Learned a valuable lesson last night

[Droz88]

Long story short I have moved to a new city 3 weeks ago and am only staying for 4 more weeks for a short term work assignment. Found some roommates off of craigslist and they are cool. One of them moved out last week and a new roommate moved in, a very hot 28 year old girl. Me and the other roommate have gone out on weekends and asked her if she wanted to come with us and she did. Before we went out, me and him talked about one of us making a move on her and he told me he wasn't interested because he will be living there with her longer term and doesn't want things to get messy. So ok we went out. I was playing it cool and me and her were hitting it off very well for the first 10 minutes while we were alone because roommate dropped us off and went to find parking. I didn't escalate for a few reasons. 1. I was trying to play it cool. 2. I knew that regardless of what other roommate said that he'd be jealous if me and her hit it off and he kind of became a third wheel. Well our interaction fizzled out when he came back. To my surprise, HE started putting some moves on here and escalating and now I became the third wheel. She picked up on this and i'm sure subconciously labeled me as a wimp while he was the leader in her eyes. From then on, she and him were interacting with each other way more than they were with me and I felt it was irreversible, although towards the end of the night we all were drunk and were all talking. Roommate backed off from her and she proceeded to start talking to other dudes and even gave her number to 1-2 of them.

Lesson: Be a man. Dont' be a *****. Go for what you want and don't make apologies. I could of had this girl had I established right in the beginning of the night that I was interested in her. Instead I was taking into consideration roomate's feelings and wussed out. Roomate came and didn't give a **** about me and my feelings. I won't behave like this next time.

 

[Burroughs]

ANOTHER LESSON: your male roomate is a lying faggot

....keep an eye on him..possibly bailing out on rent, utilities etc...leaving you with bills

... manipulating cawkblock homo dudes like him tell you one thing and do another ....Par for the course in this day and age of skinny faggot dudes

Its a sad fact of life in 2013 how many men have become mental homos adopting female tendencies, double talk, lying, jealousy to get ahead

 

[Aristippus]

Rule #1- Don't date women you work with or women you live with.

There's always the possibility of unforseen circumstances in the future. What you think is a short stay could become a longer stay. Avoid drama by avoiding the instant live-in girlfriend after just a short time dating, which would happen by default if you date a roommate. That scenario is basically almost like opting for an instant marriage should you both decide you like each other.

No need to get jealous of the roommate. I think it is simply a situation where you were hoping she showed higher interest and she didn't. Remember, the idea is not to worry about women with low interest and find the ones with higher interest....Trust me, you dodged a bullet by avoiding a potential long-term relationship with a girl that lives under your roof.

 

[backbreaker]

i think the only real lesson you should have learned is that your female roommate is a cvm dumpster \\

28 year old female who doens't have her **** together to the point where she has to have roommates who talks to any and every guy who shows her attention, yeah your roomate is doing you a favor on this one.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Never trust a man who c0ck-blocks other men. Shows he is an insecure snake in the grass who doesn't have your back. He is competing with you instead of being your bro. Such men can't be trusted.

I've had a few friends like this who got "jealous" when I banged a hotter girl than they could pull and started acting "weird" and trying to "one up me". I lose ALL respect for men like this. They're not men, they're insecure little boys.

ANOTHER LESSON: your male roomate is a lying faggot

....keep an eye on him..possibly bailing out on rent, utilities etc...leaving you with bills

... manipulating cawkblock homo dudes like him tell you one thing and do another ....Par for the course in this day and age of skinny faggot dudes

Its a sad fact of life in 2013 how many men have become mental homos adopting female tendencies, double talk, lying, jealousy to get ahead

Spot on.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

i think the only real lesson you should have learned is that your female roommate is a cvm dumpster \\

28 year old female who doens't have her **** together to the point where she has to have roommates who talks to any and every guy who shows her attention, yeah your roomate is doing you a favor on this one.

^^This. ^^

Who knows she may end up "paying her portion of the rent" by sleeping with the other dude. (Don't be surprised by anything. They may not even tell you if it starts going on.) This situation doesn't sound good. This chump will "maybe" wind up in a "relationship" with her and you'll be paying more in some ways besides money or having problems due to him paying for both of them in the future.

Chick sounds like an AW and you don't know her. She is most likely very well aware her "roomies" want her and she'll hook up with one of the suckers who'll "feel bad" when she can't pay with cash and starts a "relationship" with someone she's living with. Your room mate sounds like a typical snake chump who'll do whatever to get some and it could eventually bite the OP in the azz in the future. I'd find other room mates A.S.A.P.

