Lay Report...HBOreo ain't to SHY AFTERALL!!!!!

[Tantric]

Well...for those who haven't read any of my previous posts, for the past couple of weeks I've been macking HBOreo (HB9 Paris Runway Model). There's been some VERY cool vibes between me and her lots of Kino and C/F from both of us.

To date, we've had plans to hook up, and she either "conveniently" had other plans, or she flaked on me (like on Friday).

The overall vibe was that she was really into me, or just playing games...after all, she's a model and LOVES attention. I pegged it as games only because of the flakiness.

When she flaked on Friday it pissed me off...no phone call...her phone was blocking incoming calls...what the hell...if she even at least WANTED to go she would have contacted me...

No matter what, I was going to either make a move on this chick, or fvck off...i was tired of what "seemed" to be games. Something had stopped me from making a move earlier on...not sure what it was.

Anyway, this is how school went last night...

I am heading of the stairs to class...i see HBOreo behind me...i paused and turn around...

ME - Oh...it's the FLAKE!!

HBOreo - i KNEW you were going to say that...

I stop her in the hall

ME - so...what's going on?

HBOreo - oh...you know...I've been having problems with my phone, they disconnected it...and i haven't got my home line installed yet...

(hmmm...does the word "BULLSHYT" mean anything?)

I lead her to sit on the steps with me

ME- you could have called...

HBOreo - i know...i just...

ME - you know if you are going to flake, that's fine, but I'm going to need at least a days notice so i can make other plans....it's disrespectful.

HBOreo - I know...I'm so sorry...i was really dreading seeing you here tonight

ME - oh...thanks...that makes me feel better...

HBOreo - ...i was just soooo stressed out, and i had to do a photo shoot...

ME - (very sarcasticly) OH!! You POOOOOR baby!!

I grab her and pull her in next to me, giving her a "fake" hug

ME - that's sooooo sad!

HBOreo -ha ha...funny

I didn't sense any feeling that she was going to ask ME out to make up...so i led her a bit...

ME - so...how are you going to make it up to me?

HBOreo looks at me. it seemed like she as going to make some sort of BS excuse again...or let me down easy...then 2 other girls sit down in front of us, so she stopped herself from saying anything.

ME - Well?

HBOreo - sorry...i was going to say something really disgusting...

ME - (I raise my voice quite loud so people heard what we were talking about) So...be disgusting...how do you want to make it up to me?

The 2 other girls start engaging convo with us, so we didn't talk much more after that...then we all head into class...

I grab an empty seat, and she grabs the one next to me...good sign. The first lecture begins. She takes out her notebook and starts writing me a note...it reads, "did you get home okay last night?"

I nod but don't get involved in convo. After the first lecture, she turns to me and whispers in my ear.

HBOreo - how about i buy you a drink on Friday?

ME - hmmm...i dunno...maybe...if you're good...

The next speaker takes the stage. I figure..hmmm...nows a good time to work it. Chicks LOVE passing notes in class...I figure it might be cool to play it that way. I decide to get sex in her mind by talking (writing) about it...or at least giving her the idea. I grab her pen and notebook and we end up having the following convo via "pen":

ME - so...JUST drinks, eh?

HBOreo - what EXACTLY did you have in mind?

ME - you pervert! Is all you can think about is sex! Well...actually, i don't blame you...it is ME after all...

HBOreo - actually i thought you were talking about DINNER as well, you shovanist pig!

ME - Actually I WAS! You're the one who is bringing SEX into the convo!

HBOreo - hmmm...well...i was thinking maybe the USUAL foreplay...you know dinner,some music, dancing.

ME - Foreplay? Actually i thought foreplay was you coming to my place, a 1 hour INTENSE make out session...followed by
another hour of me giving you oral sex...but if you PREFER music and dancing, then that's okay with me...

HBOreo laughs.

HBOreo - admit it...you WANT me!

ME - hmmm....i dunno...maybe...

HBOreo - so what do you want to do?

ME - well...we'll check out Hollywood Blvd. and see what's kicking...

The notes kept along those lines c/f, flirty, sexual...then she leans over, whispers in my ear and lays THIS on me!!!

HBOreo - ...I think i love you...

Me - Of course...

