denverfan110
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Hello,
I'm relatively new to these forums and certainly haven't yet progressed my game enough to be considered a noteworthy DJ but I figured I'd share my experience as an American guy in a foreign country, especially since this particular lay is noteworthy in area of "no" not always meaning "no" (and judging a girl by her actions not her words, I 'spose).
Quick background on me: 20 year old caucasian male. Would say I have fairly good looks. Was more of a relationship type guy in highschool so just now starting to discover the idea of spinning plates.
Anyway rewind to last week. Visiting moscow with some friends (studying abroad for the semester somewhere else in Europe so the trip was not too difficult – except the visa process that is), and we hit the bars on our last night there.
Almost immediately found a HB8 worth talking to and approached with the classic "you come here often" opener (which works significantly better in foreign countries because they can tell you're foreign and, surprise, they always ask back if you do – which leads into telling them where you're from and playing the exotic card). She asks me if I want to get a drink (IOI) to which I naturally oblige.
Buy her the first one, shot of vodka (when in Russia...). Made fun of her for not finishing the entire thing (incredibly understandable as the shot glasses in Russia are 1.7 times the size of American ones...I almost struggled myself). Decent conversation ensues. Looks interested. Pulled a smooth kino move that I read about from another poster (cant remember who) on sosuave just the other week, and pulled her hair away from her ear to make a comment about her earing. Very receptive to that (thank you sosuave).
Jokingly (but not so jokingly) suggested she buy the next round since I was a guest in her country. To my amazement she laughs and obliges. After this round I buy the next and at this point she asks if I want to go outside to get some fresh air. I oblige.
Now we're outside and its freezing (Russia in october who knew) so I suggested that we hug to stay warm. Pretended to go for the hug with my outstretched arms but then just placed my hands on her face (all passionate like) and went for the kiss. Success! Had a quick makeout sesh there before it was too cold and we had to go back inside. However, during that sesh she did something very important: for a split second she moved my head away and whispered in my ear: I love Men who dominate me.
Now thank god I was feeling pretty good from the alcohol or else I would have probably lost my sh1t had I been sober. I've been with a few freaky girls before this but the the kinkiest thing I could say I had done before that night in my 20 years of existence was light choking (which I wasn't very good at and even comfortable with at the time). Thought that wasn't the time or place to worry about it so I just stored the content into the back of my head and proceeded with the night.
Fast-forward 3 hours of non-important material (went back got more drinks, went to a different club got more drinks, danced, asked her to come back to my place, got a cab back to the hotel) and we're back in my room hooking up on my bed. Everything's goin swell until I start going for her lower half with foreplay. Shes not having it. The "I cant tonight" and "I just met you" and "Im scared bullsh1t (shes 19 by the way)."
I've been in this situation before and I've attempted to push through it but, in previous situations, this ended poorly for me (just pissed her off even more to the point where I ended up just kicking her out of my house cuz nothing was gonna happen). All of a sudden it was looking like typic AFC denverfan all over again, buying drinks and a cab ride home just to not get the lay. As all sorts of panicked thoughts began to rush through my head, one valuable piece of information resurfaced: "I like guys who dominate me."
That's when I realized I had been playing this all wrong. She had expressly told me in advance she wanted an alpha to take charge and force her into submission. She was into that sh1t and wanted to see if I could fit the mold. I had been going about foreplay in the typical passionate way that I was accustomed to doing it – with previous girlfriends who enjoyed being treated like goddesses during foreplay and liked being held sensually. So, knowing I would never see this chick ever again after that night (I was leaving Russia the next day), I made an executive decision to be the jerk sosuave always talks about and just take her for myself (which is pretty uncharacteristic of me).
