Laci Peterson's Mom: Bitter Feminist Cvnt!

[Mr. Unique]

ethnomethodologist, wyldfire and the rest give the guy a break okay, grow the **** up!

 

[Epic]

I can't believe the attitude that some of you have. This woman has a right to be mad at all men of she wants to. A man murdered her daughter what would you have to say? Some of you think in absolutes what too much. You above all are acting the most childish, Alicorn. Do you think it's cool to attack a grieving mother? Think before you post. Some of you guys have no balls at all. I know Wyldfire may make some posts that anger you guys, but this should not be one of them. To attack her for defending Laci's mother is horrible. You should be ashamed. Guys like you are no better than the feminists who attack males for any reason they can. It's your type that makes me wonder why I even bother to read posts on this site.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Mr. Unique
ethnomethodologist, wyldfire and the rest give the guy a break okay, grow the **** up!

No, I won't give him a break. His thinking has degenerated to the point where he is seeing sexism against men where there is none. If we all just sit back and allow him to vent aimlessly and without being called out when he is wrong he is going to end up a miserable, bitter and very unhappy young man. There are times when things are unfair for men and that they are treated unfairly. This isn't one of those times and he needs to hear that from the rest of the community here so he can hopefully straighten out his currently FUBAR thinking.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Epic
I can't believe the attitude that some of you have. This woman has a right to be mad at all men of she wants to. A man murdered her daughter what would you have to say? Some of you think in absolutes what too much. You above all are acting the most childish, Alicorn. Do you think it's cool to attack a grieving mother? Think before you post. Some of you guys have no balls at all. I know Wyldfire may make some posts that anger you guys, but this should not be one of them. To attack her for defending Laci's mother is horrible. You should be ashamed. Guys like you are no better than the feminists who attack males for any reason they can. It's your type that makes me wonder why I even bother to read posts on this site.

Personally, I think Laci's mother was very fair. She said at first that she believed Scott was innocent. She didn't automatically assume he was guilty. She stated that very clearly in the interview. A lot of women would have automatically assumed it was the husband. She initially gave him the benefit of the doubt. A feminist "cvnt" would not have done that.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Mr. Unique
ethnomethodologist, wyldfire and the rest give the guy a break okay, grow the **** up!

This guy deserves all the crap he's getting, and if you don't shut up, we'll give it to you, too.

 

[Mr. Unique]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
This guy deserves all the crap he's getting, and if you don't shut up, we'll give it to you, too.

Okay, Im convinced you can go ahead and gang bang the guy for all I care now, heh sorry buddy but I dont want to be in the middle of this.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by Mr. Unique
Okay, Im convinced you can go ahead and gang bang the guy for all I care now, heh sorry buddy but I dont want to be in the middle of this.

Than back off, stop wasting our time, if your defending him, we will attack you to. You are wrong for telling us to stop wanting to make his life better, and for telling him to stop telling us things that are wrong, and trying to convince us, with no good reason, other than to say laci peterson is a *****. Maybe she is, but why say one quote that is wrong, that is what the starting argument was, we've since now realized his problems go deeper, so we're being tough on him... if we could make him laugh to know he was wrong, we would. Add that to the conversation if you must, but now your just butting in, so butt out, I don't want to hear you if your just making the problem worse. Your like a scab, and of course, I don't want to pick at it. Still it's there, you are here, I said it, I'm not scared, I don't know if I'm wrong, so I am going to be a big man, and tell you I don't. Tell me better, make me believe, and I will listen.

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Know what...just based on my own personal experiences...if I CHOSE to view everything based on male vs female I would probably hate all men. Ya know...there are lots of really great men out there, just as there are lots of really great women. Personally, I think it's retarded to blame all men or all women for something one or two have done. People who choose to do that become bitter, miserable lonely old grumps. Life is too short.

Stop being retarded...

