Kissing class Sh!t does not work, let's just go for the kill....

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Alright, this is about my neighbour. Let's call her Next Door Neighbour (NDN) She is hot, sexy ( with make-ups on), I'll give her an 8 but a 6 without makeup. Anyway, she has a boyfriend at a moment. They don't live together and he lives quite far away, as far as I know. We talked several times about everyday stuff but whenever I tried to discuss her relationship with her boyfriend, she tried pushing it aside and says she does not want to talk about it. So, one day I was going to school... as I was about to leave my room, there she was--coming down the staircase. We exchanged greetings. Then she asked where I was going and I told her School. She said cool let me drop you off. My initial thought was, that'll be nice since she goes to the same school, it's highly likely that she going to school as well; but I later found later on that did not have class that day at all, and "just got bored and wanted to go to school to read"

Anyway, on the way to School....
Amoka: How is your boyfriend.
NDN: I don't like talking about it.
Amoka: Why is that, are you ashame of him?
NDN: No, I just don't like to talk about him.
Amoka: Alright, what is his name.
---( Folks, this guy is a very shy person. In fact, whenever he visits her and they are going out today, he lets her go spy the neighbourhood to ensure no one is watching them being together. Sometimes, he stays in the room 5-10 mins after she has already left. By the way, she did not tell me this about him. Another neighbour disclosed his observations to me since I was new to the place).
NDN: No, he is shy..
Amoka: I know, so you cannot tell me his name because he is shy?
NDN: Yes.
Amoka: Cool, so how is your relationship with him.
NDN: Actually, I dont know. I've been asking him to do some things if he does not do it, I'll see.
Amoka: What are those things? [Actually, I should not have asked her this question but rather made it into a ****y and funny statement but dropped the bomb already so, I'll have to fix it later]
NDN: Something personal. [ Now folks, one thing you should know is this girl is a "gold digger" ( from a trusted source). The guy is a businesmen who owns a store ( source? from NDN )
Amoka: Are you one of those that set ultimatum for guys and if they don't follow, you ditch them?
NDN: No... nothing like that...
Cool, we ended up exchanging phone numbers before I go dropped off at the school. Oh, by the way she is from Taiwan, and the guy is from Afghanistan...

So, I waited and called her one friday evening. She picked up and said she is home cooking so I should come. Unfortunately, I ate before calling her but I can't refuse extral bit! I went to her apartment about 45mins later and when I got there, she make nice meal and served a portion for me. woah!! Well, I was only able to eat minimum portion of the meal since I already ate before.

Anyway after the meal, I asked her to come dancing with me. He showed no hesitation at all. I game her 10 mins to get prepared so we can leave. 10 mins later, she was ready wainting for me in front of my door ready to leave. We went to the dancing class and had a blast!

On our way, he interest level got very high that she was touching me like I'm "her man". Sh!t, I should have gone for the k!ss right there. But sh!t, I blew it. While in the car, she was relunctant on even going home. Then I dropped the bomb:
Amoka: Tell, assuming your in a k!ssing class, on a scale of 1 to 10 what you'd you get.
NDN: Well, we're not in a k!ssing class so I don't know.
Amoka:[ Acted another AFC act here] Assuming, you are in a kissing class.
NDN: I don't know.
Amoka: Alright, come here and I'll show you.
NDN: No. Let's go home. [Sh!t, I easily could have nail that girl even in the car at that particular moment] [ Mind you, this girl is non-American. She is also shy as hell. But could not read that signal.]

We went home, we were supposed to watch a movie at my place but she even does not want to anymore. She's virtually trying to avoid me now. A good damage controlled stratagy is needed for situations such as this. Any ideas?
 

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Um, her boyfriend isn't shy. He's married to another woman. Pretty obvious.

And that kiss class thing seems like it would only work on a westernized girl.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Um, her boyfriend isn't shy. He's married to another woman. Pretty obvious.

And that kiss class thing seems like it would only work on a westernized girl.
I agree with you. However, I don't think her boyfriend is married. She goes to his place once in a while and frankly, whenever he comes to visit her, he circles around the neighbourhood to ensure nobody is outside watching him. Very weird...
 

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her boyfriend might have a crime he's convicted for and he doesn't want anyone to see him and report him!!!

seriously, that really is what it is
 

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dude - a guy who is described as a business man and who own's stores - does not circle around the building to ensure no one is watching.

How rediculous is that.

Seriously.

He's either married - or has a GF.

He's checking to make sure no one is around (doesn't want to be seen with her).

The personal thing that he needs to do, is to get out of the relationship - that's why it's not really an ultimatum (or rather a logical one).

the fact that she goes to his place means nothing. his place could me a hotel - or a weekend away. or perhaps his GF is out of town on those days.


this shy business is just a load of crap.
 

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Alright folks, I agree. It could be that her boyfriend either have a wife or a girlfriend. Now, is there anything I could do to get to me. BTW, on our way home from the dancing class, she said "Amoka, you see in Taiwan, women don't kiss men that are not thier husbands or boyfriends" I did not respond to that comment. I completely ignored it and switched the subject. Damage Control needs to be done....
 

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no damage control needs to be done.

Just do what you do. Don't appologize for the way you are.

Just act normally around her - and play it form there.
 

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Oh, Taiwan!

It takes forever to get those girls to kiss.

I'm seeing a southern chinese girl right now, in the second month, who still won't kiss me near a window!
 

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afganistan... he is a terrorist...or a married terrorist.
 

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warpy said:
afganistan... he is a terrorist...or a married terrorist.
No no no, I doubt it. I think he is just simply shy....
 

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Amoka...

Why are you so concerned about her boyfriend (unless he was extremely dangerous)?

You ask her LOT of questions about her boyfriend. It is as if you are too interested in him. Do you think she is not going to eventually tell him?

If you are interested in her, then focus on her.

And the "kissing game" thing rarely works with any mature woman. How can you expect to up the attraction when all you do is INSIST on talking about her man?

Do you want to become her girlfriend?

Note:

Girl: "you see in Taiwan, women don't kiss men that are not thier husbands or boyfriends"

Latinoman: "Thank you for letting me know so I'm aware when I go to Taiwan! Now, how would you feel if I introduce you to the American way? And you be the judge."
 

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Latinoman said:
Amoka...

Why are you so concerned about her boyfriend (unless he was extremely dangerous)?

You ask her LOT of questions about her boyfriend. It is as if you are too interested in him. Do you think she is not going to eventually tell him?

If you are interested in her, then focus on her.

And the "kissing game" thing rarely works with any mature woman. How can you expect to up the attraction when all you do is INSIST on talking about her man?

Do you want to become her girlfriend?

Note:

Girl: "you see in Taiwan, women don't kiss men that are not thier husbands or boyfriends"

Latinoman: "Thank you for letting me know so I'm aware when I go to Taiwan! Now, how would you feel if I introduce you to the American way? And you be the judge."
I see. Thanks RT
 

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Latinoman said:
Amoka...

Why are you so concerned about her boyfriend (unless he was extremely dangerous)?

You ask her LOT of questions about her boyfriend. It is as if you are too interested in him. Do you think she is not going to eventually tell him?

If you are interested in her, then focus on her.

And the "kissing game" thing rarely works with any mature woman. How can you expect to up the attraction when all you do is INSIST on talking about her man?

Do you want to become her girlfriend?

Note:

Girl: "you see in Taiwan, women don't kiss men that are not thier husbands or boyfriends"

Latinoman: "Thank you for letting me know so I'm aware when I go to Taiwan! Now, how would you feel if I introduce you to the American way? And you be the judge."
I see. Thanks Latinoman
 
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