Lay report

[Zarky]

So I went out on a first date with a chick last night. 8 body, would be 9 but kind of small tits. Fantastic ass, great tan, in tight shape, works out every day. 6 face, almost a 7. Combined rating of 7 I'd say. Very tall and super thin. About as tall as me, in fact. I'm 5'8

We went to a wine bar and ordered a couple of glasses of wine, then a whole bottle of wine. Got plastered. Ended up making out in the wine bar. Split the check. Walked down on the beach for awhile. Then we started to walk back and I was pulling her toward my place. She said, "But my car's that way." I just kept pulling her toward my place. (Good reason to go on first dates near your home.)

So we got to my place and she goes, "Just so you know, I'm not sleeping with you." I say, "I could have told you that." She got kind of annoyed at that statement. I gave her another drink. It was kind of hot in my place so I went into my bedroom to change into a short-sleeved shirt. She follows me in and says, "I'm not taking off my clothes," and then hops into the bed. So we make out for awhile but I'm not getting her top off. I realize that she's kind of shy about her tits because they're small. Make that really shy. So I go for her jeans and there's no resistance there.

So I whip off her jeans and all my clothes and she says, "I'm not having sex with you," and I say "Of course you're not." Then she starts going down on me, and I finally get her top off. She goes, "I only have sex with condoms on," so I got a condom and we started screwing. After awhile she goes, "I only have sex without condoms when I'm in a relationship.. I hate condoms." So I whip the condom off and we go bareback for awhile.

Then she says, "You can't come inside me," and when I'm just about to come she pulls me out and I come on her stomach, the only time she actually followed through with what she said she was going to LOL.

Then we cuddled for awhile, yeah I do that, then she took off. She was in like super cuddle mode with her long arms and legs completely wrapped around me while she was dozing off before she left. I have a feeling she may be somewhat BPD, she seemed very LSE and is quite clingy. I don't mind that though, better than the opposite. And she kept asking me if I was into anal sex, which I'm not. So this girl may be interesting and I think I'll keep her around. Really bizarre attitude toward sex though... hope it's not like that every time, sometimes I like a girl who is good to go without all the BS.

 

[Wilko]

Cool man, great to hear some positive stuff. Simple enough report but you can read between the lines and see how it came together, it definitely wasn't any accident, Joe average probably couldn't have pulled that off.

I remember one girl I was with could only cvm through some sort of anal + cl!t, just saying Zarky, be a team player, lol.

 

[Zarky]

maybe this one will finally talk me into it Just seems so... unclean.

 

[lifeislearning]

Ah, the standard "I don't, I won't" speech that somehow makes sex with you OK in her mind. I'm a big fan of this one. And all the guys that believe it.

 

[Zarky]

It is strange, and even stranger that it happens so often. I don't understand the mental leaps required for it. I don't understand its purpose I guess. Maybe it just calms them down in that moment.. their little mental wheels get spinning all out of control and saying that just allows them to take a breath or something.

 

[Kailex]

Good report.

They just do it so they can clear themselves of mental responsibility. It's not that they are slvts, its that you insisted "against their will". Messed up? Yes. But it's the ability to read the situation that renders us in a different light than most AFC's.

The common AFC would have heard her saying "My car is this way" and said, "Oh, okay."

The other kind of AFC would have just taken her to the apartment and then once she repeated again that there was no sex to be involved... he would have just cuddled with her all night and then post on the forums: What happened!? What's her IL!?

Nicely done, Zarky.

 

[Scaramouche]

Well Done Zarky,
The key to all this was having an agenda and dating close to your pad.

 

[Warrior74]

When I first read this I thought it was some sort of joke. Now that I see that it's real congrats on posting something decent for once. Hahahaha.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I am happy to hear that worked out for you for sure. I myself have had an interesting situation and wonder if there is any insight a person could offer:

Stayed at a woman's house (she's 32, I'm 26), she answered the door in her underwear and a loose fitting top, as I asked to crawl up in her loft, she says "hell no", almost b!tchy in that way, but how could a woman not understand that when we went to a concert together, and then I invite myself up, and she answers in her underwear, that this is sending me mixed signals, especially with a "hell no"...what did I do wrong?

My theory is I didn't escalate, or I was too AFCish and didn't capitalize on what was in front of me. Why does a woman say things and act completely differently? If I had really pursued her, because she stood there talking to me for 30 minutes in her underwear, I maybe could have gotten somewhere. But what am I supposed to do? Walk up to her and grab her hand and lead her to the loft?

...or maybe that is exactly it..
anyways, glad to see someone pulled through successfully.

 

[Zarky]

yeah, sounds like you talked too much and did too little. When you gain confidence you will know better and better what to do. There's definitely an art to it. Basically you have to maintain control of the situation at every turn, both in speech and in physicality. IMHO the "naturals" are those people who learned how to control social interactions from a very early age for whatever reason. Women are trained early on to try to control people, while men are usually trained to control inanimate objects like tools, machinery, etc. You need to have the desire and learn the skills of controlling women.

So with that lay my official 'success' record for online dating stands at about 1%. That is, one girl to screw for every 100 initial emails I send out. So guys who complain about online dating, saying, "Oh I sent out 10 emails and didn't get anything," well... start sending out 10 a day and see where it lands you.