Thanks, had to read it a few times, or listen a few times to get the point. I believed you at first, I wanted a better argument to myself, to make myself happy inside about the real world. I hate lying, so thanks for confirming the truth, it makes me happy to know, I can now help people better with what you just revealed to me. Thank you for respecting my wish for you to get angry at me, it really brought out your feelings. I'm sorry I didn't understand before I posted in your vote thread, I hope you read this first. What you said is true, I still enjoy being angry about it though, so it gets written into my emotions.

I believe feminists are there for a reason, to point out that there are men, and women, who make problems in our lives, for no reason at all. They are lying to us, since we know the truth, so they are wasting our time doing so. We get angry about it, so we look for more, we look deeper, and care more. Of course there are wrong ways to go about it all, the bible calls them the seven deadly sins. feminists are part of the bible's world, or some part of religions world, I'm not arguing for religion, just saying they know better. They don't believe what is happening though, and they think something better can be done.

Of course the world listens. Those who speak the loudest, are who they hear. There are education systems, that fail to raise our children, or we would allbe happy geniuses, or happy idiots, but people get angry about what they don't understand, some get scared and run away, others bring the subject up, until somebody makes them happy again. What I say is true as far as I know, and if I could make you laugh, I would, but I can't so I won't. So there are feminists, and anti feminists, anti anit feminists, there are anti anti anti feminists. Some vicious circle isn't it? counter arguments lodged againsts arguements, we all have to hear it, if we don't want to, we don't listen, we could do that all the time. This would probably go better in telling people to stop getting worked up about feminism thread. Pook was right, but not absolutely right, or everybody would have understood, and there would have been no arguments against him. The world is not a utopia yet, that's why it is exciting.

So back to what I wanted to know from you. Thank you, for helping me. You said you CHOSE to view the world as male vs. female. I do as well, so I can see why others think the same way. I am afraid that that is the truth, I do not accept it though, I think it is retarted, I think we could live in peace and harmony, but that would get boring, so people say we are wrong, just to spice things up. It gets boring after a while though, about everybody saying everybody else is wrong, so some day, we will look in other directions for excitement, some people turn to sadism, I personally never will. I won't ever murder anybody who doesn't deserve what they don't give to other people, I've still got to learn that lesson in other areas of life. As in not getting angry at a priest, fornot gettting angry at me.

So do you know HOW to teach people, that don't want to learn? don't think so, I wanted to learn, so I told you how to teach me, and it worked, you did an excellent job, I am happy for it, this is the first time I have ever thanked somebodyso much so fast, you should be happy you are so special. I won't do this again because I am annoyed at being so nice, it is losing its meaning to me. If you could teach Alicorn to stop being like this, perhaps you could others as well, you could be a great leader, if you put your mind where your mouth is.

 

[Wyldfire]

Edited out to include in a different post...

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by ethnomethodologist
So back to what I wanted to know from you. Thank you, for helping me. You said you CHOSE to view the world as male vs. female.

No...I said IF I chose to view the world as male vs female. I DON'T view it that way. I was just saying that IF I did view it that way I would most likely hate men. I DON'T hate men, nor do I want to. I judge people, male or female based on who they are as an INDIVIDUAL, because that is how I would hope others would judge me.

If you could teach Alicorn to stop being like this, perhaps you could others as well, you could be a great leader, if you put your mind where your mouth is.

Alicorn's problem, like so many other guys here is that he looks up to and admires the WRONG guys on here. Sadly, Pook got to a point where he became far too focused on trying to tie everything to feminism. There are so many guys who come on here and trade in their idolization of some woman for an idolization of Pook. Don't get me wrong...he's made some great posts...but he DID get too embroiled with the feminism stuff. So many guys suck up everything he writes and takes it for gospel. So now we have some guys who have likewise become too embroiled in a very negative and unhealthy pattern that in the end, is going to hurt them and cause them so much pain.

