Just a little observation.

[dakota]

Brando SC,
It seems to me that there are two universes on this website. I will not characterize them as good or bad.. they just are what they are. In one universe the guys are all about the single goal of acheiving sex and using whatever is needed to acheive that goal. The other universe deals with a more deaper relationship with the opposite sex. The thing is neither universe can conceive of how the other one thinks as long as they are in it. I myself think " why the heck would I only want to sex as an objective?".. But others proably think.. why would dakota NOT want sex as the untimate objective.
Nowadays it seems that the "only sex" posters are more numerous, or at least post more. It would be nicer if they were a bit quiter but they simply do not hear what we say.

 

[Brando SC]

Yeah, that's what's seems to have happened. I like you're two universe metaphor. That really puts in into perspective. The two universes don't really understand each other, and therefore it just causes a rift in the forum that makes it near impossible for it to acheive what it has in the past. Back then the guys cared about helping each other out. Ideas bounced back and forth and were refined. New ideas came forth and people took old basic concepts and put them in different ways. You could come on here and honestly find something good to read and learn from in almost every single post. Now honestly there's not a lot good to read, unless an old thread happens to get bumped up, with the occassional good new post. Another things, is I hear all this complaint about AFCs clogging up the forum with bad advice and not being able to take advice/critizism from the other guys. This is partly because like i said a little bit earlier, the guys don't care about each other like they used to. People back in the day would give advice, but they wouldn't be harsh about. Yes, sometimes they'd be blunt and out right about things, but it wasn't taken in an offensive manner. As for the AFCs not taking advice, they don't have much to read from here anymore. I mean, yeah they have the bible and other old posts with excellent information, but there's no one writing current ideas, posts about improving, or helping the game out. There's a very little output when it comes to new posts that are truly helpful to the AFC who knows very little or is just starting out. Hopefully like always time will heal all and perhaps some real progress will be made.

 

[reallyfreakinlost]

"sex only universe"? "relations only universe?" Ok I get what you're saying, but it really doesn't have to be this way, I mean, in my opinion, like brando said, if the relationship is meaningful enough, then sex would be better. Am I saying only going for sex is wrong? Of course not, but if you're only going for sex, you're only receiving 25% of what girls have to offer.

 

[Brando SC]

"sex only universe"? "relations only universe?" Ok I get what you're saying, but it really doesn't have to be this way, I mean, in my opinion, like brando said, if the relationship is meaningful enough, then sex would be better. Am I saying only going for sex is wrong? Of course not, but if you're only going for sex, you're only receiving 25% of what girls have to offer.

Very well put. That's exactly what i'm going for. Especially the last part.

 

[Sean O]

It seems to me that there are two universes on this website. I will not characterize them as good or bad.. they just are what they are. In one universe the guys are all about the single goal of acheiving sex and using whatever is needed to acheive that goal. The other universe deals with a more deaper relationship with the opposite sex. The thing is neither universe can conceive of how the other one thinks as long as they are in it. I myself think " why the heck would I only want to sex as an objective?".. But others proably think.. why would dakota NOT want sex as the untimate objective.
Nowadays it seems that the "only sex" posters are more numerous, or at least post more. It would be nicer if they were a bit quiter but they simply do not hear what we say.

Very well put. One thing I particularly agree with is how one side can't empathize with the other's goals. The "sex people" think that SoSuave is all about getting sex, and the "relationship people" think that SoSuave is about learning to find a meaningful relationship. However, here's how I would define the purpose of SoSuave: SoSuave.com exists to help men become adept at dealing with women in a non-platonic way. That's the universal goal here. What you get out of your interactions with women is up to the individual, though.

 

[Sean O]

These guys should go out and fk as many women as they want, so that they will realize that sex aint shyt.

 

[robrulesyou]

I've been here for a long time. Since August 2002, although i'm under a new name know. But i sort of left the forum for a while and lost my password. Anyway I came back, and i just don't understand this. It seems like a lot of guys on here are all about getting sex. That's the ultimate goal. While, sure getting sex is nice, but that's not what this is all about. Or at least that's not what it used to be all about. It just sort of irks me a little to read all these guys talking like that's what they're in it for. This is about honestly improving yourself and your game, not about increasing the number of notches in your bedpost. I guess i'm just one of those guys that's looking for something more than sex. Maybe actually meeting girls not to boink them, but to really just meet and learn about different people and maybe if i'm fortunate, fall in love. Because life is about people. The more people you meet and get to know, the more you learn about yourself and grow. Well anyway, that's my little rant. Feel free to comment back.

I said I'd leave but I want to post some rants while i'm at it.

The reason I think most guys are all about sex here? It seems 99% of these losers don't have or have never had sex! LMAo!

Yea for guys like you (op) and me, sex is not a big deal. taht's why we like something more meaningful. I bet if I was a virgin or had sex maybe like 3 times a year I'd probably be all about how to get sex too.

