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LDRs. Making her want you more

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Alot of my recent posts have been about LDRs, and for good reason. There doesn't seem to be much information out there about LDRs and when there is it seems to be too vague. Anywho, let me get to my question.

Things are going well in my view with my LDR girl (we've been going out for over a month now), but she doesn't do a few things I want her to. From my past experience (never been in a LDR so things might be different), girls usually get cutesy by now. They start calling you "papa bear", "sweetie", etc. basically girly stuff to know they like you/want you.

She's had sex, but I'm her first boyfriend so I'm thinking her lack of dating experience is making her too shy to express herself more. I want her to do it more though.

Should I stop trying to open her up by calling her cutesy little nick names (I don't do it all the time, I make sure to tease her for what she should be teased for :moon: )? I'm thinking if I push her away a bit she'll start to pull.

Then again, I'm no Bill Nye when it comes to LDRs.
 

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LDR, meaning you aren't near her at all.
or do you mean a LTR..?

Assuming you mean LDR, you should have set before you left that you are an awesome guy that likes to have fun, but if you dont' have that, TEASE!!! I can't stress that enough, ask her how her day went, usually they say nothing, and you OMG on the nothing....tell a little story about your day, force her to talk!

=), and secrets such as when are you coming back withheld from girls...drive them nuts! ;)
 

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Thing is, she's probably about a 5 maybe a 6 on the looks scale, so I try to treat her a bit nicer than I would a very hot girl. Doesn't seem to be working.
 

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Recently she started talking about a bunch of new friends she's met. One of these guys she met is Eli. I don't have him on my friends on facebook so I don't know what she said back, but it seems like he's getting a little flirtatious.


"you know what....i will just for you. at least i dont like some young boy. im sure you do so dont lie.
yea ill get you thoes cds tomorrow."

Probably making a deal out of nothing, but she brings up his name the most of her guy friends.

"Eli wants to be a record producer", "Eli wants to own a record label", blah blah blah.
 

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I was in an LDLTR for over a year with a success.

Some simple rules:
1.) be completely honest with each other
2.) tell a couple stories to her. Even if you had a sh!tty day tell her a story that was awesome that you heard.
3.) Sometimes, when we did not have much to talk about, we would go online and talk about something that we found online. Postsecret.com is a pretty cool website.
4.) keep having a social life
5.) be strict, yet uncontrolling. My girl that I was with in the beginning was acting like she wanted out. I told her to either get out or stay with me because I won't take her ****. She stayed.
6.) Be talkative. Expect to carry on the convo from time to time.
7.) Make sure that you have an exit strategy. (not leaving her). A ideatime that you will end the LDR and make it to a LTR.
8.) Have fun.

I was in a LDLTR for a year and trust me. It can make for a rewarding experience, but prepare for the downsides of it.

comic_relief
 

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Thanks for the update.

If you're in a relationship and it's long distance is it wise to go to movies with girls alone? Last night I went to the show with one of my friends (girl), my girlfriend knows about it, and later one of our common friends asked me about it because she told her about it. So I know my GF was talking to other girls about it.
 

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I never did go to a movie with a girl alone during my LDLTR. I planned on going to a movie with a really good female friend and she got pissy about it.

too much strain on the relationship.

She went with other men and it caused too much drama between the two of us (we had our going at it), but eventually she fell for me entirely.

comic_relief
 

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Comic that's where our girls differ a bit.

I think I'm my GF's 1st or 2nd boyfriend and I get the feeling she's trying her best to not appear clingy (hence why she's sorta distant lately), much like this is my first LDR and I'm trying my best to get her as close as possible.

I don't know why, but I'm still a bit saddened she's acting this way. We are long distance, and I won't see her until December. We both recognize this, so you'd think she'd open up a bit and perhaps get a little closer instead of acting non-chalant (which I have been doing myself, but started trying to get closer a few weeks ago). It's going to be rough doing this and I believe the less we act challenging to each other the better it will be.