Believe it or not, I'm an antifeminist (despite the fact you called me a "feminazi" in an earlier post). I've actually helped hudreds of men overcome their anger and learn to actually relate in a healthy way with women...even radical feminists. I did this by running a Gender Issues forum that brought both sides of the issues together to hash out their differences. I didn't ban anyone and only censored death threats, posting of personal information and illegal content. I gave self proclaimed misogynists a place to sound off, speak their minds on gender issues and refused to allow the radical feminists to shout them down and get them booted. I provided a level battleground that was truly equal and fair. The most bitter and angry man I had ever met in my life thanked me for providing him the opportunity to hash it out and after awhile he actually became great friends with some of the most radical feminists you could imagine.

There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with the valid issues men face regarding sexism and unfairness. Hijacking a dating/relationship/seduction forum with this stuff is NOT the way to do it. It shows a complete and total lack of respect for Allen. If he had of wanted a Men's Rights site he would have made one.

It's not that Men's Rights aren't important...they are. They just should NOT be the focus here, where there are so many young, frustrated guys who cannot improve their situation until they learn to take responsibility for their own mistakes and issues. All the blaming of everything on feminism just distracts these guys from doing what they need to do to improve themselves. You can see the results in the content of this forum. That's why you see virtually no real overall growth in the members. Their growth is being stymied by all this feminism stuff. It's NOT GOOD for this site. These guys are looking for ANY EXCUSE to avoid looking within to resolve their issues. Blaming feminism and women for everything is doing no man here any favors. It's just hurting them.

I look at long term impact...and while venting might make guys feel better...in the long run, it's just a distraction that pulls them away from doing the work they need to do to reach their goals.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Hey wyldfire, I'm going to ask you a question. Personal question, you can PM me, but I'd rather you be brave, and tell me in public, it is a question I am placing in public.

Do you ever admit to the people who matter, the listeners, when you are wrong?

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by ethnomethodologist
Hey wyldfire, I'm going to ask you a question. Personal question, you can PM me, but I'd rather you be brave, and tell me in public, it is a question I am placing in public.

Do you ever admit to the people who matter, the listeners, when you are wrong?

Yes, I do. There have been times I have misread things and I've always apologized and admitted I made a mistake.

I put a great deal of thought into the advice I give and the threads I start. I am blunt, brutally honest and don't hold any punches. Because of the fact that I put a lot of thought into what I think about something BEFORE I post it, I rarely make a mistake.

If you're talking about opinions...well, those are very personal things that are supposed to vary from person to person.

Alicorn probably believes he is arguing his opinion regarding this, however, his perception of what the woman said is way off base. He is taking what she wrote out of context and attempting to make it mean something it simply doesn't mean. She was talking about wives who get murdered. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Wives are ALWAYS women. Only HUSBANDS have WIVES and ONLY men can be HUSBANDS. Therefore, logically speaking, there was NO WAY for that woman to state her opinion without directing it at those few men who murder their wives.

Alicorn is feeling guilty for being a man, so anytime he sees, hears or reads something that refers to a man who has done something wrong he gets defensive and angry. This is because he is NOT secure in who he is as a man. Rather than acknowledge that and deal with it, he reacts as he did in this thread. Afterall...it's much easier to call some woman who spoke out about the murder of her daughter a "feminist cvnt" than it is to admit that he doesn't quite understand what he's doing or how to get where he wants to be.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

The upcoming excerpt and the resulting paraphrasing and inherrent grammar modifications are an example of prime hypocriticicism. Everybody pay attention, I sure can't await the results. You know I would say sorry for this Wyldfire, I'm just turning what you said against you, so I can learn, I hope this brutal honesty makes you feel better in the long run, and that it was an honest distraction, to show you what you need to do to reach your goals.
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Hm, I've still got a problem with you. Can't put my finger on it yet, but rest assured, "I will know your secret one day spiderman", I mean Wyldfire... or is it BATMAN?