One thing I've learned is that the guys who talk most about sex aren't getting much. The guys who talk least about it, it isn't a big deal for them. There are excseptions to, like me, I want lots of sex now to get over my breakup but other than that, I want meaningful connections with people.

 

[The Truth]

Perhaps you're right. But i don't know... I think i might be a little mature for my age. I'm only 19, but i really like meeting women with good attitudes and shared interests. I don't know, i've always just been into meeting people and getting to know them. Who knows, i just wanted to pose that thought.

Dude, DO NOT let this forum destroy that ideal for you. You have a lot of cynical guys here who believe women are the enemy, who believe love and relationships are wrong and sex is a goal to be proud of. I think it's some kind of macho facade they're putting on, but they will drag you down into their pit of bitterness if you let them.

My advice is to go for what you want. If casual sex makes you happy, then go for it, BUT if you want a relationship, want to meet interesting women and maybe fall in love, then go for it!

I'm in a happy relationship and my girlfriend loves me as much as I love her. Even after 8 months we get excited to see each other again and have amazing times together. And I get sex regularly too, so it's the best of both worlds!

 

[lordson]

dont generalize, you really have no idea how old the people on this forum are

 

[Distant Light]

The reason I think most guys are all about sex here? It seems 99% of these losers don't have or have never had sex! LMAo!

I see what your saying, but you can't generalize that there losers and virgin's lol even though it was a funny post, I don't know how you or anybody else here fuvks a girl, but sex is fun and good, and i basically have a sex addiction. I don't just plan on getting my nut off with I'm having sex, I want the girl to feel incredible when were done. It should be a great experience for both of us.

Its a big thrill ride and rush when your with your boys and yall are all just hanging out and playing little games that consist of girls. (Who can get most kisses, we even almost betted to see who can fuvk this 1 girl first and it was like 8 of us.)

Most guys don't have the ideal life and goals as I do, I don't live for girls and I don't live for anyone. I live for Fun, adrenaline, and Experience, o and can't forget my food. This is why I can't bother with having a gf or people who are too emotionally connected to me, because of the lifestyle that I want and seeking. Yea I am building some emotional connection in rapport which can turn out to be fun because I love playing little games.

Stuff that I'm usually into are extreme stuff where its risky, such as riding a bike on a mountain, or maybe canoeing down a heavy river, being in the army and having a whole new experience, drag racing, sneaking around places your not allowed to be in.

Before I realized that I want to start fuvking girls you could say I had the DJ life because I never used to think about any of this and I would get a fair amount of girls, and my soul purpose was to just have fun and live my life for me. It only hit me when I seen my cousin approaching that I realized how much fun it could be to start doing that, and then reading about sh!t that was possible from sites like this it made me want to add this into my life.

Reasons I wanted girls...
1. Sex (I'm love sex and addicted to it)
Main purpose was and always be for sex. I think it was because I seen porn at a very young age. The people I hanged with were always 2 to 5 years older than me so when i was about 11 or 12 I seen breasts for the first time (An these were huge maybe DDs) and watched porn with the crew. When they run trains they would always add me. (I was 13) Then it kind of died down because they were in college now and having a gf wasn't cutting it for me.

2. Have fun with my friends
All of us going around talking to girls (I rather be in the club going about playing games and fun challenges with my friends when it comes to girls, than sitting in a both full of men talking about the hot girls walking by, I actually hate talking about "Who would you fuvk?" with a group of guys when we could be over there talking to them) Right now we even made like a little crew which we add all the guys who are good at getting girls and we just chill together, and we help out our other friends to encourage them. (Now once you see a girl you like you must approach no matter what or your out of the social circle)

3. Great sex
I couldn't stand fuvking one girl. Maybe she they didn't give good head, or there body was good but there face wasn't as good, or maybe I wanted to try a different looking girl. Or maybe a 3some or 4some (I still hope to do those) Tantra, sex board games, etc

4. Adventures
I had realized certain things that weren't as extreme were fun to me, I had added this maybe few months back. But like if i'm bored or can't get any friends to accompany me I'd get a girl to come with me. Or if I feel like having sex after I'm doing whateva I need done, I'd call up all the girls that I know and see who would come. Or maybe if I'm going fishing, invite her to come, or if going somewhere boring like a family cookout invite her. One big goal I made was to go and eat at all the best restaurants and just have a girl accompany me to the restaurants.

But I never really found it logical to learn all this just to get with 1 girl at a time for a long period of time because all that time spent out of the field is going to make it harder when you dump her. But if you had a main girl and then side girls then that wouldn't be too bad. keep in mind I wouldn't mind girls who don't care if i mess with other girls and I've been fuvking her for years because I still got other woman.

 

[ima str8 up pimp]

I feel the same, but I'm in a pissy mood...... These guys should go out and fk as many women as they want, so that they will realize that sex aint shyt.

I agree 100% great post.

Also think about the biblical way, I mean, thats what it is, we follow by it sometimes not even realizing it and its completely fufilling.