From reading the O.P's take this situation sounds like it's not going to turn out well especially if you all do wind up living together.

ANOTHER LESSON: your male roomate is a lying faggot

....keep an eye on him..possibly bailing out on rent, utilities etc...leaving you with bills

... manipulating cawkblock homo dudes like him tell you one thing and do another ....Par for the course in this day and age of skinny faggot dudes

Its a sad fact of life in 2013 how many men have become mental homos adopting female tendencies, double talk, lying, jealousy to get ahead

^^THIS^^

Rule #1- Don't date women you work with or women you live with.

There's always the possibility of unforseen circumstances in the future. What you think is a short stay could become a longer stay. Avoid drama by avoiding the instant live-in girlfriend after just a short time dating, which would happen by default if you date a roommate. That scenario is basically almost like opting for an instant marriage should you both decide you like each other.

No need to get jealous of the roommate. I think it is simply a situation where you were hoping she showed higher interest and she didn't. Remember, the idea is not to worry about women with low interest and find the ones with higher interest....Trust me, you dodged a bullet by avoiding a potential long-term relationship with a girl that lives under your roof.

^^^And THIS^^^

 

[zekko]

Chick sounds like an AW and you don't know her

I'd say it sounds like a red flag when a woman wants to be roommates with two men.

But to the OP: Did your male roommate actually do anything? You said he backed off of her. Are you just annoyed that he was better at flirting with her than you were, or was he actually making out with her, feeling her up, what?

 

[Colossus]

Never trust a man who c0ck-blocks other men. Shows he is an insecure snake in the grass who doesn't have your back. He is competing with you instead of being your bro. Such men can't be trusted.

Agreed. These men are scavengers and vultures and should be treated as such---ruthlessly. I put guys who prey on married and attached women in the same category. Scavengers skulking around someone else's kill.

 

[LMFAO]

You need to go in there and stop being a pusssy. What's the worst that can happen that she'll say no and you back off. At the same time there are plenty more women out there, and younger ones. She's 28 and in her last years of attention seeking and c*ck teasing, give her a few years and she'll go from being worth a million dollars to being worth around the same as a mars bar. Most women peak by 20 and go downhill fast in their 20s. She knows it, you know it. It's her clock which is ticking at ten times your clock speed so for all the men out there stop being so desperate and pusssy whipped on these older b*tches with plummeting value.

Also your room mate is not your friend but just another desperate prick. He acted like a complete c*nt to you and you should call him out for it. Otherwise he'd do it to you again and think he can just walk over you on other things as well. Go to his room and tell him that he's a prick.

 

[Droz88]

Thank you for the responses.

The guy roommate wasn't making out with her, he was just talking to her way more than talking to me and was doing some flirting. Meanwhile, I was being very passive trying to play it cool so maybe it wasn't him so much as it was me. They guy is actually pretty cool I think he was just thinking with his little head like most men do when there's an attractive female around. Towards the end of the night I asked him if he just wants me to back off completely because she seemed to be digging him a lot and I told him he was flirting with her. At that point he seemed to realize what he was doing and then backed off. I started to flirt with her again after that and she was enjoying it and grabbing my arm and stuff. He did some AFC moves the next day inviting her out once more and tried forcing excess conversation with her while I really didn't say **** to her.

As for the female roommate, she is also pretty cool just a typical hot girl who is an AW; kind of selfish too as me and him switched off buying rounds of drinks while she only bought herself drinks. Not sure if she's selfish or just broke.

I would totally bang this chick as I am only living here for 3 more weeks and then moving across the country. Now that we are living in the same house and are sober most of the time we all kind of hang out in our rooms and just say hi/what's up/bye. Not sure where I stand or how to proceed.

 

[origin138]

i think the only real lesson you should have learned is that your female roommate is a cvm dumpster \\

28 year old female who doens't have her **** together to the point where she has to have roommates who talks to any and every guy who shows her attention, yeah your roomate is doing you a favor on this one.

Nailed it.

Another Lesson: Don't hang out with sh!tty people who aren't worth your time.

 

[backbreaker]

Thank you for the responses.

