Knowing and Doing are two different things

[Drifter]

Yeah a lot of us here have the understanding.
We know diet and workout gets us ripped, we know that applying Dj principles will get us girls.

But how many of the people here actually DO it, and how many are just totally BSing?

I see a lot of newbs on here coming on and saying "Oh yeah I went out today and got like 5 numbers no rejections."
BS.

Lemme tell you something.
I've been going around for a year since I found this board bsing myself and others.
Making myself believe just because I got a few numbers, and dated a few average girls that I was the ****.

But Suddenly I realized that all I have is understanding.
This doesnt just apply to djing, but it applies to my whole life.

I want to be a martial artist someday.
But for the past few years I havent worked out, I eat bad, and I smoke.
But Ive been kidding myself all along that suddenly it was going to magically change.

The same with girls.
I thought I "Knew it all" because I had all the dj principles down.
But yesterday me and my bud went out to the mall... I macked on two chicks and got rejected twice.
He wasnt even able to bring himself to ask any.
WE BOTH KNEW THE PRINCIPLES, AND WE THOUGHT THAT THAT JUST MAGICALLY GAVE US THE POWER.

Well folks lemme tell you, knowing and doing are two different things.
Its great that you are trying to get a greater understanding of not only Djing but life in general.

But when that understanding comes to you, dont wake up and realize how far you are from you goals like I did.

Thank god I'm only 18 and I have time to correct it... some people wait their whole lives.

Guys its time for you all (including me) to start practicing some action.
Knowledge is not enough.

As Bruce Lee said, "Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do."

Well guys this is the hardest thing I've ever done.

There are moments I tell myself I can do it, get ripped, get the chicks, get the grades, and get all my other life goals set in motion.

But remember just saying its enough isnt going to make it happen.
Trust me I've been doing it for a year now.

We have to take action!

Well I'm going to do my best to not give up.
I hope my words may have helped someone else who feels the same way...

 

[The Edge]

Originally posted by Drifter:


I see a lot of newbs on here coming on and saying "Oh yeah I went out today and got like 5 numbers no rejections."
BS.

Here we go again. The older Don Juans are ranting again.

These guys have a BAD DAY, dj-ing. They get pissed off, come back to the forum, post, and get spiritual enlightenment from GOD himself.

" If I'm failing, how is it possible that the newbies are successful"

What a load of fu*cken cra*p.

Mr. Drifter, next time you get rejected, fu*cken leave us newbies out of it. Go beat your head against the wall and let us be...

 

[radiodude]

Well.....I'm one of those who IS putting it into action. It's becoming more a 'natural' part of me now. Even when it becomes natural you still get rejected. There is no magical formula for all women.

One woman might be attracted to one particular type of guy w/ confidence, while the other is attracted to an entirely different type of guy w/ confidence. ALL women though, are attracted to masculinity. The essence of it being confidence.

 

[Donjuanpablo]

Actually, my classification of a newbie is not just someone who's new but someone who's getting nowhere with the information they get fed.

Edit: Good post nonetheless, I was somewhat agreeing with you.

[This message has been edited by Donjuanpablo (edited 12-05-2002).]

 

[Mr. Mystery]

I don't see any real newbie hating in this post, all I see is a good post.

Something alot of people here need to see, while many are putting this stuff to action, many still aren't.

I'm not gonna reply with "well I'm putting it to action," because you all could care less and don't know whether I really am or not.

I am guilty of spending too much time here in the forums, that I will admit. I won't make excuses, because nobody wants to here it, but I will get a fake ID soon and maybe that will snap me outta this forum.

All in all, a good post.

Mr. Mystery

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"Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around" - Vanilla Sky

The unexamined life is not worth living – Socrates

"Whats your favorite position? That's cool with me, it's not my favorite but I'll do it for you" - Tenacious D - Fvck her gentley

"I'd rather hear no, than never know" - Mr. Mystery himself!

Those that go searching for love, only manifest their own lovelessness. And the loveless never find love, only the loving find love. And they never have to seek for it - D.H. Lawrence

"Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive" - Van Wilder

 

[Drifter]

Originally posted by Mr. Mystery:
I don't see any real newbie hating in this post, all I see is a good post.

Something alot of people here need to see, while many are putting this stuff to action, many still aren't.

I'm not gonna reply with "well I'm putting it to action," because you all could care less and don't know whether I really am or not.

I am guilty of spending too much time here in the forums, that I will admit. I won't make excuses, because nobody wants to here it, but I will get a fake ID soon and maybe that will snap me outta this forum.

All in all, a good post.

Mr. Mystery

Thank you... someone finally got it.
I didnt make this post to HATE ON NEWBIES.

But Im saying that I am guilty, and I know a lot of others on here are guilty of not putting knowledge into action.