I'll tell you right now having basically 4 ****buddys isnt much to me, I have a girlfriend thats absolutley amazing and I love her, I would drop those girls in a heartbeat just for her, but you kno what? she doesnt kno bc shes included as a fb to me, ahh i guess I cant be perfect but you all get the point I'm sure .

 

[ima str8 up pimp]

No offense at all let me just start out by saying. But, here's a question, how many times have you been laid that you think like this? Refer to my last post. I have 3 **** buddies and a girl that just flatout used me for sex even when I semi- sort of starting building emotions for her, she only wanted sex. I really don't see sex as a big thing at all and I definetley would love a strong lasting relationship more, take my girlfriend for example I love her she's absolutely amazing to me, if we didn't do sexual things for long periods of time I wouldn't even mind, because feeling loved and unique is awesome.

Maybe it's just me and guys who think like me, but I hate to generalize.

But I have my own ideas about you already and no offense if you dont get sexual pleasure alot, no offense.

 

[mrRuckus]

I'm in the same boat as you- haven't had a girl for about a year now...pretty much by choice, my standards are fairly substantial.

Ever notice that the guys who don't get laid always have "high standards?"

Are you one of those guys too who when you go to the bar you stand with your 2 guy friends saying to each other "man, there are no hot girls here?" *sip beer* *look around* *talk to nobody*

These days people just want instant gratification without making any effort.

These days? In what period have people not wanted all the good sh1t for free?

reading comprehension > you

Have you noticed the quality of advice is more poorer than before?

Newbs attacking OPs is the name of the game nowadays...it's a wonder why all the good posters have left!

Uh. Is the same guy who makes reading comprehension comments using phrases like "more poorer?" Is that same guy also the one who mangles "it's no wonder" and turns it into one that makes no sense in this context?

Let me guess. It's "ect?" How about "I could care less?" "For intensive purposes?"

 

[mrRuckus]

"sex only universe"? "relations only universe?".

This is silly.

Why can't we just get lots of sex with lots of women until we find one with whom we want to have more?

Is this the same bullsh1t where creationism and evolution collide and no one will budge and say maybe creationism's mechanism is evolution?

 

[mrRuckus]

Well mrRuckus, i'm glad your life is all about sex. I sure hope that helps you lead a very fufilling life.... right.

I never said anything remotely like that, Mr. Inferer Assumption Man. Cute use of sarcasm, by the way. Twice in one post, at that... bravo! See, i can do it too. We should be friends.

And fcuk you for telling/infererererering me that if i choose a life that's unfulfilling to you that I'm supposed to feel bad about it. Sounds like Christian logic to me. "You don't believe in God you must feel so alone and are sad and don't you know you need an old man with a beard in the sky in order for your life to have meaning?!"

 

[itishe]

I've noticed your point Mr. Ruckus.

Anyone who comes here for help finding their one is usually laughed out because they're seen as clingy losers with one-itis.

 

[Soapz]

Different Strokes for different folks my friends.

We're kinda ignoring the biological side of things here. Some people are simply born hornier than others. Its not conditioned, or a reflection of character. Some people simply want more sex! Testosterone!

In my opinion, if you're looking for sex, fine. As long as the girls wants it as well, and you aren't decieving anyone, then everyone is better off.

Don't let society blind you into thinking sex is "wrong and evil." But don't conform to the beliefs on this board either (sex, sex, sex). Do what you want.

Oh, and comments like these is why there are so few people on this board that actually LIKE women: "ROFFL! Did this guy just say fall in love on a DJ forum?" Get a life.

 

[studentisready]

Look, women are running game on men from the time they can talk. Be under no illusions about that. Somebody said that there are two universes on this forum or two polar opposite views. The truth is that the ideal for us all, like so many things in life is straight down the middle. We're men. All we have is our personality and seduction skills. Women can put on make up and sit around and look pretty and game will come to them. So dont buy into their anti seduction propaganda. You dont run game, you'll probably never have sex. I think that 19 year old has a good ideal to fall in love but thats often a lazy chump option to ensure a steady flow of sex on tap regardless of the emotional consequences. He needs to improve himself so that he gives himself OPTIONS so that he has experience of women and can choose the right one to some day fall in love with. If he was dumped by his love in the future as well, he'll be in a far better position to bounce back if he hasnt been emasculated and had his seduction claws clipped.
Hope you meet one of those many wonderful women out there 19 year old. But give yourself some experience of women while your young and goodlooking!

 

[DJ4Life]

im not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing, im not as horny comparing to most guys i know of

for example i went to this church (i am atheist and i was suggested to go: "you should try out a religion") where this pastor tried to teach me about moral value in life blah blah blah, and then for some reason he went on about sex, and told me how teenagers like me (im 17) always look at girls with their boobs and ass and then fantasize about sex with them, and i shouldn't do that

and i was just there shocked and asking the question in my mind: what, guys my age actually fantasize having sex with girls they just met on the street?

lol thanks holy man, now i know what to actually think about when i do see that brunnette in the bookshop :rockon:

i go for girls coz i enjoy the experience and fun of gaming with them, i go for sex with im sexually aroused and in the mood