I just don't know how to go about getting her to be more open. At the beginning of the relationship she was awesome, then she went to another state for college and she was still open and fun, but when she moved out of her place and moved into the dorms she changed. She's always got a few girlfriends over watching TV, or I'm busy, etc. just never gets sexual anymore.

I'm thinking about having a friend of mine who happens to be a friend of hers whom I trust to ask my girlfriend what she thinks about the relationship and where it's going. I could ask myself, but I don't know if that'd be wise, seeing I think she may change her answer to please me.
 

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She's being *****y today, not liking this ****. I'm thinking about ending it.
 

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If she's being b****y then end it. Unless both of you are always good to eachother it won't work coz one of you'll end up cheating.
 

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Alright guys here's my plan. I'm going to talk to her on the phone and ask her where she thinks this relationship is going.

I'm doing this because I want to portray to her the image that I'm on the verge of moving on if she doesn't shape up. I'm starting to think she's getting disinterested anywho so I'm hoping she'll be truthful and we'll work from there.
 

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Forgot to ask, any other advisable actions/advice before I go ahead?
 

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Soniq tell me how you would word it then? She isn't acting like she was before/immediately after she left, and I don't like this constant sarcasm **** we do back and forth. How would I word that to her?
 

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Alright, next time she pulls some **** I don't like I'll let it rip.
 

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itishe said:
Alright, next time she pulls some **** I don't like I'll let it rip.
alright, don't "let it rip." Just be firm and straight shooting. Otherwise you will sound like an a-hole.

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Something tells me I'm going to lose her. She brings up this Eli guy in about every phone conversation, "oh Eli was over and we hung out a little", or she'll start randomly reading a comment or two he left on her Facebook page along with other ones.

He has a girlfriend, but the fact they hang out almost every day and the amount of messages he leaves on her Facebook is leaving me worried. Maybe they're just friends and he's one of those "guy girlfriends", but my gut wrenches when I hear his name.
 

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comic_relief said:
I was in an LDLTR for over a year with a success.

Some simple rules:
1.) be completely honest with each other
2.) tell a couple stories to her. Even if you had a sh!tty day tell her a story that was awesome that you heard.
3.) Sometimes, when we did not have much to talk about, we would go online and talk about something that we found online. Postsecret.com is a pretty cool website.
4.) keep having a social life
5.) be strict, yet uncontrolling. My girl that I was with in the beginning was acting like she wanted out. I told her to either get out or stay with me because I won't take her ****. She stayed.
6.) Be talkative. Expect to carry on the convo from time to time.
7.) Make sure that you have an exit strategy. (not leaving her). A ideatime that you will end the LDR and make it to a LTR.
8.) Have fun.

I was in a LDLTR for a year and trust me. It can make for a rewarding experience, but prepare for the downsides of it.

comic_relief
I did your number 5 last night. She told me she wants to stay with me.
 

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I remember towards the end of the phone conversation, she said that it might be wierd to talk to each other from now on. I said that this conversation will probably make the relationship stronger to be positive.

I did talk to her again until tonight on the internet, the conversation went so-so, mainly she told me how she's been having a bad day. I told her if she's in the mood I'll give her a call tonight (mainly because I don't want to call and hear her ***** about her day). I'm thinking it'd be best if I didn't and just talked to her tomorrow, no?
 

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Guys I don't know what to do anymore.

Before I called her the other night, I talked to a friend of hers. The friend told me that my GF wanted me to break it off because she didn't want to do it (maybe to appear like the victim), and that she was starting to like another guy up there but she still liked me.

I called my GF that same night, and asked her if she wanted to keep it going. She began to ask me why I wanted to break it off, I told her that I wanted to still go out with her, but I don't want to stick around with a girl who isn't interested anymore. She told me she was still interested and wanted to keep going out. I asked her about what her/my friend said, and she said that she said nothing anything remotely close to that.

I don't know what the hell to do with this ****.
 