 

[The Edge]

Mr. Mystery and Mr. Drifter,

It's nice to know, that you guys aren't hating on the newbies. However, your comments say otherwise:

Per your quote:

" I see a lot of newbs on here coming on and saying "Oh yeah I went out today and got like 5 numbers no rejections."
BS."

What you are insinuating is that " a lot " of us come here and post false information.

For someone who has made tremendous growth since coming to this post, I find that comment a little hard to swallow.

There is nothing worse than going out there in the trenches, putting yourself out there to experience rejection until you are successful.

Then you come back here, post your success along with your failures, only to be met with a damning post like yours.

Listen!!!, I am here to learn and grow. My quest to make a difference in my life, funneled through a desire to be with beautiful women has propelled me well into the dating realm. And you know what, I am not afraid to say " I AM STILL LEARNING ".. Words that somehow elude A FEW posters once they aquire the title:

MASTER DON JUAN!!!!!

Please...Spare me.....!!!!!!!!

So, it ain't working for you???? Well you can do two things.

1. Sh*it a fu*cken ton of bricks, hide and crawl under a bed.

2. Or you can read the DJ Bible like the rest of us do, and post you failures for constructive criticism.

Don't ever Fu*cken assume anyone is in your situation until they tell you they are.

Till then quit your generalization schemes to make yourself feel better.

Newbies my a*ss!!!....I guarantee you, not everyone that comes and posts on this forum was a complete loser that had no date.

Some of us just want to fine tune ourselves and social skills, and fortunately this site allows that to happen.

BUT!!....... AND ITS A BIG BUT!!!.... ONLY FOR THE PERSON THAT SERIOUSLY PUTS ALL THESE WORDS OF ADVICE INTO ACTION...THE KEY WORD BEING ACTION!!!

So speaking from someone who has achieved success from this forum, I ask you once again to watch your words. I can't tell you what to write, nor am I asking you to stop writing.

However, belittling us newbies will get you nowhere in your endeavors..

Think about that!!!!

 

[RKTek]

"Just be yourself" is what you should do but only AFTER you internalize the DJ principles to the point that they ARE "you".

It is one thing to be the same old you but with a few new techniques. It is another to have the techniques ingrained to the point that they have made the old you "new". It's like reading a book on how to play the piano versus actually siting down for weeks, months and years to actually LEARN TO PLAY the piano. Some then learn the piano and some songs so well they no longer have to look at the music, rather it just 'comes' to them.

To me learning the DJ way is like learning to play the piano. You have to get out there and practice, practice, practice. Yes you'll make mistakes, but the goal is to have it all internalized.

As far as getting rejections even when you're an 'expert', it is arrogant to think that you can be so good as to change someone else's mind. Some people will dislike you, regardless of how expert you are. There are very beautiful women out there who are only attracted to losers. Pamela Anderson marrying Tommy Lee are just one example. I myself have dated some very beautiful women who turned out to have extremely low self esteem and found my confidence intimidating.

When a girl says 'no' to my requests for her phone number because she's secretly intimidated by my boldness is doing us both a favor very early on.

 

[stuartSan]

Don Juan Tips.

 

[Mr. Mystery]

The Edge:
I don't come here to piss others off, I come here to help others if possible.

You seem to have taken a great deal of offense to what Drifter said. All I said is that it was a good post that was not directed at newbie bashing, he simply wanted to remind those that aren't getting out there and doing need to get off their a$$ and start taking action.

You seem to care much more about the "master don juan" than others. You seem to beleive that when a poster gets this title that they start posting articles celebrating themselves rather than helping others. I find it quite the contrary to this.

"I AM STILL LEARNING ".. Words that somehow elude A FEW posters once they aquire the title: MASTER DON JUAN" please re-read my original responce to this post and you will find me OPENLY ADMITTING that I am not a "Master DJ"

Calm down, you shouldn't get so offendec from a post on the internet, especially if it wasn't even directed at you.

Mr. Mystery

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"Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around" - Vanilla Sky

The unexamined life is not worth living – Socrates

"Whats your favorite position? That's cool with me, it's not my favorite but I'll do it for you" - Tenacious D - Fvck her gentley

"I'd rather hear no, than never know" - Mr. Mystery himself!

Those that go searching for love, only manifest their own lovelessness. And the loveless never find love, only the loving find love. And they never have to seek for it - D.H. Lawrence

"Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive" - Van Wilder

[This message has been edited by Mr. Mystery (edited 12-03-2002).]

 

[Awkward]

Very good post. I am a sitting butt and doesn't do so much action. Great motivator.

But that **** about 5 successfull numbercloses isn't bull****.

By the way I got the number from a 7,5 or something in 2.30 minutes... beat that!

Just wanted to brag a little before this mediocre PU places himself in the front line ready to be shot down again and again and again.



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