She was SOOOO serious when she said it it SCARED THE SHYT OUT OF ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 weeks ago this chick openly told me that she falls in love very easily, so now i'm thinking ****!!! I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON I DIDN'T MAKE A MOVE SOONER...SHE'S FVCKED UP!!!!! WHAT THE HELL!!!!

I pretty much ignored it...

I'm at 7/11 at the break, and she enters with a friend. I;m playing it all cool...and distancing myself a lot more now since hearing that comment. She turns to her friend and tells her that she's in love with me and still SWOONING since talking with her in class. She's being a lot more sarcastic now. I think (and pray!!) that she was being sarcastic earlier. I've had a LOT of chicks tell me SHYT like this after i meet them for only a few hours, so it really pulled a red flag.

When we got back to class, the notes continued for a bit, but i don't remember too much of what was said...just lots of sexual innuendos and c/f shyt...I decided that although i got a MAJOR RED FLAG earlier, she was most likely just fvcking around to get a reaction. I turn to the girl next to me and start flirting with her...even though she was an UG...i just waned to get to her ha! HBOreo sends me a note...

HbOreo - i saw that! Flirting with other girls huh? so i'm NOT the only girl in your life.

ME - of course not...you're only on a LONG waiting list of girls. just don't beat the shyt out the other girls i know...i peg you as the jealous type.

HBOreo - no...i don't think i'd ever sink to that level...

Then we had another hours or so sexual "note passsing".

Skip to when class is over...

Me - so...can get a RIDE tonight (he he).

HBOreo - sure.

ME - i figured you'd probably want to grace yourself with my presence.

HBOreo - oh really...based on those notes, I;d say it was the other way around?

We joke a bit and she drive me back to my place. So it's now 11:30pm (we get out of school late) Okay...i KNEW i got her hot with the notes and sexual flirtation...it's now or never.

ME - You want to come in for a drink?

HBOreo (VERY surprised) Really?

ME - yeah...

HBOreo - (she smiles) Yeah, sure.

After spending 10 min. trying to find a parking spot, HBOreo and i are at my place. She takes off her jacket.

HBOreo - where do you want me to put my clothes?

Me - just tear them off and throw them on the floor.

HBOreo - actually, i meant my jacket...

ME - yeah...SURE ya did!!!

I pour us some drinks and we start talking for a bit. After some fluff, we lock eyes for a moment. I slowly put my drink down and reach over...I slowly take her drink out of her hand and place it on the table. I lean in and get closer and closer to her lips...just as I'm about to lay one on her...DISS!!!!

HBOreo turns her head.

HBOreo - Tantric, I'm shy...

I start kissing her cheek

ME - So?

HBOreo - what are you doing?

ME - what do you want me to do?

She pulls away embarassed.

Now we ALL KNOW she's not really SHY...it's just her ASD. She's been using that line a lot on me since day one. So I let it go and sit back down. She said I was moving too fast for her and that we hadn't had a REAL conversation since meeting each other...she hasn't really got to know me.

For the next 3 hours (coming on 3:30 am), we just ended up talking...hey...sometimes you gotta do what ya gotta do!

HBOreo - you know, you have to go to school at 9 in the morning...i should really get going...

ME - I'm not stopping you...besides...if you wanted to go, you would have left by now...

HBOreo - ...true...

ME - okay then...

We gazed at each other for a bit and i brought up the sex talk and told her my ONS story with HBPorn. Although not true, i DID tell her i tried calling HBPorn back, but lost her number...so it only ended up being a ONS because of circumstance.

HBOreo - ...so...why did you bring me here?

ME - ...because i wanted to sleep with you...

HBOreo - and you think i was going to let you?

ME - yup...

HBOreo - ...i should really get going...you have to go to school in the morning.

ME - i;m not stopping you.

HBOreo doesn't get up...

HBOreo - you know...i'm surprised you haven't made another move on me...

ME - ohhhh! "shy girl" isn't too shy after all is she?

HBOreo - no...well...i wasn't shy...i was just nervous...you move fast...

By the time she was finishing that sentence, i already had my tongue down her throat. We ended up making out for about 1 hour by which point i was finger fvcking her and getting her to lick her wetness off my fingers. She had an AMAAAAAAAZZZZZINGGGGG body!!!! NICE tanned, smooth skin...perfect curves, NICE ass...tits were a bit smaller than i'm used to, but i didn't give a shyt.