The guy roommate wasn't making out with her, he was just talking to her way more than talking to me and was doing some flirting. Meanwhile, I was being very passive trying to play it cool so maybe it wasn't him so much as it was me. They guy is actually pretty cool I think he was just thinking with his little head like most men do when there's an attractive female around. Towards the end of the night I asked him if he just wants me to back off completely because she seemed to be digging him a lot and I told him he was flirting with her. At that point he seemed to realize what he was doing and then backed off. I started to flirt with her again after that and she was enjoying it and grabbing my arm and stuff. He did some AFC moves the next day inviting her out once more and tried forcing excess conversation with her while I really didn't say **** to her.

As for the female roommate, she is also pretty cool just a typical hot girl who is an AW; kind of selfish too as me and him switched off buying rounds of drinks while she only bought herself drinks. Not sure if she's selfish or just broke.

I would totally bang this chick as I am only living here for 3 more weeks and then moving across the country. Now that we are living in the same house and are sober most of the time we all kind of hang out in our rooms and just say hi/what's up/bye. Not sure where I stand or how to proceed.

the funny thing is, is that if you told her exactly that.. hey girl, look here's the deal... i want to **** you lol. i'm going to be here for just 3 weeks so I think we should ****. I think it would be in your best interest to just let me get a hotel room, get some drinks and **** your brains out.

I bet 20 bucks she'd be down. that's the type of chick she is.
You have to be direct and blunt with sluts. You can't beat around the bush with a hoe.

 

[BeDJ]

You can't beat around the bush with a hoe.

I really really want to believe this masterful pun was intended.

 

[Warrior74]

ANOTHER LESSON: your male roomate is a lying faggot

....keep an eye on him..possibly bailing out on rent, utilities etc...leaving you with bills

... manipulating cawkblock homo dudes like him tell you one thing and do another ....Par for the course in this day and age of skinny faggot dudes

Its a sad fact of life in 2013 how many men have become mental homos adopting female tendencies, double talk, lying, jealousy to get ahead

Gotta agree with this. I would sit back with a smirk on my face around both of them and just watch and laugh and spend my time chasing other broads. Amused mastery at the fvcking losers.

 

[Droz88]

the funny thing is, is that if you told her exactly that.. hey girl, look here's the deal... i want to **** you lol. i'm going to be here for just 3 weeks so I think we should ****. I think it would be in your best interest to just let me get a hotel room, get some drinks and **** your brains out.

I bet 20 bucks she'd be down. that's the type of chick she is.
You have to be direct and blunt with sluts. You can't beat around the bush with a hoe.

Hahaha. I've said some **** to women that I thought would never fly and was surprised by some reactions i've gotten. This however is just pure ballsy....i'd feel really out of my comfort zone saying something like that to her if she didn't want it and had to live with me.

I think it would be worth a shot if we didn't live together but that's very threatening to hear from someone you just met and have to live with. It's not like at work where she can report me and I'd get fired...her only recourse would be to move out if she felt too uncomfortable and i'd be the ultimate douchebag if I did that to her.

I do admit though, it might work but just way too indecent.

 

[backbreaker]

Hahaha. I've said some **** to women that I thought would never fly and was surprised by some reactions i've gotten. This however is just pure ballsy....i'd feel really out of my comfort zone saying something like that to her if she didn't want it and had to live with me.

I think it would be worth a shot if we didn't live together but that's very threatening to hear from someone you just met and have to live with. It's not like at work where she can report me and I'd get fired...her only recourse would be to move out if she felt too uncomfortable and i'd be the ultimate douchebag if I did that to her.

I do admit though, it might work but just way too indecent.

stop thinking like a chump / AFC (not calling you a chump but your thought process is like one right now)

it WILL work beucase she's a hoe lol. Why are you so hell bent on treating a girl like a good girl when everything she does is telling you she wants you to treat her like a hoe. she is begging for you to treat her like a hoe and you won't do it.

A girl who goes around and flirts with a bunch of guys / flirts with roommates off and on = "I want a man to get me wet and **** my brains out"

this is the kinda chick that lives, breathes for a man to **** her brains out. lol it's why she's 28 years old and doesn't have her **** together. Because her life is revolved most likely around chasing guys who will treat her like the hoe she is.

And here you are trying to treat her like a normal woman and **** lol. Like she is LTR material or like she has "feelings" and real emotions. This girl has one emotion. hoe. that's the only emotion she has. She's a slut and she probably likes being a slut.

I'm a firm believer in screening for women I'm a busy dude and I don';t have time for drama so women like this i would not give the time of day beucase that's what she lives for; drama. But if I decided that hey this chick I have to **** her, I'll be damned if i came at her with some bull**** about caring about her living situation or about how she might feel if I did this or that or how awkard she might feel, once I determine that you are a hoe i"m going to treat you exactly like that.

