Kiss and next date

[Myrrdin]

Hello gents,

I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. I've been seeing this girl for the past 2 months. We went on a few dates and 3 nights ago, after a lovely outing at a local coffee shop I made my move and kissed her. Basically it went like this: We were walking along and when we were supposed to part we started talking and after a few minutes I tool her into my arms and said: "Go home, you're boring me (grin)" and she said "That's why you're holding me into your arms.". I gently approached her lips and kissed her. It wasn't a full blown make out just a kiss. After this, she just pulled away smiling and she left.

My question is: when on the next date (assuming there will be one) should I just kiss her the first time I see her or start from scratch with kino?

 

[dry]

i believe when you see her again you gatta start over, open, vibe, isolate then you can do what ever you want with her. keep pursing her job is to pace you be shameless.
what i would consider doing is after isolated start escalating like peck her lips out of the blue and dont initiate it and just continue with a different topic or story
Often girls will be confused, excited, a
little angry, whatever. She’s experiencing a range
of emotions.
I let her feel those emotions as I downshift into
normal conversation for 1-2 minutes. Then I start
some light, innocent touching (e.g., hand caressing,
hair stroking) and go for a Blockbuster-style makeout.
This little move is SO money because it sparks
so many emotions. Also it’s really fun—TRY IT!

 

[Chickfight]

How did it take you two months to kiss?
Anyway, DON'T go for the kiss as soon as you see her. Only real "official" gf/bfs do that. Just do your thing, don't even mention the kiss at all. The bar has been set, so if she's interested in kissing you, you'll know.

 

[Myrrdin]

will probably do that. If she gives signs that she wants to be kissed from the start, I'll move in for the kill. Thanks

 

[runner83]

2 months?

Holy sh*t!

Good to see you took the initiative. Now keep it moving along.

 

[f283000]

Anyway, DON'T go for the kiss as soon as you see her. Only real "official" gf/bfs do that.

bull_____

Just do your thing

This is better. Let it be natural just remember that there's no such rule as when to kiss. No such thing as "don't kiss her when you see her cause she ain't your gf yet" that's the dumbest thing i ever heard.

Waiting for the "perfect" time or being afraid is the reason it took you 2 months to get a damn kiss.

don't even mention the kiss at all. The bar has been set, so if she's interested in kissing you, you'll know.

You need to be aggressive and be spontaneous. Aggressive in that you ain't going to wait all your life till she puts up a sign that says "kiss me," and spontaneous being that you won't do it in a way that will make it seem coming from a mile away that might creep her out/give her a chance to escape.

It's as simple as sitting next to her real close and giving her a kiss when she least expects it and holding it. She likely won't put up a fight specially if you been doing kino on her throughout the date.

 

[Myrrdin]

It took me 2 months because she's kinda shy and conservative. Also in those 2 months we went out 3 times.

So just go for it in a very elegant and machiavellian fashion

 

[ARrocket]

Ok so I'm wasted so take what I say with a grain of salt.

No fvck that, I'm still a stud when wasted. Here's what's up...you have been seeing her for two months, and you have JUST now kissed her. F that bro....you need to ISOLATE and ESCALATE!!!!

(dude...wtf I say that same exact sentence in every single fvcking post on here). Because ppl don't follow it!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have been dating her for 2 months...what's another "date" gonna do...increase her interest level? NO!!!! She is already interested, going to see some lame-ass movie isn't going to make her more interested.

You need to bring her over to your place. To watch a movie, play some Mario Kart, WHATEVER! She likes you, so this shouldn't be hard. Get her over. Have some alcohol. Make a move. BOOM! That's it. If you don't do this soon, she's gonna lose interest. TRUST ME!!!!!!

You don't want her to be bored. YOU are the man and YOU need to grab your balls and make a damn move. You can do it! Just do it! You will have some success, realize how lame you have been for not making moves all along, and your life will be transformed and you will never ask these sort of questions on SoSuave again! Instead, you will be the one giving the advice

EDIT: Ok I'll admit, I make it seem like you're going for a quick lay in my post here. But even if you're not and you are interested in a RELATIONSHIP, I STILL think you ought to make this sort of move here! Remember, girls like sex too, so you don't want her waiting too long. I mean the real world isn't some movie on Lifetime or the Hallmark channel, you have to initiate if you want anything to happen. Unless you are one of those dudes who doesn't want to have sex until they are married, in which case, go on doing what you're doing. But if you want to bone her now, REGARDLESS of whether you want a relationship or not, you REALLY have to drop this whole "courtship" thing and just make a damn move!

 

[rushing dude 123]

Well done on finally attempting a kiss close, but seriously two months? It's going to be hard to escalate with this girl, seeing is expecting your escalation to be slow. I should think two dates (better the first though) should be suffice, because remember bro you are not trying to b her friend, so thats why she ended up treating u like one.

However i still have faith in you and you can bring it back, i have kissed girls and they have pulled away from me after the date. Next date straight at the start the girl put her arms around me and gave me a nice big one on the lips. If you fail it's not over, it actually makes it easier to try again. It can go like first kiss fail...10 mins later try again...success... Also sometimes a girl can pull away you can pull away look at her again and go again and you may get it if the moment is right.

ps. Shy girls like kisses as well.....it actually can make them open up more, because once u kissed someone u can't really be shy around them can you lol

 

[Myrrdin]

Bummer,

went out again. When we met she gave me the cheek, so no chance for kiss.

At the end of the date I tried to kiss her. She gave me the cheek again and said "No, no. We need to talk about this." Me: "I really don't feel like talking.". Her: "Me neither, yet. Not now. Next time." And we parted ways.