 

[Tantric]

I started to go down on her as i was finger fvcking her and in about 15 min. brought her to a really nice orgasm (she hadn't had one in 7 months). MAN COULD SHE MOVE THOSE HIPS!!!!!!! I pretty much didn't have to do anything! My tongue was in her pu$$y and all over her c1it...she raised her hips about 2 feet off the ground (seemed like she was balancing on her head!)!!!!!!! She moved her pu$$y in rhythm, so i just had to lay my tongue there...she was actually a lot quieter than the other girls i've been with when she got off...but it was cool...I'll have teach her to be louder on Friday, he he.

By this point, I only had my shirt off, and it was about 5:30am. After she calmed down a bit after getting off, she leaned over and told me to get inside her.

ME - I would...but my clothes are still on...

She smiles. After tearing my clothes off, I fvcked her for only about 15 min. I totally wanted to fvck this chick all night, but I was SOOOOOOO tired!!!! I actually haven't used a condom in about 4 years, because it is VERY hard for me to get off using one. I can usually go about 2 hours straight fvcking using one, but i hardly feel anything. Even though she loved being on top, and it gave me time to kick back, I really had NO energy to finish, so i ended up not getting off...plus had to get up for school in about an hour.

Anyway...that's my first LR since coming to this site 8 weeks ago. I'm looking forward to posting another one on Friday...he he

Peace

 

[Roots]

I can't believe I actually read that. Seriously, usually when I see something this long I just don't bother. But then you started to remind me of me so I kept reading. Well done. Thats the way to go. You're deffinitely one of the few guys that can use common sense when it comes to girls. Ill leave it at that. But great job, shes in the bag. Go out and have a lot of fun with this girl, I'm sure it'll be great. Once again, nicely done.

 

[Omega]

Pimpin

 

[Tkman]

A true PIMP

 

[chlywly]

Nice, thats what I like to see the rest can learn from you, she flaked you continued and got di poon, good man.

 

[Tantric]

Yeah...usually i would "NEXT" a chick pretty quick...especially one who demonstrates flaky behaviour.

I figured i'd get her thinking about "sex" (the hint while we were on the steps, "how are you going to make it up to me?"...and the note passing); and then build up the attraction again.

It worked like a charm...

 

[JustDoItAlways]

Awesome. I think this is our first Paris runway model LR.

Cool. Give her the 2 hour treatment next time.

 

[Jake Steed]

Hey Tantric,

First off, congratulations. You got what you wanted. Props to you.



If your head isn't too swelled, I have some suggestions that might improve your game.

First of all, I think your "****y & funny" stuff comes off a little too contrived. It's like every other line you say, you are trying to convince YOURSELF as well as her that you are "****y" and "funny".

"ME - you pervert! Is all you can think about is sex! Well...actually, i don't blame you...it is ME after all..."


"ME - of course not...you're only on a LONG waiting list of girls."

To me, this sounds like you are a dork who is trying to ACT ****y and funny, rather than just portraying yourself natually. The BEST way to be ****y and funny is to BE ****y and funny and actually TRY to modestly hide what a pimp you are. It's hard to explain, but what it comes down to is not advertising yourself too much.

When I first met my current gf at a house party, she sized me up--the way I looked, the way I walked, acted, talked, and she KNEW I was fvcking someone. It's true, I was dating a couple girls. But the point is, she could sense it because of my attitude and she was drawn to me. She thought I had a gf and I was a big player.

Guess how many times I verballized what a "pimp" I was? Zero. And THAT made her obsess over how many girls I was fvcking. Because I was charming and funny and attractive, but at the same time kind of modestly kept my attractiveness on the backburner and just WAS.

Another example of this is there's a guy I know actually on this board, who I've met IRL. He scores tons of chicks. He has the attitude and look, but not only does he not verballize himself, he actually busts his own balls in front of girls. He will approach a girl and say something like, "Damn I was so nervous to come approach you, I almost pissed my pants. Ha ha ha" She can see that this actually isn't true because of the real confidence he has coming off him in waves, so it's like she and him share a private secret--that he's really a pimp but coming down to her level to meet her. Does this make any sense?

