Leaving an employer off a resume?

[Trendsetter]

I got fired from a bank job

*story here*

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=168999

...and I'm applying for other jobs. Unfortunately since the last job I had required me to be licensed, any job in the financial industry is pretty much off limits for me but I'm applying at a software company and am wondering if it's best just to leave this job off the resume. I only worked there for 5 months and it isn't relevant enough for me to put it on the resume. I am wondering, however, if they will find out if I leave an omission on a resume. I already know if I'm fired, I'm pretty much gonna be denied in this economy. My options are putting the job on the resume and just explaining that the job wasn't a good fit for me which is why I quit or just leaving it off altogether, and if I leave it off altogether then explaining why I didn't work for 6 months. Any advice, thanks?

 

[Wiesman44]

I will help try and steer you in the right direction here.

You got fired from your job because you compromised your integrity. Yes, i read your story from your other thread, and yes your friend is partially to blame, but your bank was trusting you to have integrity and not look at bank accounts that are off limits. I worked in a bank for 18 months, I am aware of the rules.

You could have learned a good lesson from this experience that could help you grow in the game of life, but instead you are thinking about making the same mistake again. You want to compromise your integrity by lying on your resume and say 'the bank wasn't a good fit'

Perhaps you could take this experience at your bank as a positive, include it in your resume, and when you sit down to interview, explain the situation, admit it was partially your fault, and use your integrity to your advantage during the interview process.

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

I disagree with Wiesman.


Resumes are made to sell the individual.
They are not binding nor require full disclosure.


I often time leave jobs off a resume if it is irrelevant to the job I'm applying for.

Leaving a job off a resume has nothing to do with integrity.

It's simply making a good resume.

 

[DJDamage]

Leave the bank job off your resume.

Working only 5 months at a job without leaving it for another job raises questions.

They will want to get a reference from your bank job and when they hear from your supervisors that essentially you made an incompetent decision, they won't want to have anything to do with you.

 

[mpimpin]

I remember your story. You are probably best to leave it off. If the lapse in time period comes up say you've worked odd jobs (lawn care, handyman, w/e) while you've been looking for work. In this economy I'm sure it's what a lot of people are doing.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

GIVE IN to your human instinct: Advertise your soaring morality, then lie and omit with reckless abandon.

Seriously, just leave the bank off your resume. As long as your job doesn't require a U4 or U5, no one is ever going to know about it.

However, I also strongly advise you to investigate whether you can get your financial licensing straight, my practice is starting to snowball and I couldn't possibly see giving up on this business so quickly.

 

[Trendsetter]

Wiesman with all due respect I don't believe I was compromising the integrity of the bank by depositing $100 into someones account, at least not knowingly. Also I think it's time I started not being so honest. If I would have lied and said the guy gave me his acct #, I'd still have a job. I'm realizing sometimes I may have to tell a white lie just to get by. On two job applications I believe I wasn't hired because of the short employment history at the bank. I ended up leaving the bank off my resume and also built up some of my other jobs to boost myself up.

I'm just going to leave it off the resume, I also left it off the employment application. Hopefully it doesn't come up on the background screen and if it does, oh well, they wouldn't have hired me anyway. If anyone has any experience with leaving a job off a JOB APPLICATION (not a resume) and getting caught, please let me know.

Julius, as far as my u-5 is concerned, I think I have an arbitration on my hands. I'll tell you exactly what it says

"Terminated by affiliate bank, non securities related. Registered rep allegedly accessed and deposited money into a friends/clients bank account without the clients authorization"

WHAT A FUKING JOKE. Who do I have to go to to get this decision changed. He gave me his authorization lol. WOW. Just read it like 10 seconds ago. I may need a lawyer. HAHA.

The bank is either going to change that decision (I hope they dont) or I'm gonna settle out of court. HAHAHA. $$$. Im getting a lawyer TOMORROW

*edit* just got a lawyer tonight. WOW, I hope the bank doesn't change it's decision. I want at least $50k lol

 

[Wiesman44]

Wiesman with all due respect I don't believe I was compromising the integrity of the bank by depositing $100 into someones account, at least not knowingly. Also I think it's time I started not being so honest. If I would have lied and said the guy gave me his acct #, I'd still have a job. I'm realizing sometimes I may have to tell a white lie just to get by. On two job applications I believe I wasn't hired because of the short employment history at the bank. I ended up leaving the bank off my resume and also built up some of my other jobs to boost myself up.

