Karma of hypergamy

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Great scene from Blue Valentine

Women that marry men for status and resources often end up miserable. I have seen this many times in my life. My mother married my father because of his professional status. This blinded her. She ended up stuck with a man that is abusive NPD ( narcissistic personality disorder). The money and lifestyle pales in comparison to the other stuff.

I have an ex gf who after we broke up got pregnant for her beta bux. She totally ignored this dude for years and when the wall came closer she latched on to him. Apparently he had access to a ton of family money. Well fast forward and they are no longer together and she is not happy with the situation. She admitted that she didnt want to leave him because he had a nice house and fancy stuff.


The most important characteristic to look for in a husband is character. The money will come if the guy has good character. It's better to live a lower middle class lifestyle and have a happy home than to live rich and be miserable. I know a girl who married a guy who is not rich but has an amazing personality. She is happy.

The same goes for men. We over emphasize the looks aspects of a female when we are supposed to be looking at character. In summary, Karma ends up catching up with many of these hypergamous females. When your base you life decisions on vanity and ego you always pay a price.
 
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Anyone who pursues the material as a source for their happiness will always end up miserable because material things are ultimately empty. This is why I absolutely will not date women who even start to come across as gold diggers and why money is so dangerous when it comes to attracting a woman. The last thing any man should have in his life is a severely materialistic or narcissistic woman.

Even though I understand the importance of character, it's still very difficult to prevent my hind brain from wanting to pickup and bang some sexy young thing who smiles at me, even though I have a meaningful relationship with a woman who is objectively good.
 

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Great scene from Blue Valentine

Women that marry men for status and resources often end up miserable. I have seen this many times in my life. My mother married my father because of his professional status. This blinded her. She ended up stuck with a man that is abusive NPD ( narcissistic personality disorder). The money and lifestyle pales in comparison to the other stuff.

I have an ex gf who after we broke up got pregnant for her beta bux. She totally ignored this dude for years and when the wall came closer she latched on to him. Apparently he had access to a ton of family money. Well fast forward and they are no longer together and she is not happy with the situation. She admitted that she didnt want to leave him because he had a nice house and fancy stuff.


The most important characteristic to look for in a husband is character. The money will come if the guy has good character. It's better to live a lower middle class lifestyle and have a happy home than to live rich and be miserable. I know a girl who married a guy who is not rich but has an amazing personality. She is happy.

The same goes for men. We over emphasize the looks aspects of a female when we are supposed to be looking at character. In summary, Karma ends up catching up with many of these hypergamous females. When your base you life decisions on vanity and ego you always pay a price.
love it
 

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Anyone who pursues the material as a source for their happiness will always end up miserable because material things are ultimately empty. This is why I absolutely will not date women who even start to come across as gold diggers and why money is so dangerous when it comes to attracting a woman. The last thing any man should have in his life is a severely materialistic or narcissistic woman.

Even though I understand the importance of character, it's still very difficult to prevent my hind brain from wanting to pickup and bang some sexy young thing who smiles at me, even though I have a meaningful relationship with a woman who is objectively good.
To me, women that show off expensive tat are totally unattractive. I just seem them as stupid and ignorant.
 
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I have an ex gf who after we broke up got pregnant for her beta bux. She totally ignored this dude for years and when the wall came closer she latched on to him. Apparently he had access to a ton of family money. Well fast forward and they are no longer together and she is not happy with the situation. She admitted that she didnt want to leave him because he had a nice house and fancy stuff.
Already know this is going to happen to at least two irl people. I'm waiting to laugh when it does.
 

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Most guys learn this and end up with a 6 or 7 who is nice to them and can cook. It would be wonderful if hot chicks were nice and accomplished. It's unfortunately simple - they don't have to be.
 