Learn my lesson. Close earlier. More KINO.

Next?

Question: How do you kino coffee dates? My guess would be to sit next to her from the start (isn't that forcing the issue?) and not across the table

 

[rushing dude 123]

My "advice" is Walk away, don't necessairly give her an ultimatum just tell her look it dosn't seem to be working, i thought me and you maybe had something i guess i was wrong and i am not the type of guy that is going to get stringed along so sorry. She will either come running to you or maybe friend zone you. At least you know where you stand.

Don't waste too much time move on, there is like billions of hawwwwt girls out there that need some action so don't sit there for the rest of eternity battling with your life just to get a kiss close with this one.

This is my advice, but remember it's just advice go with what your gutt feels is right.

Kino:

Hm punch her arm when joking with her (lightly please haha), play like thumb war or something, brush her shoulder with your arm as you sit next to her. If her hair is in her eyes just slide it the side of the ear. Maybe she has a ring on her hand, pick her hand up and ask her about it. U know nice and subtle just get more comfortable and have fun. I think when you are having fun you automatically kino without even knowing. Also sitting next to her shouldn't be a problem it makes it more easier to communicate and more friendly rather than the sitting across interview position.

 

[Tovansky]

I don't know dude, usually for me I don't think too much whether to kiss or not. Believe it or not 90% of girls would offer you a cheek to kiss when parted ways (I learned this from experience, and almost all girls are like that, amazing right?). So What I did was kiss the cheek and smoothly (and quickly) and gently push her other cheek so I can kiss her lips. It worked for me 90% of the time, should work with you guys. Don't make such a big deal over kiss, like it was a must-do or something.

It's not the women's call to kiss or not to kiss, it's ours.

 

[Myrrdin]

We're going out again. She knows my intentions. This is getting challenging. I like it...

It's gonna be make or break this time. Smoochin' or bust. No friends. PERIOD!

Gonna take rushing_dude's advice. Thx m8

 

[Kailex]

I smell LJBF.
And if you are LJBF'ed just agree and say: Yeah, I don't think it would have worked out either.

Then ask her if she has any friends with a hot body that she can maybe introduce you to.



But to be honest, if she avoided you kissing her and said that you two "have to talk"... it's an incoming LJBF.

Start looking at PROSPECTS.
Not one... but a few.

You need to be dating more women.

 

[Myrrdin]

All right,

she refused the kiss again 5 days ago, I backed off. Kept myself unavailable and scarce.

Today she approached me on IM and after some smal talk the convo went like this:

Her: Are you mad with me?
Me: No, I'm cool.
Her: You sure?
Me: Yeah, totally. Why you ask?
Her: Because you seemed a little distant lately... Are you sure you're not upset with me or something?
Me: Nah, I'm not upset.
Her: But something's wrong...
Me: Nope, no negative feelings whatsoever...
Her: Oh, all right

Thoughts? Shall I pursue?

 

[Myrrdin]

ideas?

 

[Igetit!]

At the end of the date I tried to kiss her. She gave me the cheek again and said "No, no. We need to talk about this." Me: "I really don't feel like talking.". Her: "Me neither, yet. Not now. Next time." And we parted ways.

Uh oh.

Uuuuuh oh. You got the "We need to talk" line from the girl? Already?

You've gotten the "We need to talk" line from someone you're not even in a relationship with? Uhhh....that's not good man.


If she wants to have a "serious" talk with you over kissing,then you missed the boat somewhere man. You either missed the boat somewhere in your interactions with her,or there's another guy in the picture.

All right,

she refused the kiss again 5 days ago, I backed off. Kept myself unavailable and scarce.

So your response to her refusing to kiss you was basically no contact,right?


Hmm. I suppose that could work....however,I probably would have went about things a different way. I think I would have thrown some attract type material at her. I would have done that,or I simply would have just moved on.




If she's willing to get herself together to go out on a date with you,then there must be some interest on her part somewhere,but it seems like it needs to be increased,so I'd go back to flirting,teasing,tossing in some kino and some sexual innunedo and see how she responds.

Today she approached me on IM and after some smal talk the convo went like this:

Her: Are you mad with me?
Me: No, I'm cool.
Her: You sure?
Me: Yeah, totally. Why you ask?
Her: Because you seemed a little distant lately... Are you sure you're not upset with me or something?
Me: Nah, I'm not upset.
Her: But something's wrong...
Me: Nope, no negative feelings whatsoever...
Her: Oh, all right

Were you telling her the truth? Were you being completely honest about you not being mad or upset with her?


You sure you're not a little mad or erked over her refusing to kiss you?

This is the forum,you can be honest with us. We can't help you if you're not.



This is what I mean when I keep saying that women are EMOTIONAL.


They're NOT STUPID. They can "sense" when someone is feeling an emotion.

ideas?

Well if you're still interested in dating her,you need to generate some more attraction in her. It's either that,move on,or get used to having these grandma cheek kissing sessions with her.


So flirt,teasing,compliment her (the right way),use sexual talk to show your desire for her. Basically escalate. If all the flirting,teasing and compliments go over well,then try holding her hand or holding her in your arms. If she's cool with that,then I'd go for the kiss. If after all that she still refuses to kiss you,just try to enjoy the date the best you can,then after it's over,just don't call her anymore.

 

[GoodButNotGreat]

yeah i would just "talk" with her and tell her you want to get physical with her..seems like she wants to talk things thru before you do them so just lead her with your words to what you're going to do with her..she is interested so i wouldnt rule her out just yet. i would basically tell her what i want and if shes receptive go for it...just do it man