I'm just going to leave it off the resume, I also left it off the employment application. Hopefully it doesn't come up on the background screen and if it does, oh well, they wouldn't have hired me anyway. If anyone has any experience with leaving a job off a JOB APPLICATION (not a resume) and getting caught, please let me know.

Julius, as far as my u-5 is concerned, I think I have an arbitration on my hands. I'll tell you exactly what it says

"Terminated by affiliate bank, non securities related. Registered rep allegedly accessed and deposited money into a friends/clients bank account without the clients authorization"

WHAT A FUKING JOKE. Who do I have to go to to get this decision changed. He gave me his authorization lol. WOW. Just read it like 10 seconds ago. I may need a lawyer. HAHA.

The bank is either going to change that decision (I hope they dont) or I'm gonna settle out of court. HAHAHA. $$$. Im getting a lawyer TOMORROW

*edit* just got a lawyer tonight. WOW, I hope the bank doesn't change it's decision. I want at least $50k lol

Dear Trendsetter, clearly you showed a lapse in judgement, now whether it was a compromise of integrity is an argument for another time. But I hope you learned something from this experience that you can take with you to better yourself, and I wish you luck on your job search.

 

[AAAgent]

i read the story when u first posted it and what you wrote earlier.

You're a retard and you are clearly wrong. You're mindset is horribly wrong as well. If you have a problem, take care of it yourself, don't rely on someone else. If you do rely on someone else, do it in a way where you don't screw yourself over. Borrow cash from someone else.

Should have asked him for his account number personally and had him say it from his mouth instead of just looking it up since that would have and did get you in trouble.

Leave it off you're resume and start over from scratch or explain what happened. The time you worked there isn't that long so the gap won't look as bad as a 5 year leave of absence.

 

[SBW]

A long time ago, I worked for a really crap employer, who paid peanuts, expected crazy hours and got me to do very significant work sorting out his major customers, computer system and act as as unpaid social worker to his large and very disfunctional family. My record in the firm was also 100% and the manager commented on my reliability and integrity on numerous occasions.

Then his unemployable yongest daughter got sacked from her umpteenth mcjob because she seldom turned-up, despite being able to appear like clockwork at any party she could get an invite to. Guess who got the heave-ho so she could go work for daddy. She had previously helped as my assistant when nobody else could put-up with her.

Anyway, I behaved with dignity and agreed to work my notice, until the night when he and his daughter drove-up and instead of facing me man to man, he sent her in to speak to me. Yes, she came-on like the right little haughty, spoiled, b*tch she was, whilst he sat, in sight of me, cowering behind the wheel of his Volvo. I'd had it!

I spent the rest of my shift changing all the passwords on the system and moving things about to make them difficult (but not impossible) to find again. I then shut everything down, locked the place up solid and posted the keys back firmly through the security shutters then walked away. The manager who held the only other set of master keys was on a fortnight's holiday at the time.

I then ignored my phone for the next week and yes, it rang a lot!

I also didn't get anything other than temp/day-to-day work for the next six months.

So eventually I decided to drop this firm off my resume and my next two applications got me first an interview with a world-famous firm and then a new job in a quite different and much more interesting field. I've not looked back since.

I wouldn't reccomend doing this today of course but at that time, there was no law here to cover it but a year or so later, that changed and I would have been facing a year or two inside for what I did.

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

A long time ago, I worked for a really crap employer, who paid peanuts, expected crazy hours and got me to do very significant work sorting out his major customers, computer system and act as as unpaid social worker to his large and very disfunctional family. My record in the firm was also 100% and the manager commented on my reliability and integrity on numerous occasions.

Then his unemployable yongest daughter got sacked from her umpteenth mcjob because she seldom turned-up, despite being able to appear like clockwork at any party she could get an invite to. Guess who got the heave-ho so she could go work for daddy. She had previously helped as my assistant when nobody else could put-up with her.