I immediately grabbed her neck (not chocking but just holding her head still) and I told her "look at my fvcking face." She was stunned, as I'd imagine anyone would be after such a mood swing during foreplay. I repeated, "look at my fvcking face you slut." Internally I was sh1tting my pants (I have never EVER done something like this before - not even close). Externally I must have appeared convincing cuz she stopped squirming from my advances and looked me right in the eyes. Without breaking my gaze I followed with, "I'm going to give you a type of pleasure you've never experience before" to which I followed with an aggressive quick hicky on her neck with a solid bite afterwards. Pulling back to lock eyes with her I again began to reach for her pants and she initially started squirming again and try to move away at which point I once again brought her back into my realm of focus: "Stop squirming. Looking me in the fvcking face." The cycle repeated itself until, on the third time, she finally let out with a small whimper: "take off my cloths."
Boom. Green light. What's funny is that immediately after she said that she tried to redact her statement verbatim with, "holy sh1t what am I saying." I had pulled her into my flow and I think even she was surprised she was being seduced at this point (probably as much as I was that I had gone so far out of my comfort zone).
Ripped off all her cloths as aggressively as possible and proceed to have, by far, the wildest and craziest sex of my life. Chocked her out aggressively and left a print on her a$$ probably lasting until next month. Anytime I stopped to take a breather or change positions I would get the: "please don't stop I want you so inside me so badly." – Pretty different tune than what you were saying just 10 minutes ago huh?
In return she scratched the SH1T out of my back any chance she got but I wasn't about to tell her to go easy on me when I was giving it to her in way harder a fashion. Small price to pay for one of the best lays and learning experience of my life.
I certainly wouldn't recommend trying this on just any random girl, especially someone you're not close with (as it can end horribly horribly wrong I'd imagine, calling rape being the most likely scenario). This girl was just incredibly kinky and into aggressive sh1t. Personally, I never would have tried it if she didn't tell me earlier she wanted to be dominated.
Overall, though, it has certainly cemented the idea in my head that some women indeed want to be taken. This sh1t test, though an aggressive one, was ruling out any beta who could not live up to the sexual experience she wanted.
We're friends on facebook. The next day she private messaged me: "I will miss you my American Dream."
I'm relatively new to these forums and certainly haven't yet progressed my game enough to be considered a noteworthy DJ but I figured I'd share my experience as an American guy in a foreign country, especially since this particular lay is noteworthy in area of "no" not always meaning "no" (and judging a girl by her actions not her words, I 'spose).
Quick background on me: 20 year old caucasian male. Would say I have fairly good looks. Was more of a relationship type guy in highschool so just now starting to discover the idea of spinning plates.
Anyway rewind to last week. Visiting moscow with some friends (studying abroad for the semester somewhere else in Europe so the trip was not too difficult – except the visa process that is), and we hit the bars on our last night there.
Almost immediately found a HB8 worth talking to and approached with the classic "you come here often" opener (which works significantly better in foreign countries because they can tell you're foreign and, surprise, they always ask back if you do – which leads into telling them where you're from and playing the exotic card). She asks me if I want to get a drink (IOI) to which I naturally oblige.
Buy her the first one, shot of vodka (when in Russia...). Made fun of her for not finishing the entire thing (incredibly understandable as the shot glasses in Russia are 1.7 times the size of American ones...I almost struggled myself). Decent conversation ensues. Looks interested. Pulled a smooth kino move that I read about from another poster (cant remember who) on sosuave just the other week, and pulled her hair away from her ear to make a comment about her earing. Very receptive to that (thank you sosuave).
Jokingly (but not so jokingly) suggested she buy the next round since I was a guest in her country. To my amazement she laughs and obliges. After this round I buy the next and at this point she asks if I want to go outside to get some fresh air. I oblige.
Now we're outside and its freezing (Russia in october who knew) so I suggested that we hug to stay warm. Pretended to go for the hug with my outstretched arms but then just placed my hands on her face (all passionate like) and went for the kiss. Success! Had a quick makeout sesh there before it was too cold and we had to go back inside. However, during that sesh she did something very important: for a split second she moved my head away and whispered in my ear: I love Men who dominate me.
