KontrollerX

[Vendetta081789]

I read you said no friends with women, just girlfriends. Let me ask you this.

If you don't make friends with women, and all your male friends have left you for women, what are you left with? NO FRIENDS! Just wanted your opinion on this. Friends are tough to come across these days.

Also, what's YOUR current opinion on LTR's?

 

[KontrollerX]

Well by saying to a chick thats pulled the LJBF card on you that you don't make "friends" with women that is just an excuse you give to her so she'll have to make a choice to either give you what you want in order to stay in your life or get lost and go suck off someother guy.

You don't actually mean that you aren't going to be friends with women you just let this chick think it or stress over it if she knows you actually are friends with women.

Its something that will fvck with her mind rather than openly and honestly communicating with her that you and she cannot be friends because you two were previously intimate and its just uncomfortable to be friends with a chick you are still into. Plus telling her you are still into her is an AFC move and the kiss of death anyway as she will see you as weak.

As for male friends leaving you for women and not being around you any longer as a result then that just means you've made AFC's for friends who make women their entire life. That means you need new friends who value your company enough to hang with you enough and don't forget you for some chick they may not be together with forever.

Even if the chick is good enough to marry the guy by his judgement and start a family with your friend should still make time to hang out with you to have a life of his own and not be entirely wrapped up with his woman as its unhealthy and will devastate him if he ever gets a divorce since his complete identity is wrapped up with her.

As for LTR's, flings or whatever the fvck I think a guy has to go for what he's currently wanting deep inside.

If its a string of meaningless sexual encounters then do that.

If its a short somewhat meaningful relationship with a shelf life of your choosing that you hope you can end kindly then do that.

If its a serious long term relationship then qualify the girl very well before proceeding with her and then do that.

I think all things a man goes for are equally valid so long as he is doing it for his expectations and not society's.

 

[Dongfu]

Its something that will fvck with her mind rather than openly and honestly communicating with her that you and she cannot be friends because you two were previously intimate and its just uncomfortable to be friends with a chick you are still into. Plus telling her you are still into her is an AFC move and the kiss of death anyway as she will see you as weak.

Isn't it kind of AFC to not be able to be friends because you are still "into her?"

Also, women are very intuitive. Unless you are a master BSer, she might sense that you are full of it, giving her further control of the situation.

I might say, "My other female friends regularly introduce me to women who they feel are qualified for me. Is that something you will be willing to do?"

You see, now you are questioning her maturity, letting her know you dont really need her, and setting up parameters for your "friendship" that are beneficial for you.

 

[KontrollerX]

"Isn't it kind of AFC to not be able to be friends because you are still "into her?"

Not at all.

If you are still into her and she does not feel the same way it would be AFC to accept her friendship secretly in the hopes that you will catch her in a fight and an emotional moment with the new boyfriend so you can nail her again.

Then a day later she hits you in the ego a second time by saying its no longer a good idea for the two of you to be friends.

Sure you got laid out of her by being a bottom feeder and settling for sloppy seconds but its got to hurt your ego and make you feel less of a man and more like a punk to nip at her heels begging and waiting for her table scraps of intimacy.

This is what being a man is all about.

Making a mature decision to cut the dead weight that does not benefit your life in the way you want it to in that moment.

And after you do that if her emotions are affected enough to come back to you and offer you a better deal then all the cards and all the power are in your hands to reject or accept her new offer.

You then hold the direction of her romantic life in your hands and not the other way around if you choose the sympering AFC route of false friendship orbiting.

Its critical to be smooth, cool or simply polite when it comes to rejecting the false friendship offer from an ex or a girl you are interested in as the angry rejection of friendship is what makes not accepting this an AFC move and kills any potential benefits the not accepting friendship policy may generate.

The only way that accepting friendship from an ex isn't some form of AFCery is if you truly want to be her friend and nothing more secretly.

"Also, women are very intuitive. Unless you are a master BSer, she might sense that you are full of it, giving her further control of the situation."

She might sense that but with women's wild out of control emotions and rapid thought process she will second guess herself constantly over this and verifiably fvck her mind up thinking about you and her situation with you.

And even if she is the rare type of woman that 100% believes her "sense" of things if you maintain no contact and she still has feelings for you it will shake her confidence and even if her confidence is never shaken you have moved on with your life and are not pining over what is worthless to your life which is the absolute message of this site concerning relationships.

"I might say, "My other female friends regularly introduce me to women who they feel are qualified for me. Is that something you will be willing to do?"