I know I'm not wasting your time, because you already know what your time is worth when you take the time to think through your responses to me. It's also very alpha MALE to reply isn't it?

I'm just thinking "These (gals) are looking for ANY EXCUSE to avoid looking within to resolve their issues" "Blaming (chauvinism) and (men) for everything is doing no (MAN) here any favors." "I rarely make a mistake" "I put a lot of thought into what I think about something BEFORE I post it."

So back to my question, you never really answered it, I don't like how you don't enjoy admitting your mistakes. You should admit your mistakes openly, and honestly. "I am blunt, brutally honest and don't hold any punches" I learn from the best, because flattery is the highest form of irritation, I mean "imitation is the highest form of flattery". Well, in hindsight, (that word again, I need a new repertoire to feed from) you did answer my question, indirectly, and with more oompha, than Alicorn ever did. You just admitted your problem as well, you are afraid, and I hate liars, men, women, children and adults (and 30 year old cry babies alike) who lie to me and themselves, for no good reason.

"Afterall...it's much easier to call some (dude, who might be the father of my future ex-wife) who spoke out (from a confused mindset) about (Laci Peterson and ) the murder of her daughter(,) a "feminist cvnt(,)" than it is to admit (for you) that (you, Wyldfire) doesn't quite understand what he's doing or how to get where he wants to be" "There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with the valid issues men face regarding sexism and unfairness. Hijacking a dating/relationship/seduction forum with this stuff is NOT the way to do it."
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"I look at long term impact...and while venting might make guys feel better...in the long run, it's just a distraction that pulls them away from doing the work they need to do to reach their goals."

I look at this, as the pinnacle of my learning since new years day. Well up to the point of where you say it is a distraction from the real work. I think it is needed, I want to vent at myself, for reasons beyond my knowledge, about things I do not know about, yet.

 

[Wyldfire]

As I said...I am BRUTALLY honest. Some people have a difficult time accepting that from a woman. Apparently you are one of those people. I could come on here and lie to people, or sugarcoat things like most women do, so that you don't really know what I think. I choose not to do that. Instead, I speak the truth...and sadly, some of you just can't handle the truth. Oh well...

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
As I said...I am BRUTALLY honest. Some people have a difficult time accepting that from a woman. Apparently you are one of those people. I could come on here and lie to people, or sugarcoat things like most women do, so that you don't really know what I think. I choose not to do that. Instead, I speak the truth...and sadly, some of you just can't handle the truth. Oh well...

Well obviously there's something bothering you. You are BRUTALLY honest, true, but what if you are wrong? You never seem to ask questions, you speak first and ask later, is that any way I should be looking up to somebody? DO as I say, not as I do? It's a great lesson to learn from somebody as grand as you, but of course compliments are lost upon those who do not want them. The last post I made to you was praise of the highest order. I asked you to help me, I respected you, by using your own words, I could not respond word for word, but I tried to the best of my abilities. I don't want to be an *******, and ******* is almost always wrong, and nobody really likes an ******* at the end of the day, they just want to know why the ******* doesn't like tham, is why he ever accomplishes anything. Could say the same for a *****, Wyldfire. Sorry for using the words, but women say it to me all the time, "Yeah I'm a *****, so what?" well they did, until I learned better, thanks to everybody at sosuave.

I am saddened to hear that you don't believe a word I am saying to you, you are probably happy that I am trying to make you happy, and you are going to get angry at me again, for not saying it exactly how you want to hear it. I hope you are kind, and generous, enough to teach me otherwise. Somemight call me jaded, as some call you, I accept the word, I know I am a dumb ****, they should be happy that I am even bothering to try. I hold back my tears, knowing I HAVE ****ed up in life, royally, most of you on this site would hate me, if I didn't learn anything from the people who have lost theirs lives because my hands weren't busy.