Anyway, I behaved with dignity and agreed to work my notice, until the night when he and his daughter drove-up and instead of facing me man to man, he sent her in to speak to me. Yes, she came-on like the right little haughty, spoiled, b*tch she was, whilst he sat, in sight of me, cowering behind the wheel of his Volvo. I'd had it!

I spent the rest of my shift changing all the passwords on the system and moving things about to make them difficult (but not impossible) to find again. I then shut everything down, locked the place up solid and posted the keys back firmly through the security shutters then walked away. The manager who held the only other set of master keys was on a fortnight's holiday at the time.

I then ignored my phone for the next week and yes, it rang a lot!

I also didn't get anything other than temp/day-to-day work for the next six months.

So eventually I decided to drop this firm off my resume and my next two applications got me first an interview with a world-famous firm and then a new job in a quite different and much more interesting field. I've not looked back since.

I wouldn't reccomend doing this today of course but at that time, there was no law here to cover it but a year or so later, that changed and I would have been facing a year or two inside for what I did.

Lol! Good story.
Just out of curiosity, what changed that would make it (and what?) illegal now?

 

[SBW]

Lol! Good story.
Just out of curiosity, what changed that would make it (and what?) illegal now?

It would be the locking them out of their own computer system - The UK brought in legislation to make that a criminal offence after a couple of high profile incidents.

 

[mrRuckus]

What do you need a lawyer for? It says allegedly. It doesn't say you did.

 

[Colossus]

I dont think you have a wrongful termination case if you violated policy. Even if your friend lied, you still should have gotten someone else to deposit the money or just given it to your friend directly to deposit himself.

In any case, its over now and your "friend" is a d0uchebag. It was a lapse in judgment on your part--never get financially involved with friends--but now you have to make the best of it.

In my opinion it's probably better to omit the job than explain why you got fired. You are competing with hundreds of other applicants. If they do a background check and it comes up, you're screwed, but that's the risk you take.

 

[Trendsetter]

What do you need a lawyer for? It says allegedly. It doesn't say you did.

The point is, it's not the reason I was terminated. I was told I was terminated for depositing money in a friends account. The bank had to add "without the clients authorization" to add salt to the wound. My 'friend' called the investigator before he interviewed me and told him he gave me authorization to access his account. Now he's trying to spin it around to his favor. "He gave you permission to deposit the money but not access his account to get his account number" lol, these guys are nuts, my 'friend' already agreed to give a statement to the lawyer stating he knew exactly what I was going to do before I did it. If their reason was good enough for terminating me then they shouldn't have had to add the "without the clients authorization."The language is damaging and it's public info, it's not like I was fired as a bank teller, I'm licensed by FINRA so every firm can see that language online when I apply for them. That's slander.

I've already contacted lawyers in regards to this matter.


About the wrongful termination part, I'm not fighting that, that's done and over with. I'm probably gonna get unemployment but the u5 is going to affect me being able to get jobs in the future.

 

[AAAgent]

i thought u need to be employed for atleast a full year and have to be laid off. if you get fired u don't get unemployment.

 

[bigjohnson]

Unless the previous job is relevant to the current prospective position I'd leave it off anyway. I lit and then extinguished forest fires the summer after I left high school but I never put that on any resume for work that was office type work.

It's sure not on my software developer resume.

If however the two positions are similar work, I'd think more carefully. In general employers will defer requests for references to HR, and generally HR will be very careful to merely confirm that you did in fact work there from X-> Y, without giving much more info.

If you worked for a tiny company without a real HR dept it's trickier, but if the bank is decent sized I doubt the specifics of your employment and termination would be shared. At most they MIGHT say you were terminated.

If you're outside the USA, ignore everything I said.

 

[Trendsetter]

i thought u need to be employed for atleast a full year and have to be laid off. if you get fired u don't get unemployment.

That's not true. I got laid off a job when I worked 6 months due to a merger and they base how much your unemployment is off how much you make. Also if you get fired, you don't get unemployment right away but you're allowed to dispute your firing and if it is not fair, you collect unemployment. Like on the unemployment dispute letter, it will ask if you were previously warned, if you knew the rule, is the rule consistent with each employee and other stuff like that, then they reach a determination.

Ya it's a decent sized bank I worked for, it's allegedly the #1 bank in the US. I'm not saying their name for legal reasons.