Lack of Social Skills

drchristiantroy

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What do u do if your social skills are poor altogether? Let me give you a synopsis of me. I do have quite a few friends but that is because I am in a fraternity otherwise I would find it hard to make friends under some other venue. I have alot of trouble initiating conversation with friends in general. Alot of conversations that I try to initiate are usually awkward and I have been reading alot of pick up advice but my main problem is trying to not seem so awkward when I initiate conversation.

I have tried affirmations and pretending I am the prize, but those don't work with me either.
 

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Because you don't act or look like a prize.



What to do if you don't know how to drive? Learn and aquire driving skills, no difference between driving skills and social skills, except people taking the latter personal..


When you have balls you don't think about awkwardness, no such thing : http://sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111127



so, get balls, that will rewire your brain from submissive to dominant, then you can rewire further using David D or anything else you can lay your hands on
 

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First of all, most guys in general tend to have poor interpersonal skills. If you're only hanging out with guys, then you will probably never develop rapport building skills very well. I suggest you take a job where you have to interact with dozens or hundreds of people per day. Otherwise, try making some female friends and hang out with them also.

And the usual advice still applies, go to dance classes, acting classes, comedy classes, toastmasters, anything that forces you to become less flat and drab.
 

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Here's how I did it. I joined EVERYTHING under the sun. I joined dance lessons (btw... join hip-hop, r'n'b, not classical dance lessons), i joined 2 language courses, joined yoga, joined 2 organizations, and took out the social events calendar and started tracking all current events like festival, movies, happenings, free concerts, free presentations, expos etc... etc.. And starting to go to these things.

Do this IN CONCERT with the DJBC, as it accelerates the progress. It sure did for me. Because doing all this other stuff, expanded my social skills, but doing it together with the DJBC, it EXPLODED them.

AGAIN. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! Don't just read it and continue what you've been doing! You HAVE TO commit to joining as man as possible of these "niches". As many as possible. Shoot for ones that have a bigger female-to-male ratio.
 

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good advice alek...

i personally have trouble meeting women (in my living room) so i was thinking about doing a scattershot/clusterfvck of any and all club kinda stuff myself.

for original poster-

i disagree that confidence is all here. i know a lot of socially inept guys who focus on mere confidence and they come off as insipid, delusional jerkoffs.

confidence combined with ineptitude makes you dangerously incompetent. kinda like someone trying to operate a nuclear reactor on confidence alone.

you do need to work on skills. but first step is admitting you have a problem. and you do! and you KNOW. that's huge. there are tons of guys who are completely oblivious to how awful they come off.

now that you know, keep practicing with your frat and friends. do what you do but now OBSERVE... what you do, how you do, what others do, how they do. your friends are now a class. study.

oh, and here's an unconventional bit of advice in a dj forum:

read PROVERBS in the old testament (actually, all the "wisdom" books are really good - ecclesiastes is great when you feel like everything sucks). lots of good bits of wisdom. be careful with the stuff about simply keeping your mouth shut though. for a dj, that's deadly. but in situations where you don't need to get laid, the principle kinda works.

and a somewhat biblical principle in general that may not come across in the wisdom books: if you act from fear, you lose. if you interact simply to GAIN VALIDATION and ACCEPTANCE, if you are trying to get people to LIKE YOU, if you are focused on WHAT YOU ARE GETTING OUT OF IT, you lose.

generally, if you act out of LOVE, if you are selfless and genuinely seek the well being of others, if you are concerned with them and their lives, if you LOSE YOURSELF and can focus on the other - you will immediately be well received.

BE WARY HOWEVER - it can be a SUBTLE thing! someone who's cracking jokes and being funny can be doing it to SELF AGGRANDIZE and inevitably he looks small and like a jerk. but if you do it simply out of a sense of fun, to put people at ease or entertain them, then you are acting from selflessness and oddly enough, that ends up helping the "self" better than any greedy grab for glory.

basically, are you SELFISH or SELFLESS. do you suck energy or put it out. do you take and take or do you give and give. actually, STYLE sent out a recent newsletter that had just this message.

also do a search in amazon for "aphorisms"... they're nuggets of wisdom. they really can illuminate on wise courses of action and bits of behavior....

delta
 
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Thanks guys

Thanks for all the advice guys. I like the idea about reading the from the book of proverbs, since I do consider myself as a strong Christian. I think that I am going to take alot of classes in things that I have always wanted to do (like R&B and swing dancing). I am also going to surround myself with comedy to make myself a funnier person.

I do have to say that the website that Tau gave us was awesome, it has alot of good general advice. I have been looking for a website like that for a long time. I think that I could be developed into an great source for social skill education. Alot of the articles could be used in the DJB.

Also, what do think I can do to build social value among friends that I have known for a long time? I have heard that once someone has an initial impression it is hard for someone to change that.
 

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What's this emphasis on being "cool" or "smooth"? I don't get it. So what if you can't be that Pro Foot ball player, or that Bouncer with the club connections.

You will definetely attract someone that is compatible with you, you can't give a nerdy person $1000 of new clothes, cosmetic upgrades to his face, and a new diet/workout regiment and he will become a different man. If you were practicing that life for many years (FROM YOUR TEEN YEARS) you will become that person, but if you're in your 20s-30s, forget about it.

Be happy with what you are even if you are geeky, or lack social skills. More than likely there will be a girl that shares the same mutual qualities that you have or even finds you interesting enough to be with. Trust me on this, she will be the one trying to connect with you rather than making a half hearted attempt at it. Many of us have spent from our teens to her 20s trying to fit into an identity. You already got your identity handed down to you by society long ago, LIVE IT UP is what I suggest. Yes, definetely change your diet to becoming healthier, Yes, definetely have an active physical lifestyle, Yes, try to not take things that seriously.

And finally, yes. If you see an attractive girl, and you are in the "Mode of Confidence" go for it.
 

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hitman1000,

there is indeed a girl out there for everyone. and that is a TERRIFYING idea.

you're a nerd with no social skills, 50lbs overweight and a wardrobe from the 80s... ABSOLUTELY there is a girl out there for him. but it cannot be beheld in daylight or else the world will end.

ultimately, i think what you're saying is no comfort.

the idea is not to get someone who will take you... or even be compatible with you.

the idea is to get someone you're happy with. right?

delta
 

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I don't know...

Hitman10000 said:
What's this emphasis on being "cool" or "smooth"? I don't get it. So what if you can't be that Pro Foot ball player, or that Bouncer with the club connections.

You will definetely attract someone that is compatible with you, you can't give a nerdy person $1000 of new clothes, cosmetic upgrades to his face, and a new diet/workout regiment and he will become a different man. If you were practicing that life for many years (FROM YOUR TEEN YEARS) you will become that person, but if you're in your 20s-30s, forget about it.

Be happy with what you are even if you are geeky, or lack social skills. More than likely there will be a girl that shares the same mutual qualities that you have or even finds you interesting enough to be with. Trust me on this, she will be the one trying to connect with you rather than making a half hearted attempt at it. Many of us have spent from our teens to her 20s trying to fit into an identity. You already got your identity handed down to you by society long ago, LIVE IT UP is what I suggest. Yes, definetely change your diet to becoming healthier, Yes, definetely have an active physical lifestyle, Yes, try to not take things that seriously.

And finally, yes. If you see an attractive girl, and you are in the "Mode of Confidence" go for it.
Hitman10000, well what if I hung around with someone who's personality that I want to adopt? plus I am moving to a new city in 6 months most likely, so i will have to start from square one on friends.

And I guess if all else fails there is always Ross Jefferies material. With this I could always keep my identity, but still have my choice of girls.

But then aga
 
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