Telling the honest truth, I can see now, it doesn't have to be brutal. So tell me Wyldfire, you finally seem to be opening the flood gates, does this mean, you are open to change? Try and get your point across, you can only make yourself do something, others you can only seduce(to lead, remember that). I came to this site for women, how to treat them better, I have lost women I love to suicide.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by ethnomethodologist
Well obviously there's something bothering you. You are BRUTALLY honest, true, but what if you are wrong? You never seem to ask questions, you speak first and ask later, is that any way I should be looking up to somebody? DO as I say, not as I do? It's a great lesson to learn from somebody as grand as you, but of course compliments are lost upon those who do not want them. The last post I made to you was praise of the highest order. I asked you to help me, I respected you, by using your own words, I could not respond word for word, but I tried to the best of my abilities. I don't want to be an *******, and ******* is almost always wrong, and nobody really likes an ******* at the end of the day, they just want to know why the ******* doesn't like tham, is why he ever accomplishes anything. Could say the same for a *****, Wyldfire. Sorry for using the words, but women say it to me all the time, "Yeah I'm a *****, so what?" well they did, until I learned better, thanks to everybody at sosuave.

I am saddened to hear that you don't believe a word I am saying to you, you are probably happy that I am trying to make you happy, and you are going to get angry at me again, for not saying it exactly how you want to hear it. I hope you are kind, and generous, enough to teach me otherwise. Somemight call me jaded, as some call you, I accept the word, I know I am a dumb ****, they should be happy that I am even bothering to try. I hold back my tears, knowing I HAVE ****ed up in life, royally, most of you on this site would hate me, if I didn't learn anything from the people who have lost theirs lives because my hands weren't busy.

Telling the honest truth, I can see now, it doesn't have to be brutal. So tell me Wyldfire, you finally seem to be opening the flood gates, does this mean, you are open to change? Try and get your point across, you can only make yourself do something, others you can only seduce(to lead, remember that). I came to this site for women, how to treat them better, I have lost women I love to suicide.

Listen...the reason you're not getting the length or detailed response you are hoping for is because you are rambling in your posts. My guess is that you are trying to fit too many thoughts together at once. It's imposible to follow exactly what it is that you're trying to get at. I'm saying that not to be mean, but to try to help you recognize the problem so you can adjust it and get more of the kind of response you're looking for.

Now, you seem to think I am mean to Alicorn. Yeah, I'm rude to him. There is a reason for that. Every post he has ever made to me has been a personal attack, insult, attack on my dead fiance' and even on my children. He posted to me before I ever posted to him...and he NEVER made any attempt to be even remotely civil. You get what you give with me. If you attack and insult me just because you don't like my opinion, statement on a topic or advice and I said nothing to you to warrant that...I WILL tear you a new a$$hole. I make no apologies for that, nor should I. However, every person who is courteous, polite and respectful to me will be treated with the exact same level of courtesy, respect and politeness they show me...EVEN when I disagree with them.

Alicorn thinks he has some mighty big balls, insulting and attacking a dead man and little kids. Well...my ovaries are a hell of a lot bigger and as long as he posts to or about me and my loved ones in the fashion he chooses I WILL slap him around like the pathetic piece of trash he conducts himself as...period.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Well, your the first person to say stop writing such long posts after me, nobody responds to my short posts though.

I was saying you were being a d!ck to me, I will now refer to you as a guy, you can insult me by calling me a girl. Or would you prefer using assh0le and b!tch for the specified gender? They both mean the same thing.

I knew there was a problem, because I agreed with everything you said, and you lashed out at me for it. I recognize the game now, I used it for the first 2 days I was posting pretty much, right up until I got so sick I couldn't stand anymore. I have changed since than, I am bitter, and confused. I am very much more grateful to people now, I have learned to control my anger, and now I'm learning how to get my point across, so thanks for reacting.

I just notice, that you never know when you are wrong.

When are you ever wrong? Only when they prove 100% without a doubt, because it seems like you never DOUBT. *uh huh uh huh*

 

[A-Unit]

An Observation.