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ITISHE, I gave this back to you in August, it's time to read it again:

There is no such thing as an LDR, because you have no relationship. An LDR simply does not meet the criteria necessary for it to be considered a relationship. There is no reciprocity of anything more than words passing over a phone line or an IM text. Understand me here – you have no relationship. You have self-assumed accountability, self-assumed liability and internalized responsibilities to be loyal to this person, to fidelity to this idealization, and dropping what everyone outside of your LDR will regularly tell you is insanity, is a personal affront and anathema to this stupid and most insidious form of ONEitis.

LDRs are the most easily identifiable form of ONEitis and it would be laughable if it weren't so damaging to a guy's life progression. The LDR man would sacrifice years of his life in this pitiable effort to pursue his 'soulmate' across the planet or even a hundred miles away. The very thought of refuting the idea that an LDR can work is equal to denying his belief this stupid, fantasized ONEitis fueled idealization that he's swallowed for the better part of his life. It’s easy to criticize an LDR in the terms of questioning either party's earnestness and fidelity in entertaining an LDR and this is usually the tact that most people giving advice on LDRs follow. One or both parties are or will 'cheat' on the other over the course of time, its true, but LDRs are far more telling of a mentality that results in much more damaging consequences as a result of deeply conditioned self-expectations and fears.

I can't begin to list the number of otherwise intelligent and ambitious men I’ve known who've drastically altered the course of their lives to follow their ONE. Men who've changed their majors in college, who've selected or switched universities, men who've applied for jobs in states they would never have considered, accepted jobs that are sub-standard to their ambitions or qualifications, men who've renounced former religions and men who've moved across the planet all in an effort to better accommodate an idealized woman with whom they've played pseudo-boyfriend over the course of an LDR only to find that she wasn't the person they thought she was and were depressive over the gravity that their decisions played in their lives.

An LDR is akin to a LJBF, but writ large and festering in a man's life. You play surrogate boyfriend, voluntarily accepting and internalizing all of the responsibilities and accountabilities of being a woman's exclusive, monogamous partner with no expectation of reciprocating intimacy or sexuality. It is the ideal situation for a woman in the same manner a Booty Call is for a man - all sex with no expectations of monogamy or commitment. However an LDR is worse than a LJBF arrangement since it pervasively locks a man into a success or failure mentality with regards to the relationship actually being legitimate. Afterall, she's agreed to be his girlfriend (from miles away) and if he's the one to falter it's his lack of perseverance in this silly ONEitis ego-investment that dooms them. Once the LDR inevitably ends he's the one left with the self-doubt, he's the one beating himself up over wasting time, money and effort and he's the one feeling guilty whether he or she is the 'cheater'.

An LDR is like having an invisible friend with whom you're constantly considering the course of your actions with. Consider the personal, romantic, familial, educational, ambition-wise, business-wise, personally maturity and growth opportunities that you've limited yourself from or never had a chance to experience because of this invisible friend. When you finally divorce yourself from this invisible friend, will it have all been worth it? Guys cling to LDRs because they've yet to learn, in POOK's inimitable words, that Rejection is better than Regret. AFCs will nurse along an LDR for years because it seems the better option when compared with actually going out and meeting new women who are potential rejection. They think its better to stick with the 'sure thing' than risk possible rejection, but it's the long term regret that is the inevitable result of an LDR that is life damaging. Nothing reeks of desperation or verifies a lack of confidence more than a guy who self-righteously proclaims he's in an LDR. Women see you coming a mile off, because you are a guy without options. In fact the only reason a man entertains an LDR is due to a lack of options. If you had more plates spinning an LDR would never look like a good idea. And finally, I'm sure I'll see the "not in my case" defense posted here about how you actually DO see your invisible friend once every 4 or six months. To this I'll say again, what opportunities are you censoring yourself from experiencing by playing house with a woman you only see this often? Do you honestly think you're the exception to the rule? I'm sure you do.


It's now October 5th, do you see what I was driving at back then?
 

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