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Misery is the natural state of women. The only thing that makes women satisfied (not happy) is having children. That's it. Everything else is dogpoo. Women don't love men. It's impossible for women to love men. "Love" is a bullcrap gynocentric concept designed to make men simp and serve women. Men really need to sort their sh1t out and figure this out.
I am starting to believe this to be true. I thought virgins were exceptions to this rule. I am talking to a virgin. She is also miserable. I was planning on making a separate post on this topic to flush out some ideas. It is rare to find a woman who has a liad back whimsical attitude. Its not as rare to find a man that is chill. When they get what they want they are miserable, when they dont get what they want they are more miserable lol.

Most of them seem to have some sort of mood regulation issue. Most men are stable throughout the day. Women are not. This is a main reason for why they cant be consistently happy.
 

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It’s too late , we’re already doomed.
Looks money and status takes over but there is also a deeper issue that doesn’t get talked about as much.
Studies show that men’s testosterone levels are shrinking dramatically year by year this means a decrease in dikk size, height ,and social dominance /aggression.
Women are becoming more and more competitive tryna to outdo us on everything they can and prove they are just as good if not better , this is not natural .
the top 10-20% don’t want us to climb up, because that means they will have to share. There should be enough money and women to go around tenfold, I don’t know what the problem is
I would advise any man on this forum to get his testosterone levels checked, fix his diet and exercise daily and go out and talk to women.
 

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It’s too late , we’re already doomed.
Looks money and status takes over but there is also a deeper issue that doesn’t get talked about as much.
Studies show that men’s testosterone levels are shrinking dramatically year by year this means a decrease in dikk size, height ,and social dominance /aggression.
Women are becoming more and more competitive tryna to outdo us on everything they can and prove they are just as good if not better , this is not natural .
the top 10-20% don’t want us to climb up, because that means they will have to share. There should be enough money and women to go around tenfold, I don’t know what the problem is
I would advise any man on this forum to get his testosterone levels checked, fix his diet and exercise daily and go out and talk to women.
it is not that THEY do not want us to climb up. the way to become top 10 or 20% is to demonstrate beating the 80 or 90%. it is NOT how good you are, it is how much better(more dominant) you are than others in view. A number of other posters have been pointing out how winning direct competition is a big plus to our attraction for most women at a biological level.

if the top helps you much, it not only makes you a competitor, but they lose perceived value from women by doing it.
 

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Remove everything you've written and leave in "Women start-off and end up miserable." - Female Misery serves the purpose of sucking Men into a endless battle of trying to make his woman happy. This fulfills the female goal of having male servants that keep her safe, while she's secretly getting donkey-punched and triple-creampied by Alphas. If you don't believe that this is how women truly behave, then it's because you're a Beta and women are hiding their behavior from you and playing to your Madonna-complex.

Misery is the natural state of women. The only thing that makes women satisfied (not happy) is having children. That's it. Everything else is dogpoo. Women don't love men. It's impossible for women to love men. "Love" is a bullcrap gynocentric concept designed to make men simp and serve women. Men really need to sort their sh1t out and figure this out.
What if you encounter a woman who never wants kids?
 

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Women that marry men for status and resources often end up miserable.

The most important characteristic to look for in a husband is character.
Does marriage even make sense in 2021?

The man is signing a LEGAL contract. A contract where the woman can put him down (legally), withhold sex (legally), divorce him (legally), cause him massive amounts of grief and take half his money (legally and with society‘s blessing), and the man cannot have sex with any younger or hotter girl at anytime or else he will be crucified financially and socially forever. Good deal for women isn’t it?

Marriage used to make sense, but the laws have changed so much and have given women so much power that it doesn’t anymore. Plus, if a woman loves a man, why does she need to marry him? She will be with him forever and forever right? It’s because if the man wants out, he will have to “pay a penalty”. That and the factor of “fitting in with society.” So much for love.

Now for the argument “well you don’t want to be alone at 50.” Yes, no wants to be alone. But if a man 42 and marries a 35 year old. In 5 years she decides she wants out, or dies, or cheats. Now she has left him and he is back in the same position he was at 42.

But hey, do want you want.
 