I always find that the guys, and gals, who can't learn to change their own life circumstances and make their own, live with what they're given, and then live life out complaining and bytching about it. Thus is the frame of life an AFC operates from, but like a fish, he does not know he's part of a greater scheme from which he is but a puppet.


The same is true of putting all the problems OUT there.

And even if they are out there (which they're not), so what?

Stories of how prisoners survived in concentration camps and as POW's exemplify the mentality of freedom that exists. You might be physically free, but most people are mentally enslaved, because they cave on their emotions and remain captive to systems of thought.

I'll reiterate, it's the AFC mentality that, instead of reversing situations, or even benefiting by current institutions, yields to their power.

It's not of me to ATTACK THE PERSON, but the idea, and the idea IS NOT the person, so take no offense by what I say or type. Only that your mind is providing said results.

Millions of other guys have not found offense or even a shread of caring in her statements; this does not make me an AFC, nor a chump, I just choose what I attach my emotions to and what I don't. Sadly, most take no time of day to consider such things.

Wasn't in George Bernard Shaw who said he respect men who MADE his own circumstances?

-There are men getting into wonderful relationships RIGHT now [my bro is 1 of them]
-There are men making lots of money RIGHT now.
-There are men who are 40 banging young broads.
-There are young chaps finding young girls worthy of their time.
-There are guys waking up all the time, and THEN falling asleep.

It's like some guys, you just shouldn't WAKE up from the matrix, because AT some point, they're too AFC inbred to change, or willing to. They see what exists and NOW despise it. They hate on their family, friends, girls, the gov., education, the whole damn existence, for making it, for supposedly making them, rather than them USING the time more beneficially on fixing what exists and helping others.

And that's the PLIGHT of the AFC, they don't change. They're SLIGHTLY awakened, but the good they know, is used improperly. And because they FEEL so wronged for their inability to adapt and actually SEE, it's like using their power for evil.

The AFC only MISPLACES this focus. Instead of it being ON women, they adapt a few skills to picking up 5 or 6's. Or they adapt a few skills to their life. But they never go the whole way. They're the same person, new skin, old spirit and personality. They're not awakened, they're just armed. And now dangerous. The rise in ANTI-feminist posts is testament to this.

I'll say SYSTEMS of thought have LONG existed to control 1 person over and throughout time. Look around. Philosophically QUESTION it all. Question existence. But don't hate. because THIS is your existence. The planet itself might have control mechanisms, but it doesn't mean you must be. And it begins on a THOUGHT level, and then becomes FORM. It begins with the mind.

The frustration of ANY AFC who remains EMASCULATED and cut off from his masculine stream of flow. Yeah, alot of guys understand they own their lives, but most don't KNOW it. Like clock work, they jump on here and troll, or lash back, or take the AUTOMATIC, like a robot response, and jump over the woman, or women on the board. I didn't read deeply enough through the post, but I feel that I didn't because it diverted from the topic at hand and became more of a "See the women are to blame!"

I've gone deep enough to explain why that is not so, so I won't now.

Nonetheless, the men who complain about such circumstances, can't be happy with what they have, can't change what they got and are powerless to do so. They lack control of their mind to look past these things and gain control of the world at hand via the mind and get to the core of the issue.

I doubt some woman being slaughtered at the mercy of her supposed husband, who, by marriage, both legal and religious, becomes her SPIRITUAL guardiatn is a FEMINIST issue. Her mom is hurt, and consequently, she's lableing SCOTT-type guys as BASTARDS, not all men. THESE men, imply men like SCOTT. I'm sure he had a history of being an a-hole BEFORE he killed her, only it came to fruition with her death.

It's just low class to single out such a bad murder as feminist parrotting or of insulting man. We're together on this rock, and we only fight our own species when we do it.

Ah, Freedom of Speech is a Bytch.



A-Unit