Another criticism I have is how you cultivated a sense of guilt and obligation in her when you harassed her on flaking. I actually thought it was kind of juvenile--like you were whining. In most cases, you will annoy the girl and in her head, she will be happy to have flaked on you because you turned out to be a whiner. It's like you are showing her how important she is to you because you got upset about the flaking. The best way to deal with it is to ignore it and show her you really don't give a fvck either way if she flakes because you have other options. In this case, there's something about THIS particular girl that allowed her to see past your harrassing her on the flaking. That turned out to work well for you in spite of.

Again, congrats on nailing her. I don't mean to steal your thunder. I just think these things I noticed might help your game in the future, even if it didn't fvck things up with THIS girl this time.

Jake

 

[drixsa]

hell of a post by jake

while most others told u to next her and stop wasting your time i knew that this girl wanted you

the question is if down the line she is worth your time

all i can say is do not get serious with this one

any girl that has shown you all these unattractive sides of herself so early on probably is not a keeper

based upon the detail of which you wrote your lay report i find it hard to find that this girl didnt send u on your a$$ for all that c+f.

most of it sounded like very "canned" material

i do not think that all this c+f really is who you are nor do i think that you need it

 

[Tantric]

Thanks Jake and Drixsa...

No worries...my inflated ego isn't hurt ...though i am crying tyoing this email...

I completely understand the point you guys were making on the whole "trying" to be c/f...instead of just "being" c/f, and i do disagree with both of you.

Her and I kinda have an "i'm sexier than you" thing going on back and forth, which is why some of c/f stuff sounded contrived...it pretty much was! Obviously "typing" what was going on loses a but of the translation and overall "sense" of what was really happening, so I don't think it was a bad as what you have both pointed out. She's been giving me the whole, "I'm the REAL goods" speach and how "cool she is"...so i was just giving it back to her...

Another criticism I have is how you cultivated a sense of guilt and obligation in her when you harassed her on flaking. I actually thought it was kind of juvenile--like you were whining.

hmmm...interesting...

nah...it DEFINITLY wasn't whining...the post wasn't verbatum and i'm pretty sure it didn't come out that way...but then again who knows...i don't remember half of the shyt that was said anyway.

I have always appreciated your input, so i'll keep your thoughts in my head so i am aware of it...in case they in fact were as "contrived" as you pointed out.

Thanks guys...

 

[Jake Steed]

Tantric,

You're right that typed conversations don't do justice to what really went on, and that you two were obviously on the same wavelength in terms of your humor (part of the reason she fvcked you). I've found that being on the same wavelength, even if that means being "dorky" (to me it sounds like SHE was kind of being dorky with her comments) is more important than playing some "****y" role and hoping it will magically make girls fall into your lap--which I think is a shortcoming of young guys. They think there's a magic formula or "code" to unlock all females, when in fact they are all humans running on emotions.

I look forward to hearing more about what happens with you and this girl. It can be very educational for guys on this board.

Jake

 

[Tantric]

Thanks Jake...

It's kinda wierd, but i really like this chick...

I dunno...I'm used to dating younger girls, but with that tends to come emotional issues, drama, and neediness. I don't sense any of that from her (so far ) which is really cool.

I spoke to her earlier on, and she was wondering if i was "calling her up for round 2", he he . It goes to say I'll be getting in her - i mean "getting together" with her tomorrow...

 

[NatureGuy]

Nice story -thanks.

 

[MikeYikes122]

And I usually enjoy sarcasm but not when an idiot is the one saying it....

Congrats on all this Tantric. This is going to sound fvkced up, but you kind of helped to make my week with all this ****. I get caught up in girls' flakiness a whole lot sometimes. Sometimes even to the point of obssession. I told you myself just to grab your balls and do what you think is right and not what every idiot on that post you made told you to do.

But unfortunately, I am a hypocrite because I wasn't practicing what I preached. The advice I gave you earlier this week was just a nice thought that I had been trying to tell myself. But now that's all changed. I am going to stop worrying about what girls do and quit looking at all their actions and words for stupid little signs, and I'm just going to go off the obvious like you did. I guess I am now starting to realize I have gotten caught up in girls' games for a long time now.

Hah, you gotta love moments of insight. Clarity is more beautiful than the hottest HB in the world. Best of luck with this girl, and keep me and everyone else posted.