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Remove everything you've written and leave in "Women start-off and end up miserable." - Female Misery serves the purpose of sucking Men into a endless battle of trying to make his woman happy. This fulfills the female goal of having male servants that keep her safe, while she's secretly getting donkey-punched and triple-creampied by Alphas. If you don't believe that this is how women truly behave, then it's because you're a Beta and women are hiding their behavior from you and playing to your Madonna-complex.

Misery is the natural state of women. The only thing that makes women satisfied (not happy) is having children. That's it. Everything else is dogpoo. Women don't love men. It's impossible for women to love men. "Love" is a bullcrap gynocentric concept designed to make men simp and serve women. Men really need to sort their sh1t out and figure this out.

Although difficult to swallow i have to agree , I've seen and heard far too much

A girl ive known for many years is a 24 yr old single mother ..... she's still hot maybe as high as an 8 in some guys book

She's constantly depressed though she tells me quite a lot about what's been going on since the baby daddy left

she was telling me how terrible her life is and it seems like it has no purpose

Then she tells me she doesn't think men value her as highly as they used too and if i could rate her out of 10

Finally i was offered a couple of booty calls which i declined

This example led me to the train of thought the females ultimate desire is to be wanted / needed or used and would explain why attention and desire is like crack cocaine to them

I often wondered why women engage in so many threesomes, foursomes, gang bangs etc ( all common female fetish's )

Its because these sexual activities arouse all 3 of them pleasure zones in her mind probably to the same degree a man is aroused by a woman in sexy lingerie

Another good example would be a woman stealing another woman's man ( another fetish ) .....i don't believe they do this because they want the man it's to prove to herself she can have him
 

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This example led me to the train of thought the females ultimate desire is to be wanted / needed or used and would explain why attention and desire is like crack cocaine to them
if you look on social media now, they write essays about the guys who messed them around, these are pure facts in this thread.
 

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It truly can be quite shocking when you notice how huge and fragile the female ego is when it relates to attention and "being wanted", as you say.

It is such a deep and strong desire they have for attention, that it is utterly depraved. Instagram obsession is just one aspect of it. Can a real man truly comprehend the female obsession with Instagram? Women literally spend hours scrolling through it every day, looking at photos, looking at the "lifestyle porn" and getting angry that other women are getting more "attention crack" than she is.

Relating to threesomes/foursomes etc. In the female fantasy it's almost always multiple men banging her. It's never sharing a man with multiple women. It gets even worse. Often these multiple-male gangbang fantasies will involve male homosexuality as part of the fetish. If you delve into female erotic fan fiction, it often involves gaysh1t. It's creepy as hell when you realise that many women are turned on by male homosexuality (which explains why women are so gay-friendly, and why faggots need to be removed from society. Gays have an incredibly toxic influence on women).

A new topic for thought - Gays are responsible for much of the ruin of modern women, alongside the hopeless heterosexual male simping pandemic.
This post made me burst out laughing lol

Not sure i share such strong views on the homo's they are irritating but largely stay out of my way , although rare the worst is when i run into a set and theres a homo there you almost have to win the homo over first before the females will consider sleeping with you

Homos seem to be akin to alpha females

RE insta obsession - no i cannot comprehend it i keep deleting it but i need to use it a lot for my work so its a catch 22 for me

on a personal level i cannot stand social media but yet i feel like i am trapped in it

Mind blown.
 

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To me, women that show off expensive tat are totally unattractive. I just seem them as stupid and ignorant.
Back in the summer bumped into a few of the 'WAG' type mums and their daughters at a theme park. Really physically attractive (although can tell makeup hiding aging) so may sound odd but did feel a bit embarrassed walking around with them, with their ostentatious expensive bags, clothes and general demeanor of how they held themselves, could tell they were trying to draw attention. Daughter goes to decent private school so imagine their husbands are loaded through their business ventures. Luckily it was late in the day, so went home soon after.

Goes to show money can;t buy class.
 
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