go deep on it . Canned lines are for noobs that cant put two words together in front of hot women . They will use them until they build social skills to turn to natural .

But even when youre natural , youll naturally go through these phases .
 
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