You see, now you are questioning her maturity, letting her know you dont really need her, and setting up parameters for your "friendship" that are beneficial for you."

This could be a good alternative to my advice but what if she agrees enthusiastically to this and sets you up with her friend who is warm affectionate cuddly and in her opinion is the most attractive girl that she knows but then when date night comes you find out she's 500lbs or ugly as sin? :crackup:

 

[Dongfu]

"Isn't it kind of AFC to not be able to be friends because you are still "into her?"

Not at all.

Let this last post be a lesson. When offering an alternative opinion to something KX has said, get ready, because he is probably willing to go a lot deeper into it than you are. That said, your above mentioned points are valid.

"I might say, "My other female friends regularly introduce me to women who they feel are qualified for me. Is that something you will be willing to do?"

You see, now you are questioning her maturity, letting her know you dont really need her, and setting up parameters for your "friendship" that are beneficial for you."

This could be a good alternative to my advice but what if she agrees enthusiastically to this and sets you up with her friend who is warm affectionate cuddly and in her opinion is the most attractive girl that she knows but then when date night comes you find out she's 500lbs or ugly as sin? :crackup:

She could use the opportunity to strike a low blow with a fat friend, yes. :crackup:

But in my experience, if you are sincere, she will be as well. I have fvcked a lot of my X-FB's friends, with their help. I covered some of this in my Pyramid thread.

 

[KontrollerX]

Heh heh yeah despite some of my criticism's of your teachings Master Dongfu I just want to re-iterate to all the brothers that you brought up a very valid counter argument to my equally sound advice in this thread.

So yeah Sosuavers take either my or the Master Dongfu's approach and you'll end up a winner most likely.

 

[KarmaSutra]

"Isn't it kind of AFC to not be able to be friends because you are still "into her?"

Not at all.

If you are still into her and she does not feel the same way it would be AFC to accept her friendship secretly in the hopes that you will catch her in a fight and an emotional moment with the new boyfriend so you can nail her again.
Then a day later she hits you in the ego a second time by saying its no longer a good idea for the two of you to be friends.

Sure you got laid out of her by being a bottom feeder and settling for sloppy seconds but its got to hurt your ego and make you feel less of a man and more like a punk to nip at her heels begging and waiting for her table scraps of intimacy.

Bronze. :yes:

This is what being a man is all about.

Making a mature decision to cut the dead weight that does not benefit your life in the way you want it to in that moment.

Silver. :flowers:

And after you do that if her emotions are affected enough to come back to you and offer you a better deal then all the cards and all the power are in your hands to reject or accept her new offer.

You then hold the direction of her romantic life in your hands and not the other way around if you choose the sympering AFC route of false friendship orbiting.

Its critical to be smooth, cool or simply polite when it comes to rejecting the false friendship offer from an ex or a girl you are interested in as the angry rejection of friendship is what makes not accepting this an AFC move and kills any potential benefits the not accepting friendship policy may generate.

The only way that accepting friendship from an ex isn't some form of AFCery is if you truly want to be her friend and nothing more secretly.

"Also, women are very intuitive. Unless you are a master BSer, she might sense that you are full of it, giving her further control of the situation."

She might sense that but with women's wild out of control emotions and rapid thought process she will second guess herself constantly over this and verifiably fvck her mind up thinking about you and her situation with you.

And even if she is the rare type of woman that 100% believes her "sense" of things if you maintain no contact and she still has feelings for you it will shake her confidence and even if her confidence is never shaken you have moved on with your life and are not pining over what is worthless to your life which is the absolute message of this site concerning relationships.

GOLD. :rock:

"I might say, "My other female friends regularly introduce me to women who they feel are qualified for me. Is that something you will be willing to do?"

You see, now you are questioning her maturity, letting her know you dont really need her, and setting up parameters for your "friendship" that are beneficial for you."

This could be a good alternative to my advice but what if she agrees enthusiastically to this and sets you up with her friend who is warm affectionate cuddly and in her opinion is the most attractive girl that she knows but then when date night comes you find out she's 500lbs or ugly as sin? :crackup:

PLATINUM. :cheer:

 

[Vendetta081789]

Sorry KX, I actually wanted YOUR PERSONAL opinion on LTR's. As in, what are YOU looking for. I'm not really in need of any advice, though I'm sure you are more than capable of giving it. I was just curious about you. I've noticed that what a man is interested in(LTR or Fling, or wtfe), has an impact on most peoples advice. Obviously not yours, however I was just curious.