Beucase I assure you one thing, she doesn't give a **** about any of that. Again if this were the girl who gave a **** about stuff like, being respectful of others, living for the future and **** like that, she wouldn't be 28, smoking hot and living with you paying rent she'd have some dude locked down if she was that hot. she doesn't. the fact that she is that hot and 28 and flirts with any and every guy she sees tells me everything In eed to know to make a diagnoses on how to treat her. like a good old fashion tory lane hoe lol.

this is the chick who wants drama. she wants the ups and the downs she wants you to come at her and be naughty. This is the woman who goes to see her little brother at a high school basketball game and gives a guy a blow job in the car during half time she just m et up there. this is that chick to the letter.

 

[Droz88]

stop thinking like a chump / AFC (not calling you a chump but your thought process is like one right now)

it WILL work beucase she's a hoe lol. Why are you so hell bent on treating a girl like a good girl when everything she does is telling you she wants you to treat her like a hoe. she is begging for you to treat her like a hoe and you won't do it.

A girl who goes around and flirts with a bunch of guys / flirts with roommates off and on = "I want a man to get me wet and **** my brains out"

this is the kinda chick that lives, breathes for a man to **** her brains out. lol it's why she's 28 years old and doesn't have her **** together. Because her life is revolved most likely around chasing guys who will treat her like the hoe she is.

And here you are trying to treat her like a normal woman and **** lol. Like she is LTR material or like she has "feelings" and real emotions. This girl has one emotion. hoe. that's the only emotion she has. She's a slut and she probably likes being a slut.

I'm a firm believer in screening for women I'm a busy dude and I don';t have time for drama so women like this i would not give the time of day beucase that's what she lives for; drama. But if I decided that hey this chick I have to **** her, I'll be damned if i came at her with some bull**** about caring about her living situation or about how she might feel if I did this or that or how awkard she might feel, once I determine that you are a hoe i"m going to treat you exactly like that.

Beucase I assure you one thing, she doesn't give a **** about any of that. Again if this were the girl who gave a **** about stuff like, being respectful of others, living for the future and **** like that, she wouldn't be 28, smoking hot and living with you paying rent she'd have some dude locked down if she was that hot. she doesn't. the fact that she is that hot and 28 and flirts with any and every guy she sees tells me everything In eed to know to make a diagnoses on how to treat her. like a good old fashion tory lane hoe lol.

this is the chick who wants drama. she wants the ups and the downs she wants you to come at her and be naughty. This is the woman who goes to see her little brother at a high school basketball game and gives a guy a blow job in the car during half time she just m et up there. this is that chick to the letter.

Not saying your wrong....but you determined all that from a few paragraphs I wrote about her? I admit I checked her out on facebook and she doesn't have many pictures of herlself being a drunk or with too many different dudes. In fact many are with her being with her family. Male roommate told me that she was engaged to some chiropractor so she apparently did at least have a guy tied down for a while. She does have a bachelors degree in Art (i know, easy/liberal major) and now she's going to chiropractor school herself. It's a slippery slope arguement to just hear a few things and rush to a definite generalization about her character. If you guys know of any simple/subtle way I can determine if she's dtf then I'll test her out and report back.

Believe me, I wish I had the guts to go up to her and say that and risk making everything super awkward but i don't cause i'm not convinced it'll work. Believe me, she's got a very phat ass and slim body so yeah i wish.

Edit: Ok well she just threw a huge temper tantrum. I think it was about something her dad said to her. Wow her mom was here and looked like she was really sick of her daughter's sh1t. Umm yeah so i'm gonna go ahead conclude that she's still immature.

...at the same time it's starting to hit me that you guys are right about her being a total hoe....damn now I just gotta figure out a way to approach her and escalate to sex in way that's boss but also in a style i'm comfortable with. I see what you were saying about thinking like a chump too. It's like I suddenly see the difference between how a chump thinks and how a smart experienced man thinks.

 

[Burroughs]

If you guys know of any simple/subtle way I can determine if she's dtf then I'll test her out and report back.

Believe me, I wish I had the guts to go up to her and say that and risk making everything super awkward but i don't cause i'm not convinced it'll work. Believe me, she's got a very phat ass and slim body so yeah i wish.

Jerk off on her face at breakfast and if she slurps it up....she's down

 

[Warrior74]

You do know what hoes do when they start fvcking dudes they live with right?

 

[Droz88]

You do know what hoes do when they start fvcking dudes they live with right?

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