Now thank god I was feeling pretty good from the alcohol or else I would have probably lost my sh1t had I been sober. I've been with a few freaky girls before this but the the kinkiest thing I could say I had done before that night in my 20 years of existence was light choking (which I wasn't very good at and even comfortable with at the time). Thought that wasn't the time or place to worry about it so I just stored the content into the back of my head and proceeded with the night.
Fast-forward 3 hours of non-important material (went back got more drinks, went to a different club got more drinks, danced, asked her to come back to my place, got a cab back to the hotel) and we're back in my room hooking up on my bed. Everything's goin swell until I start going for her lower half with foreplay. Shes not having it. The "I cant tonight" and "I just met you" and "Im scared bullsh1t (shes 19 by the way)."
I've been in this situation before and I've attempted to push through it but, in previous situations, this ended poorly for me (just pissed her off even more to the point where I ended up just kicking her out of my house cuz nothing was gonna happen). All of a sudden it was looking like typic AFC denverfan all over again, buying drinks and a cab ride home just to not get the lay. As all sorts of panicked thoughts began to rush through my head, one valuable piece of information resurfaced: "I like guys who dominate me."
That's when I realized I had been playing this all wrong. She had expressly told me in advance she wanted an alpha to take charge and force her into submission. She was into that sh1t and wanted to see if I could fit the mold. I had been going about foreplay in the typical passionate way that I was accustomed to doing it – with previous girlfriends who enjoyed being treated like goddesses during foreplay and liked being held sensually. So, knowing I would never see this chick ever again after that night (I was leaving Russia the next day), I made an executive decision to be the jerk sosuave always talks about and just take her for myself (which is pretty uncharacteristic of me).
I immediately grabbed her neck (not chocking but just holding her head still) and I told her "look at my fvcking face." She was stunned, as I'd imagine anyone would be after such a mood swing during foreplay. I repeated, "look at my fvcking face you slut." Internally I was sh1tting my pants (I have never EVER done something like this before - not even close). Externally I must have appeared convincing cuz she stopped squirming from my advances and looked me right in the eyes. Without breaking my gaze I followed with, "I'm going to give you a type of pleasure you've never experience before" to which I followed with an aggressive quick hicky on her neck with a solid bite afterwards. Pulling back to lock eyes with her I again began to reach for her pants and she initially started squirming again and try to move away at which point I once again brought her back into my realm of focus: "Stop squirming. Looking me in the fvcking face." The cycle repeated itself until, on the third time, she finally let out with a small whimper: "take off my cloths."
Boom. Green light. What's funny is that immediately after she said that she tried to redact her statement verbatim with, "holy sh1t what am I saying." I had pulled her into my flow and I think even she was surprised she was being seduced at this point (probably as much as I was that I had gone so far out of my comfort zone).
Ripped off all her cloths as aggressively as possible and proceed to have, by far, the wildest and craziest sex of my life. Chocked her out aggressively and left a print on her a$$ probably lasting until next month. Anytime I stopped to take a breather or change positions I would get the: "please don't stop I want you so inside me so badly." – Pretty different tune than what you were saying just 10 minutes ago huh?
In return she scratched the SH1T out of my back any chance she got but I wasn't about to tell her to go easy on me when I was giving it to her in way harder a fashion. Small price to pay for one of the best lays and learning experience of my life.
I certainly wouldn't recommend trying this on just any random girl, especially someone you're not close with (as it can end horribly horribly wrong I'd imagine, calling rape being the most likely scenario). This girl was just incredibly kinky and into aggressive sh1t. Personally, I never would have tried it if she didn't tell me earlier she wanted to be dominated.
Overall, though, it has certainly cemented the idea in my head that some women indeed want to be taken. This sh1t test, though an aggressive one, was ruling out any beta who could not live up to the sexual experience she wanted.
We're friends on facebook. The next day she private messaged me: "I will miss you my American Dream."
